I can’t diagnose Wes from afar but that FB post does display some disorder thought processes and a tenuous grip on reality which can be features of schizophrenia. Please TYT, encourage Wes to get the help he needs.
Private FB group for TYT members? Is there a secret knock?
As a member, I feel more like chopped liver as TYT has expanded. Member hours are edited poorly (although hell of an improvement from last week), we don’t get source links, or comment highlights and their app is all but abandoned.
Michael Wood Jr and Ana had a falling out over,and there was something off about his collection of money at Standing a Rock with Michael Tracy. Just like Jordan, Michael took the argument super public and continued to denigrate and attack TYT, so they cut all ties.
I hope Jordan returns with Cenk learning his lesson to NEVER act on Feminist views. Get Police investigation so ALL OF THIS CAN BE handled in COURT instead of other Journalists from other media posting ur internal issues…..
His firing is perfectly reasonable considering the situation. Regardless of if the accusations levied against Jordan are true or not what he has actually admitted to is gross negligence. He deserved to be fired.
Just to be clear: I put that Facebook post as a reply to Da Progressive Cajun’s question of what happened to Wes — not to spread that nonsense on this video page.
Wes’ rant is mostly insanity and paranoia, sure, but I think that there is some truth mixed in with them. Not the stuff about Turkish spies etc., of course, but it seems to me that Clark also had grievances with TYT and how it is being run, grievances rooted in facts.
Wes Clark is mostly incorrect, like I said. Then again, some of the things he says chime quite well with what we know from other, less paranoid sources.
Anything he says in relation to Russian and Turkish conspiracies is clearly being fuelled by extreme paranoia and possibly mental problems. But his other disagreements with TYT did not stem from this and can’t be so easily dismissed.
I think he was “talking” to God for a while. I think he was evolving for some time. He is back to his “normal” self these days… I could be wrong though :P
I’m 28 and still live at home with my mom…. But I’m also disabled and can’t work….. It sucks… I mean, I love my mom, she’s everything, but you still always wish you could have had typical life experiences… college/uni, living on your own, a job doing something you hopefully love to do…. But that just wasn’t in the cards for me.
Point being, I’m glad Cenk and Steve pushed Ana to move out when she did, she deserved to have that adult experience of living on her own, no matter how much her parents wanted her home. It doesn’t change how much you love them, but sometimes you need your own space.
I’m disabled myself. I know the feeling. I wouldn’t wish my condition on my worst enemy. So many people within this movement have had a positive impact on my life; it just sucks knowing I may never be able to meet them. I, like yourself, cannot work so plane tickets are not in the cards for me. Even if they were, traveling as a wheelchair user is a major PITA, especially flying. The majority of active wheelchair users tend to be paraplegic; I’m a quad.
If you need to talk, reach out to me on social media. It helps to have people to talk to.
Enraging super stupid self-destructive move. Gone, TYT. Been loyal through thick & thin but now aggressively on the side of accusations & allegations are enough culture? No, fuck your individual pogrom & authoritarian pogrom support for accusers. Same as leads to beating, nooses, & Holocaust. Never another dollar [except membership so I can follow you to oppose you & agree & give credit where it’s due], you made a political enemy of me. Might have fractured the movement too.
Horse shit. A person who has been “loyal through thick & thin” at least waits for the party they have supposedly been loyal to answer allegations before throwing them over without bothering to hear them. I’m disgusted with TYT about this SO FAR, but before I’d throw them over, I’ll hear them out. THAT is what even minimal LOYALTY is about.
Aren’t you doing the same thing you are accusing TYT of doing? You are making an assumption on why they took the course of action they did rather than waiting for them to explain their side.
You guys are so stupid. If this was Bill Oreily and Fox we would condemn them for not taking action admist an investigation. Why the double standard? Im inclined to believe Jordan but even his account is messy to say the least.
Finance sucks. I go to a top school that sends 1/4 of its graduates to Wall St and most of them are miserable. The money is not worth it when you’re working a ridiculous amount of hours.
The account of what happened seems pretty damning and even if we go by just what he agreed to he seems like a liability. I’m holding my judgement though, need more information.
We were having a discussion about Jordan on the private facebook page for members and then TYT literally closed the group. Saying some garbage that they are “consolidating member activities”. This is like 1984, when they would wipe out parts of history, first we had WesClarke, then Michael Woods, now Jordan. And NOT A SINGLE DAMN sentence about them?!?!! Have some respect for your members! At least say a damn word about them.
I’d definitely still like to know what the overall problem with Michael Wood was all about at the end, and an update on WesClark / his health would also be appreciated – he was a friend, long time member and contributor. The abrupt, overnight reaction and absolute silence is also what doesn’t stick right with me.
JC is another issue because of the employer/employee relationship and the legal implications. So I understand that one…
Premature statements put your ass on the line…. TYT keeping mum is the best policy, yeah it sucks for you lot who are hardcore needing info, but I think the best sources of info on whats going on are JC and his accuser. Otherwise, there isn’t anything else to know.
Let’s say TYT fired him for multiple reasons, those other reasons could Hurt Jordan in defending himself possibly, conversely, they could also hurt his accuser. The best option is to steer clear, just because they parted ways doesn’t mean they can’t reconnect later down the line. If that is even a possibility, I wish the best for JC, but I wasn’t there and the truth 99% of the time lays somewhere in the middle.
Reminds me of my youth in La Crescenta in the 60’s. The family would pile into the ‘Cuda and hit the road. I’d lay in the back, beneath the curved rear glass, behind my brother stretched out in the back seat. Dad would drive us over the Angeles Crest to the Pear Blossom Hwy to visit the relations in Apple Valley.
Pear Blossom has the “Whoopty-Doos” that run through the desert washes and arroyos.
I would actually catch air while laying in the back of my dad’s Barracuda as we sailed the whoopty-Doos.
Seat belts? We don’ need no stinkin’ seat belts.
Hey Cenk, if you can do like a post game clarification on the Jordan situation that would be really appreciated. I’m really concerned based on everything I’ve been reading in regards to the allegations and the way tyt has handled them. Hopefully a statement from you will clarify matters.
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I can’t diagnose Wes from afar but that FB post does display some disorder thought processes and a tenuous grip on reality which can be features of schizophrenia. Please TYT, encourage Wes to get the help he needs.
Thank God for (past) Lazy!Cenk. ?
Awesome post game! I love these heart warming family stories. Reminds me why I’m a member.
Private FB group for TYT members? Is there a secret knock?
As a member, I feel more like chopped liver as TYT has expanded. Member hours are edited poorly (although hell of an improvement from last week), we don’t get source links, or comment highlights and their app is all but abandoned.
Michael Wood Jr and Ana had a falling out over,and there was something off about his collection of money at Standing a Rock with Michael Tracy. Just like Jordan, Michael took the argument super public and continued to denigrate and attack TYT, so they cut all ties.
wait waitt, what did michael say about TYT? & is it Mike tracy or mike wood that spoke ill of TYT?
also, the new app is coming – they are using the funds from investors to build it.
Love your post games so much. You put the human back in everything. Thanks for the laughs and joy you bring.
I hope Jordan returns with Cenk learning his lesson to NEVER act on Feminist views. Get Police investigation so ALL OF THIS CAN BE handled in COURT instead of other Journalists from other media posting ur internal issues…..
His firing is perfectly reasonable considering the situation. Regardless of if the accusations levied against Jordan are true or not what he has actually admitted to is gross negligence. He deserved to be fired.
i made this comment before Cenk told us the rationale. Everyone was speculation before the previous week where he told us whats up.
Is there a link to an article about what happened to Michael Wood? Im in the dark…Once a dirty cop always a dirty cop?
Pontiac used to be such a good brand. It’s sad that GM chose to discontinue it.
Is there any way to find out how many miles it has right now?
https://m.facebook.com/WesClarkJr/posts/10154782845553715
Proceed with caution… reading this may seriously jeapordize your sanity. Oh my — what happened to you Wes!?!?!
I feel so bad for Cenk right now.
Just to be clear: I put that Facebook post as a reply to Da Progressive Cajun’s question of what happened to Wes — not to spread that nonsense on this video page.
wes has late-onset schizophrenia in my opinion. its rare but does happen.
Wes’ rant is mostly insanity and paranoia, sure, but I think that there is some truth mixed in with them. Not the stuff about Turkish spies etc., of course, but it seems to me that Clark also had grievances with TYT and how it is being run, grievances rooted in facts.
what do you think is correct? wes has late-onset schizophrenia in my opinion, its rare but does happen.
Wes Clark is mostly incorrect, like I said. Then again, some of the things he says chime quite well with what we know from other, less paranoid sources.
but i’m asking which ones in particular?
Anything he says in relation to Russian and Turkish conspiracies is clearly being fuelled by extreme paranoia and possibly mental problems. But his other disagreements with TYT did not stem from this and can’t be so easily dismissed.
you mean about payment? or something else? everything he wrote was nonsense and based on late-onset schizophrenia (my opinion).
and whats with the FORMER TYT Army image? why former?
I’ve left the army and gone AWOL because of this (link has the whole story, with sources):
https://www.reddit.com/r/tytonreddit/comments/74mp3h/the_case_against_tyts_20_million_venture/
Oh my…that FB post…worrisome…Wes, please take care, something isn’t right with you brother.
So I mostly heard what happened with Michael Wood and now Jordan, but what happened with West Clarke?
I think he was “talking” to God for a while. I think he was evolving for some time. He is back to his “normal” self these days… I could be wrong though :P
I’m 28 and still live at home with my mom…. But I’m also disabled and can’t work….. It sucks… I mean, I love my mom, she’s everything, but you still always wish you could have had typical life experiences… college/uni, living on your own, a job doing something you hopefully love to do…. But that just wasn’t in the cards for me.
Point being, I’m glad Cenk and Steve pushed Ana to move out when she did, she deserved to have that adult experience of living on her own, no matter how much her parents wanted her home. It doesn’t change how much you love them, but sometimes you need your own space.
I’m disabled myself. I know the feeling. I wouldn’t wish my condition on my worst enemy. So many people within this movement have had a positive impact on my life; it just sucks knowing I may never be able to meet them. I, like yourself, cannot work so plane tickets are not in the cards for me. Even if they were, traveling as a wheelchair user is a major PITA, especially flying. The majority of active wheelchair users tend to be paraplegic; I’m a quad.
If you need to talk, reach out to me on social media. It helps to have people to talk to.
Enraging super stupid self-destructive move. Gone, TYT. Been loyal through thick & thin but now aggressively on the side of accusations & allegations are enough culture? No, fuck your individual pogrom & authoritarian pogrom support for accusers. Same as leads to beating, nooses, & Holocaust. Never another dollar [except membership so I can follow you to oppose you & agree & give credit where it’s due], you made a political enemy of me. Might have fractured the movement too.
https://medium.com/@jordanchariton/sloppy-journalism-corporate-panic-back-to-what-really-matters-3f4de682afd8 .
Horse shit. A person who has been “loyal through thick & thin” at least waits for the party they have supposedly been loyal to answer allegations before throwing them over without bothering to hear them. I’m disgusted with TYT about this SO FAR, but before I’d throw them over, I’ll hear them out. THAT is what even minimal LOYALTY is about.
Aren’t you doing the same thing you are accusing TYT of doing? You are making an assumption on why they took the course of action they did rather than waiting for them to explain their side.
“never another dollar (except membership dues)”
LOL
You guys are so stupid. If this was Bill Oreily and Fox we would condemn them for not taking action admist an investigation. Why the double standard? Im inclined to believe Jordan but even his account is messy to say the least.
Finance sucks. I go to a top school that sends 1/4 of its graduates to Wall St and most of them are miserable. The money is not worth it when you’re working a ridiculous amount of hours.
The account of what happened seems pretty damning and even if we go by just what he agreed to he seems like a liability. I’m holding my judgement though, need more information.
We were having a discussion about Jordan on the private facebook page for members and then TYT literally closed the group. Saying some garbage that they are “consolidating member activities”. This is like 1984, when they would wipe out parts of history, first we had WesClarke, then Michael Woods, now Jordan. And NOT A SINGLE DAMN sentence about them?!?!! Have some respect for your members! At least say a damn word about them.
I’d definitely still like to know what the overall problem with Michael Wood was all about at the end, and an update on WesClark / his health would also be appreciated – he was a friend, long time member and contributor. The abrupt, overnight reaction and absolute silence is also what doesn’t stick right with me.
JC is another issue because of the employer/employee relationship and the legal implications. So I understand that one…
okay i tried to find this on my own- is there a link to the page? i feel super left out :(
Premature statements put your ass on the line…. TYT keeping mum is the best policy, yeah it sucks for you lot who are hardcore needing info, but I think the best sources of info on whats going on are JC and his accuser. Otherwise, there isn’t anything else to know.
Let’s say TYT fired him for multiple reasons, those other reasons could Hurt Jordan in defending himself possibly, conversely, they could also hurt his accuser. The best option is to steer clear, just because they parted ways doesn’t mean they can’t reconnect later down the line. If that is even a possibility, I wish the best for JC, but I wasn’t there and the truth 99% of the time lays somewhere in the middle.
Reminds me of my youth in La Crescenta in the 60’s. The family would pile into the ‘Cuda and hit the road. I’d lay in the back, beneath the curved rear glass, behind my brother stretched out in the back seat. Dad would drive us over the Angeles Crest to the Pear Blossom Hwy to visit the relations in Apple Valley.
Pear Blossom has the “Whoopty-Doos” that run through the desert washes and arroyos.
I would actually catch air while laying in the back of my dad’s Barracuda as we sailed the whoopty-Doos.
Seat belts? We don’ need no stinkin’ seat belts.
Fair point. Let’s just let things play out then. I’m gonna stay agnostic on this issue until the facts become more clear.
Love whoopty-doos.
Hey Cenk, if you can do like a post game clarification on the Jordan situation that would be really appreciated. I’m really concerned based on everything I’ve been reading in regards to the allegations and the way tyt has handled them. Hopefully a statement from you will clarify matters.
He said in both hours that he can’t legally talk about it right now.
jordan is possibly gonna file a lawsuit against tyt and the intercept.. so yes, lawyers advised them not to comment