Aggressive Progressives August 1, 2018

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Jimmy Dore, Steve Oh, Stef Zamorano & Malcolm Fleschner. Trump’s Russia-gate narrative detracts from important issues. Noam Chomsky discusses Israel’s influence over the U.S. on Democracy Now. Rachel Maddow’s fixation on Russian involvement. Interview with The Nation writer Aaron Maté.

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  1. Sorry but you American Progressives are too naïve. Switzerland is also pushing the Russian narrative and I am suffering the same official scorn since I dare to be a Putin Puppet. I read comments that Israei has the key to the Fed…the people with the key to the Fed are the Trilateral Commission. They put a plan in place in 1974 to take over the American government and change the rules so that the president would never be impeached again. The barriers would come down and corporations would take over the world. I have to remind you not to Greenwash Europe, especially Germany, and don’t confuse Switzerland with a Scandanavian country. We are the home to the Swiss Central Bank, which controls the World Bank and the IMF. They will invest in any fossil fuel project known to man, and they are investing in plastic just in case electric vehicles are put on the market. But we will drive all eV by 2050. BS, that is the financial community talking since they want 30 years ROI. 2040? That gets the Double CK. Even 2030, 2025 or 2023 are all pipe dreams. Look at Mark Blythe’s video when he talks about the video on the Euro and the German automobile racket. They have that set in place and if they went to EV, they would have to lose a little money. Oh my God, I said for a Central Bank to lose money, they can break down my Dore.
    I treat journalists for back pain since they twist themselves into knots trying to make sure everyone knows that Putin is a bad guy.
    And I don’t know how many years for a solution to getting off of oil. We need to invest in local battery factories, since wind and solar need storage to be viable. ou can also build solar panel factories. With the batteries, you can also build EV’s. And we have to start planting hemp since it is a 7X better carbon trap than trees. We are in a climate emergency. I think it is too late and too futile to try to find a political process. Which way to the Hamptons?

    1. HEY JIMMY !!!
      Why don’t you ever plan an East coast trip??
      I’m sure you could sell out venue’s in nyc.
      C’mon man, the flight is a write off for you
      to visit us, not the other way around.

  2. While the Maddow Russia clip was funny, I was hoping for more discussion beyond anti-anti-Russia. I find parts of the discussion like securing our elections to be important, something we should have been doing anyways, but didn’t out of laziness/economics.

    I’m sure the Trump/Russia thing is 90% about money, like everything else in Trump world.

    Malcolm always kills me with the deadpan.

  4. I watched this show the other day and it has been bothering me. The Manchurian Candidate is a story about a member of a U.S. political family being brain washed to kill for Russia. That does not describe Trump! However that idiot Kyle Kulinski is not a voice that deserves credibility. With his using the fuck and shit words in his tirade, he exposes himself as a immature nut.
    Now, when discussing Trump and his ties to Russia, a complete analysis would have to include a reflection of Rex Tillerson and the trillions of dollars lost in a deal due to the timely actions of congress. To say Trump merely walked back the sanctions on Russia is a statement of propaganda spit out by these people. Also there is the issue of almost all of the men on Trump’s campaign rubbing elbows with Putin. Then there is the millions of dollars “loaned” to Trump by the Russians. Not to mention the secret meeting with Putin.
    Cenk believes Trump laundered money for his friends in Russia. If that is the case, they have him over the proverbial barrel. When ones enemies has incriminating evidence on another, they own that person.
    This episode reveals the half baked information Jimmy Dork and Steve Oh oh are willing to spew. I used to respect the information they provided, not any more.

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  6. the russia stuff IS important and worth covering. other countries, like israel and saudi arabia, also have undue influence on our government…so do koch brothers and other american oligarchs. most important thing that not enough people in msm talk about is the fact that we need paper ballots and an auditable voting process, to get rid of voter suppression, and getting rid of partisan gerrmandering. we need democracy. i agree that hearing nothing but “russia, russia, russia” is bad journalism…but so is nothing but complaining about msm coverage of russia. trump is guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors of some kind, lets impeach the bastard! and lets not start using right wing talking points against ourselves :)

  7. Kyle has a good point. And considering the U.S. has installed puppet regimes on every continent, we should know how it works lmao. When we install Yeltsin, back a coup in Libya, Venezuela, Nicaragua, or install someone in Iran (et cetera et cetera) they were skewered the moment they thought about doing anything Trump has done to Russia.

  8. you misrepresented DemocracyNow!
    they do great coverage and try to cover the small legit pieces of the russia stuff

  9. JIMMY!
    I died laughing when he made the “over 10% of the users say it their favorite show” comment

  11. My only problem with the Russia discussion is NO ONE THINKS THAT TRUMP IS A MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE!!! Did he collude with Russia, or his campaign collude with Russia so that HRC wouldn’t win the election, probably though I doubt we will ever truly know, but that he was a Russian plant, NO ONE HAS EVER SAID THAT, EXCEPT these guys. Does Trump’s commentary about our intelligence and his treatment of our allies make Russia stronger? Probably, does the not having the war games with South Korea benefit Russia, as well as North Korea, probably due to the fact while China feeds the North Korean people and supports their government, Russian influence also keeps the North alive as well. Also a trade war with Canada/Mexico/Europe and China benefits Russia. Anyway that is my opinion about their “evidence” that Trump isn’t a Manchurian candidate, which no one who is sane would have said anyway.

  13. I honestly don’t think the main show does a bad job regarding the Russian situation. They present the revelations, while making it very clear that they are anti-war, anti-escalation, and making clear what is and is not speculation/opinion (I shouldn’t have to mention that MSM is obviously using this for distraction/ratings). The road that AP and Kyle are taking with basically just finger wagging is kinda questionable, which is sad since I love them both. Idk. Just my thoughts.

    1. For what it’s worth, you’re definitely not alone in thinking this. I completely agree with you. Jimmy’s ‘coverage’ of the various Russia issues focuses more on pointless equivocations/rants and not the facts coming out on the matter. I think he’s hung up his cross on his position re: this issue and his unwillingness to admit error in the face of changing circumstances and information (probably because doing so will jeopardize his fan support, financially or otherwise) has massively impaired his judgment.

      1. Yea. I don’t necessarily think Jimmy would revolve his ideas around financial situations, but I do kinda think he’s gone too far down the rabbit hole to come out as nuanced. Now this is speculation, but I definitely think Steve is done talking about it. He usually stays fairly out of the conversation and resorts to joking about it or whatnot. I think he either disagrees with Jimmy to an extent or he just straight up doesn’t want to talk about it anymore. But I could be wrong. Idk.

        1. Sorry but I think the main show has drunk the kool-aid. Sure, Trump has money from Russian banks. But he also set up 8 companies with Saudi Arabia during the primary race! Every politician is corrupt. Theresa May and Nancy Pelosi have husbands on the boards of weapons companies. The DNC primaries were a vast money laundering campaign for the Clinton Foundation. It says so in the fucking e-mails. It says so in the fucking e-mails. Did you ever read the fucking e-mails? That should be the story. I have to treat journalists in Switzerland for back pain since they tie themselves in a knot trying to tie Russia into every story they right.

    2. How about video clips that talk about things like the BRICS coalition? I am an un-techy senior, but REALLY want to learn how to do video info clips even though I HATE even having my picture taken. I am tired of NOT hearing about the real goals of our lying establishment, and hearing about ‘stupid’ politicians when they are simply LYING GREEDY BASTARDS who have goals OTHER than what they lie to us about. And I DO mean both parties, because we had a cabal of sociopaths who ramped up their scamming and greed back in the 70s. I would love to talk about The Powell Memo, the truth about federal money, and things like the BRICS coalition and jury nullification and anything else we all should know about, imo.

      For example: BRICS is why our establishment has planned the anti-Russia stuff for YEARS (and floated several things, but nothing got traction until the ‘interfered with the election’ lie); destroying Yemen and making the TPP and doing anti-China crap and chaotic tariffs are ALL related to our anti-Russia propaganda! Our lying establishment sociopaths play the long game, know trends and plan their lies to the public far ahead. https://whatifitoldyouthis.blogspot.com/2018/07/lets-take-brief-look-at-what-has-been.html

  14. This show has become anti-Russia-media-hysteria hysteria. I want to watch a news show that reports on something other than how Russia hacking is so important or how it isn’t important at all.

  16. Thanks for a great show. I thought I was the only one who thought this Russian interference with the election is a lot of BS.

    I was on Facebook and internet media almost constantly during the primaries and elections and the only foreign interference I saw was from a bunch of Macedonian teenagers looking to make a little spending money.

    So if someone out there can please SHOW us some of those supposed Russian ads and Facebook pages, I’d like to see them. All I’ve heard are allegations of Russian interference, but nothing of substance to back up these claims.

    So again, SHOW US THOSE RUSSIAN ADS AND FACEBOOK PAGES so we can see what the NSA and other government intelligence agencies are talking about!

    And keep up your good work!

  17. @Steve Oh

    Is there any way you can blacklist PraegerU from being one of TYTs advertisers on youtube? Their videos are over five minutes long, and start off by attacking the viewer, encouraging them to skip the ad. It looks like a campaign to deny TYT advertising revenue.

  19. I like What Kyle has to say, but he’s a bit too Rush Limbaugh-like. I mean if that what works for him, great. That cadence reminds me of being in my Grandparent’s house at lunch

  21. You’re making the mistake of projection Jimmy. You would hide your real intentions better because you’re smart. Trump is an IDIOT!
    I too am just here for AP. I wish they’d make this bi-weekly, or tri-weekly. And I really resent we have to wait 24-48 hours to watch. I have a life, I can’t watch live. The main show is up within hours.
    I wish they’d have Brooke as the co-anchor on the mainshow. Ana drives me so nuts.

    2. And to add to what softrun said, if you find you can’t watch the Super Chat Saturday live, it is available on patreon anytime you’d like, subscription is 5$ for audio or 10$ for video per month. It amounts to say about $1.50 per hour of content (though maybe 20% of it gets converted into free videos on his youtube channel, but that should be seen as a good thing). So if you love Jimmy that much, this is a good way to get a lot more Jimmy. My life is less busy than yours I’m guessing, and I have a hard time consuming all the content he generates.
      And there is content compatible with Jimmy’s. I sometimes watch Redacted Tonight, or Richard Wolff’s video podcasts for a more economic slant (plus I pay on Patreon for the extra 30 minutes per week, I have a backlog of 2 months right now). Bernie Sanders lately has been creating a lot more content on his youtube channel, at 2-3 minutes a pop.

  23. Online voting is silly and bad, for all the obvious reasons that Steve mentioned. The future is voting by mail. Washington does it.

    This whole voting in person is unnecessary. Voting by mail allows people to research the internet with the ballot in hand. It’s super convenient and uses our already-secure architecture of the postal system.

  24. The main show is pushing Russia narrative all the time, I was thinking this watching the whole AG, junk also uses the phrase, so elections matter, so his job, and Hannah said she sick of the McCarthy bullshit and she’s tired of hearing the word Neo liberal so when we are in those differences out that’ll be fine TYT with your 95 shows

  26. I fucking love AP! Only reason I’m still a member is AP, FPG & Reporting In. I also reduced my membership to the $4.99 option & will be splitting my savings between the Jimmy Dore show & Jordan Chariton/Status Coup. Main Show has Russia/Trump derangement which is making them kind of pro-war which I can’t stand. I agree with everyone here saying we need more AP, should be at least two a week. Maybe Stef could host one, she’s awesome & we never hear from her enough.

      1. lol you’re so sweet. Go back & watch the main show coverage of Donnie Tiny Hands & Un’s meeting. Ana lost her shit & couldn’t quit saying that DTH was giving away EVERYTHING for NOTHING in regards to stopping the South Korean/US war games in return for North Korea scaling back their nuclear program. I would say losing your mind over that is kind of pro-war, but opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.

        1. equating Ana’s lack of confidence in Trumps meeting with KJU (and that both Russia and China want those SK/USA “war games to stop”), to that of “TYT is war mongering” is so narrow minded you may as well be blind. Nice false equivalency you got there… shame if something were to happen to it

          1. I never said TYT is warmongering, I said their Trump/Russia derangement has made them KIND OF PRO WAR. & Ana didn’t just express a lack of confidence she lost her shit. Go back & watch if you don’t believe me. I know it’s hard to see with your head in the sand but try.
            & was that last bit some weakass attempt to be funny or do you normally make pseudo-threatening statements to people you disagree with?

          2. Also Trauma65, what does Russia & China wanting the US to stop playing war games so close to their borders have to do with anything? The US would consider it an act of war if Russia or China or anyone else played war games that close to our borders. Does the fact that Russia & China want something make that something evil or bad or wrong? I think your xenophobia is showing.

          3. @Trauma65 – Thank you for saying this. Good to see some appreciation for honest characterization in the comments.

        2. I think that had a lot to do with Donnie giving away joint exercises, etc. away for nothing than a handshake and a nod. Satellite photos show continuing as normal.. Ana was justifiably pissed off.
          How is pointing this out “pro-war?”

      2. gibsonsg is right. They really were pushing some pro-war stuff. Not all they were pushing, but it was there

          1. Its not that they were “pro war” its that they accepted the narrative of the washington consensus which is to demand a 70/30 deal in their favour, no matter how seriously they wronged the other party and how indefensible and wrong their current imperialist position is. It is the point of tyt to be revolutionary in their stance against the elite, not validate their grotesque ideas.

    2. Me too. Been keeping my membership just for AP, but I didn’t know they had a $4.99 option. Thanks for the info. If you want more Stef, don’t forget to check out Super Chat Saturday on Jimmy’s Youtube channel. It’s usually 2-3 hours long, starting at 2:00 pm Pacific time. The video link appears about 20 min before the hour:

      https://www.youtube.com/user/TYTComedy/videos

      1. I didn’t know either until another member told me, TYT has never been good at getting info out to their members.
        I’m aware of Super Chat Saturday but good looking out! It feels like I am always busy on Saturdays & never get to catch it, guess I am going to have to make more of an effort now that I am supporting them monetarily lol.

  27. Just wanted to say while I’m downloading the show….

    Jimmy was great hosting RTs Debate week last week. Go check it out on Youtube. It’s kinda shocking to see Jimmy present professionally and my brain did a double take. RT is really slick…..TYT could learn a thing or two, and it probably wouldn’t be that expensive to mimic some of the set up.

    Jimmy for president.

    Off to watch the show.

      1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_network)

        I dunno if you’re being sarcastic, but it’s a big Russian international television network funded by the Russian government to bring “the Russian view on global news.”

        Check out the “Response” section of the wiki article if you don’t already know some of the background on it. Kind of funny Jimmy gets so worked up about the integrity issues of msnbc when he seemingly has no similar problems with RT.

        1. I made a similar comment which has now been removed. So much for ‘truth to power’. Unless of course it hits too close to home.

          TYT will quickly lose members if this continues.

  28. This panel is absolutely the best ever; my favorite TYTers. Yep, lots of members are only members because of Aggressive Progressives (including me). We know that Trump is a stupid, racist thug and don’t need to hear it everyday on the main show. I can get that on MSNBC and CNN. Can we have Aggressive Progressives 5 times a week? Please!!!!

    1. I’d still rather get my news from TYT than CNN/MSNBC/etc. At least they’re honest about their point of view rather than the bullshit “neutrality” of the others.

  29. The provisional ballets were a big deal in the Connor Lamb election in Pennsylvania, The election was so close everyone was waiting for them to be counted to find out who won, they counted them on the same night for that reason which is very rare.

  31. Yes, Malcolm I’m one of the members who only likes AP and Friday’s PG with the 3 Amigos. Main Show is too much Trump is a moron and voter shaming Trump votes – main reason I joined the channel was to get away from that) Aaron Mate is the best, love to see more of him as he always speaks truth to power like the panel.

    I’ll put in my request again — members would LOVE to have AP more than 1 a week, can’t we interchange the different hosts and have it on the channel maybe Tuesdays & Thursdays to start. Bet membership cancellations and complaints would go down.

    1. This panel is absolutely the best ever; my favorite TYTers. Yep, lots of members are only members because of Aggressive Progressives (including me). We know that Trump is a stupid, racist thug and don’t need to hear it everyday on the main show. I can get that on MSNBC and CNN. Can we have Aggressive Progressives 5 times a week? Please!!!!

      1. I get the complaints about the main show spending too much time on the Russia thing because it takes time away from more important issues they could be covering. But Isn’t AP doing the same thing by spending so much time on why Russia is a waste of time? Most of this show was about the anti-Russiagate narrative, and that too is a waste of time that could have been better spent on real progressive issues. Just as you say it’s a given that Trump is a stupid, racist thug so we don’t need to be hit over the head with it, the same is true about Russiagate being mindless hysteria – so we don’t need to be hit over the head with that either. I don’t want AP to become the mirror image of what it opposes.

        (And for the record, I would add Old School to the list of reasons to be a member.)

        1. My thoughts exactly! I am totally fine with the fact that AP disagrees with the main show about the Russian narrative, but we only get AP once a week (and I love it) so it is saddening when the entire show is spent on Russia. It’s hard to complain that the Russia thing is a distraction while allowing it to distract you. Also, I’ve never hear of Kyle Kulinski but from the clips they showed here I’m not a huge fan, he just feels like a left version of Alex Jones…

          1. I am all for an objective and fact-based discussion of Russia, and welcome Aaron Mate’s sober insights. The problem I see is that people on both sides of the issue are basically jaded by how it relates to Hillary Clinton. If you are a Hillary supporter, you desperately want to believe that Russia was responsible for her losing the election so you can hang on to the silly idea that she was an awesome candidate. If you hate Hillary because of what went down in the primaries, you desperately want to believe that Russia had no role in her defeat. People in both camps tend to only focus on the evidence that points to their own interpretation and minimize all else. If this was about an election between Elizabeth Warren and Marco Rubio I doubt the takes would be the same. And I know Jimmy would come at this differently if it had been Bernie who lost to Trump under the same circumstances and with the same evidence. Jimmy is a real talent and vital progressive voice, but an objective observer he is not. He should be a regular on Totally True or Totally Bullshit because he doesn’t do nuance.

          2. This is the best thing about TYT: they let Jimmy promote a different point of view than Ana and Cenk. None of the other news agencies allow any type of dissent, and nothing at all that would lead to the loss of sponsors.
            I still get my news mostly from the main show because they at least tell it as they see it. My major beef with TYT is they all seem to hate on Sam Harris; I think the dude’s fucking brilliant when it comes to religion, and is right on.

            1. You mean the Sam Harris who thinks all religions are bad but Islam is suuuuuuuuuuper bad and inherently evil. I just finished rereading The End of Faith recently and boy is he a verbose asshole.

              It’s cringeworthy enough to hear that shit from Bill Maher, its almost worse hearing the same argument from Harris only in dressed up language.

    2. Yeah… I often forget how smart that guy is until I listen to one of his interviews. He’s very insightful and doesn’t coat anything in bullshit, he tells it as he sees it.

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