TYT Interviews continues its special series focusing on our civil liberties and national security with J. Kirk Wiebe- an NSA employee who became a whistleblower. What happened that changed Kirk’s mind about his career in national security? What made him realize that he needed to take a stand against the NSA’s information collection process? The Trailblazer fiasco was a mismanagement in many ways, but did that fiasco help lead us to squander important opportunities to gather information about 9/11? Why was ThinThread, a less costly and more effective program shelved? Is the NSA’s culture ultimately detrimental to the NSA’s stated goals?

Cenk Uygur discusses all this and more with NSA whistleblower J. Kirk Wiebe.