Old School August 9, 2018

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Cenk and Aida on this week’s Old School!

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  2. Way late to comment but whatever. My husband had to put a stop to talking to his mom about politics because of things like this. Like the abortion issue is her number one issue hands down because “morality” and whenever Ben responds with Trump’s affairs her go to is “well would you care if Obama had affairs”

    1- That is not an answer
    2- He didn’t
    3- We didn’t vote for Obama based on morality you did by your own admission vote for Trump based on his. Whether or not we would support Obama being amoral about marriage is not the issue because it wasn’t OUR issue when we voted. It was however YOUR issue when you did so it is a legit question.

    She has still never answered.

  3. I’m blown away by how good this Old School is. I wasn’t sure what to expect, but this was an awesome conversation and I hope they have Aida back.

  4. I wish the next Old School episode was posted by Thursday morning after it has aired on Wednesday, instead of having to wait until Friday or the weekend.

  5. I’m hardcore atheist however Sufism Jainism and Buddhism are the only religions I can semi tolerate haha it’s funny that you discussed Sufism tough because it’s the only religion that I ever actually read a book about haha still against all organized religion adamantly but there are religions that are massively less dangerous than others

    1. @vnomad I know! I always look for it on Thurday cause i miss it live the night before but it usually isnt up until Friday or later

  6. I escort at a clinic every weekend and yep, most anti-choice terrorists (protesters) are men and, IMO all are fake christians! The number of antis and their level of harassment has increased exponentially since tRump was elected! Thanks for your support Aida and LPJ ROCKS!!! Cenk, we love patients’ companions who get in the face of the antis!

  7. Back in the 90s, I attended a bar mitzvah for my son’s best friend. I remember very little about it except for this one thing that has stuck with me for the 27 years since then: I remember when the Rabbi said to the young man, “Don’t ever fear to question your teachings. The truth can handle it. “

  8. Awesome Old School. It was neat to hear Aida and Cenk talk about Tallahassee. I’m a native of Tallahassee and a graduate of Florida State University. Everything they said was pretty spot-on.

  11. I was raised quite religious (parents did missionary work), and it was the abortion issue that finally pushed me away from religion when I had a missed miscarriage. I had to go to an abortion clinic to have a tiny dead body that I had desperately loved removed from my body, and I was absolutely terrified because I knew personally the kind of people who protested at those places, and I knew they wouldn’t care what my story was or why I was there, no matter how Christian I was raised or how dead my baby already was.

    We were well off enough to go to a clinic attached to the hospital where nobody protests, but I still took my dad with me and shadowed him the whole time, paranoid about every stranger who passed us.

    We have rules around here that limit how close protesters can get to the clinics, and there was controversy about recently removing those rules for the downtown clinic that I didn’t have to go to where there are protesters every day, and I blew a gasket I got so angry. Pretty sure I lost some friends and family in my rage. The feeling that these women living through low moments in their stories should just be left alone was overwhelming.

    If abortion services were prohibited, there’s a good chance my living son I had 5 years later would never have been born, so the pro-life argument is just an extra layer bullshit directly over abortion services for me.

    The fact that we have evangelical friends in America who voted for Trump because abortion is the only issue that matters to them is like a constant twisting knife in my heart.

  14. As a fellow Latin American, I am going to have to disagree with Aida on the Haitian part. I am Dominican/Nicaraguan, and I haven’t met a single Latin American (including myself) that considers Haitians to be one of us. Haitians were a French colony–not a Spanish, or Portuguese colony. Thus, they are not ethnically, linguistically, or culturally part of the Ibero-America.

  15. The murders in colombia have escalated to intense campaigns of extermination against black, poor and left activist. he president of the republic is working with negra aguilas to mass murder the opposition, kill the progressives and crush any future the opposition have. PLEASE cover it.

  16. I am guessing Aida is referencing the 5% mixed Haitians as Afro Latino. Haiti is around 90% black and the rest mullato and a small number of white and Arab. But the people who fought to create th e first black republic were black.Since Haiti and Venezuela( including Ecuador Colombian Bolivia ect) were the ones responsible for Liberating most of the western hemisphere, I guess God punished them by making them the worst run counties in this side of world

  17. Cenk—just a bit of perspective from my end. I studied quite a bit of Asian philosophy in college. You should look into Taoism a bit deeper. It emphasizes humanity amongst humans but the philosophy is actually terrible when it comes to the way it’s teaches people to treat the environment.

    I also wanted to make a point about the secularists in Turkey. I think they were somewhat on the right track but went too far. I don’t it would be crazy to argue that they were the reason the fundamentalists were allowed to now gain power. Anytime any extreme version of a belief is allowed, it causes the pendulum to swing in the direction of the other extreme. It’s kind of like the argument about giving unlimited term limits to a leader ( like in China now). Ppl might be okay with the idea since the person in office is someone they are okay with. . But that isn’t permanent and the extreme nature of that law can easily swing in favor of a dictator—which can be the next person that holds that office. Stricting a fair balance is key. Just some food for thought.

  18. Unfortunately,? assimilation is a violent tool of the dominant race to crush and breed out resistance and cultural identity. To make false consciousness on a mass level. Integration not assimilation is the goal.

  19. At around the 14 minute mark, Cenk says no one has ever been so excited for Kentucky Fried Chicken as they were for McDonald’s. Cenk is talking about McDonald’s in Turkey 40 years ago, but this premise needs to be questioned. KFC is kind of an international powerhouse. It would be interesting to poll people in Guadalajara or Beijing and see which franchise means more to them. KFC might be a surprise winner.

  20. Aida is a broken record. literally, every topic when she is on anything comes back to her personal identity.

    1. I think minority women and their strife give us insight to the world and ourselves. I think facts and figures are great, but I also think personal stories like hers are what
      helps put those facts and figures into perspective. I think her perspective—and the perspectives of other minority women—are important and deserve respect. You go Aida!

    2. But that was the topic of conversation here. That’s like saying how can they talk about sex??? when they are discussing a porno.

  23. Just to clarify about the Jewish Sabbath thing. I’m an orthodox jew and it’s not a loophole what he was doing with having his assistant push the buttons. That’s how you do it if it’s necessary to do something on the Sabbath. I realize the concept of not being able to use electricity sounds weird, but I’m just pointing out that it’s not hypocritical or a loophole for Jews. The whole idea of the Sabbath is to not do things the way you normally would to be more aware of everything and unplug from the rush of life. Whether you disagree and think its silly or not is a different point, but just want to clarify.

    1. Yeah, but the concept of not being able to use electricity means not using electricity doesn’t it? It can’t possibly mean that you can still use it if your finger is not the one to touch the button on the elevator. Unplugging from the rush of life would be to actually do things differently, not to still do them. Going to work is still working, using electricity is using electricity. That’s not different.

      I would understand it if an exception were to be made, like an emergency at work or whatever. But this is going beyond that. It’s pretending that you aren’t doing the thing you are not supposed to do while still doing it.

    2. As a secular Jew who was educated through high school in a Jewish private school, I do think it’s silly. The commandment regarding the Sabbath clearly states the prohibitions against “work” apply also to one’s servants and livestock, so having somebody else press the button is against the letter of the commandment. I know the Talmud and its scholars are there to clarify these arcane rules and try to bring modern context, but a lot of it is very arbitrary, which is why it has been vigorously debated for thousands of years with no happy consensus. I don’t have an issue with lights on timers or Shabbat elevators, because at least for these you can argue no work or actions were performed during the Sabbath to initiate their operation. But having other people push buttons for you is clearly a Talmudic loophole, just like hiring people to prepare and serve food a Bar Mitzvah lunch.

  25. This was a really interesting Old School! I like Aida’s perspectives a whole lot, and it’s great to get a more introspective look from her history.

  26. Succession, yes, watched all of it, couldn’t take my eyes off. However, I HATED every single character! Money corrupts.

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