Aggressive Progressives: May 22, 2018

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Ron Placone, Dissection of the “Better Deal” presented by the Democrats, Repeal of parts of Dodd Frank & the current bipartisan initiatives. Many cities across the country have water in as bad or worse condition as Flint Michigan. Texas run-off election features an underdog Democratic candidate. Protesters are facing stricter and more intense punitive measures in many western states for protesting. The Georgia primary. 72% of Democrats say opposing Trump is not enough and want Congressional candidates to push progressive agenda. Supreme Court ruling against allowing workers filing class-action lawsuits, including about over-time and gender pay disparities. Louisiana Senate restoring voting rights to ex-convicts.

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  1. Finally someone mentions the supreme court decision! As someone who has been screwed out of deserved pay, this decision is unconsciousable, and unamerican! The Supreme Court is no longer just pro-corporate, it has gone pro-corporate exploitation.

  2. I’m kicking myself right now because the only reason I signed up for TYT membership was so I could get the whole Aggressive Progressive show because I love Jimmy & Steph. And I paid for the whole year up front… ?

    1. Jimmy is sick, normally he does the show, doesn’t have a rotating selection of hosts like the main show

      1. we were told he is in Norway… plus they actually did the show I watched late and got kicked off when it ended as usual

    3. Same here. I sent an email to tyt. No response. I sent a tweet to Cenk, Steve Oh who produces it, Jimmy, Ron and Graham asking what the reason is that it takes 2+ days to post the AP. No response either. If it’s not up tonight, I am going to cancel my subscription.

    1. it is now the 30th… wheres the show? so members have to watch it live or else not at all/ a week late is pretty worthless to me and something thats in the beginning of the week loses meaning when you can’t see it till Friday

      cmon!

  4. oh , nobody will ever read this and I just got kicked off the newest stream and now won’t be Able to watch it till Thursday as usual… lame

  5. The content on this show is amazing! It’s honestly better the the TYT main show is currently, I don’t think the main show even mentioned anything on the contaminated water in other cities and zip codes outside of Flint. But please, for the love of all the is holy (lmaoo), please, please, please, stop repeating yourself. Stop repeating yourself, stop repeating yourself, stop repeating yourself, stop repeating yourself. We aren’t stupid, we heard you the first time, we aren’t children who need things repeating to us for emphasis or clarity…..please, stop repeating yourself. The content of this show is enough to stand on its on, we don’t need gimmicks….

  6. I would not have used repetition for that story. But for a first time, he kept the show going with a progressive story for each segment. Are you doing a tour of a part of the country soon, Ron? I think that you are going to Hammerton and Anville, but I think my short-term memory is starting to go.
    The Flint water crisis is starting to trigger me, since I can see Swiss corporate influence behind the problem. Yes, Nestlé pays $400/year and gets water rights, then they put said water into a plastic bottle. They also put coffee into plastic containers. Are you seeing a pattern here? We used to get water out of a tap when I was small. Actually, I am still small. I meant when I was young. I researched the Earthship concept, and they have said many times that you could use a rainwater collection system and provide water that way. This is happening in over 269 zip codes? Of course it is, and it is not only lead. There are also PFO’s from Dupont Teflon. But DuPont is also the one’s that got the gummint to outlaw hemp. My Daddy said that when he was a kid in 1910’s and 1920’s Texas, the farmers were PISSED that they had to plant hemp. We need to plant hemp and use it to replace plastic.
    I would like to make a comment about being Aggressive. I made the same comment to Kyle about his story of Chelsea Manning standing on the edge of a building. She needs help, and she seems to have called out for help since she is no longer in solitary. But that triggered me. I was on a comment chat about her helicopter video in Iraq, when someone said that he was the soldier that went to the van and pulled out the kids. He went to the base and lost his ability to be a soldier. He has not functioned well since, and has PTSD. I wrote a comment to Kyle about that post since I am sick of Progressive Passive Porn. You show stuff, you talk about it and then you move on. For how long? When is someone going to finally do something? We have Medea Benjamin, Chelsea Manning, Ray McGovern, and…….?
    I am finally going to start the Green Revolution that I have talked about for years. You can look on Windyday.ch ans we will have some videos out soon. I will be starting something in Europe, anyone can start the same thing in Africa, South or even North America, Australia. I am getting information from Australis now since they are transfoming their electrical grid. Don’t count on Big Oil, Big Auto nor Big Finance to start anything. We need to go with Big People. Even with little pocketbooks, with enough Big People, it can work.

  8. This was just awful. I couldn’t make it past the ten minute mark. God almighty.

    If at least Steve Oh isn’t available, just don’t do the show at all.

  9. His repetition made me stop the show around the Flint water story, 26 min in, couldn’t take it anymore.
    Do you need to be high or what to tolerate that annoying repetition and rephrasing as if I’m a 3 year old and I won’t understand otherwise.
    First time I turned off one of the TYT political shows, I’ve seen Ron on other things, never annoyed me, but this made me want to throw my laptop out the window

  10. Great job Ron! Loved the show. No one else has ever hosted Aggressive Progressives solo. You had to carry an hour and half by yourself. You did great. Watched it twice. You should get your own show on TYT.

  11. I really don’t understand the judgement against class action lawsuits. We need to do something or we’ll loose all our rights.

    1. I haven’t read it, nor do I remember Opening Arguments talking about it, however to my understanding the way Class Action Lawsuits work is that you have to have 1 person who is a common representative of all the other people of an affected class.

      I.E. the dumbass google employee who wrote conservative memos about how he was being oppressed, is not indicative of all other white employees oppressed by Google. Even if Google was just systematically firing all the white people and hiring non whites, that guy would still not be a valid representation because of his memos and the way he went about things. They would pick someone less controversial who is more like the other people in the class.

      It’s something along the lines of they have to have more in common than they do apart.

      So if you do something like overtime class action lawsuit specifically the damages would be awarded differently. Now sometimes this is a way for courts to dismiss a class action lawsuit, however the law is a bit murky and some courts would say that a class action lawsuit would be inappropriate because the amount of damages differ, like football players in a college for example doing a class action for wages. Now on the other hand there is a court that is taking up a class action lawsuit of wages based on the 4 cents an hour slave labor practices in a private prison, and even though the damages per person would be individualized, it would not be hard to do a basic algorithm and award the people involved in the suit. I mean if they get 4 cents an hour divide total pay by 4, and then multiply by the new wages and boom problem solved.

      So overtime class action lawsuits are a bit murky and prone to failure from the get go.

      But hopefully Opening Arguments will cover it and do a better more deep dive, and actually go on about if this sets actual precedent. I was cooking and my wife was being erratic while I listened to the last episode so maybe they covered it and I just didn’t hear because life and podcasts don’t always mix.

    2. What we REALLY need is for law makers to make contracts with mandatory arbitration clauses over overtime illegal, and unenforceable and more importantly we need the consumer protection agency bolstered with a new department that be contacted and can do for workers like they did for banks.

      1. It’s bring on the blue tsunami. Let’s get this shit done, then do a universal income, because the real threat is on the horizon.

  12. I really hope we get Jimmy & Stef back next week. This show has been *progressively* worse to watch since Jimmy’s absence and it’s one we all very much look forward to!

    Also does Ron have like an English degree or something? Soo many metaphors! lol

  14. Great show Ron from start to finish. I am glad you were willing to fly solo. You covered important topics. Have a good tour.

  15. When one of the people does NOT show up for a ménage à trois, there’s still a pair, and if one of that pair is YOU, you still get laid. When TWO fail to show up, and the only one who does is YOU, that’s just masturbation.

    This week’s episode… no. Just no. Normally I like Ron, but I didn’t sign up to watch him beat off. I’ll try again next week, and see if they can get more than one person to show up.

  16. I HATE Nancy Pelosi & Chuck Schumer. I HATE these fuckers!
    SO disingenuous. SO phony! SO fake!
    I HATE these Democrats!! HATE ’em!!!

    We gotta dislodge these sandbaggers once & for all.
    Phony ass “Better Deal”. CRUSH these phonies!
    Can’t WAIT for Bernie to take over in 2020.
    Bernie’s building his bench. Whoever can’t get in for 2018 will DAMN sure get in for 2020.
    Try again Paula Jean Swearengin. Don’t give up. These fakes are FINISHED.

    John Lucas

  18. Well done Ron difficult to be a one man show but you hit the nail on the head, I especially enjoyed the repetition of important point/subject during each segment.

  19. oooh new aggressive progressives episode! can’t wait to hear jimmy dore’s commentary on TYT having a CNN anchor on their panel last friday. oh…. nevermind. (still love you ron!)

  20. Great job flying solo, Ron !!!

    I liked your poetic use of repetition … forces me to actually stop and think about what you are saying …

    And while I liked the “And then there was one … ” theme for the show, many other good, bad, and ugly ones come to mind, for example:

    “First came Bronson … and then came Placone … ”

    “Thus spake Zarathustra, and also spoke Placone … (Ubermenches ? You decide …) ”

    etc. …

    Gotta Love the Aggressive Progressives …

  21. If you’re going to have ‘one host,’ how about an entire show of SHITTY BIRTHDAYS with Malcolm however-you-say-his-last name (haha)… THAT would be great and fun and educational and inspiring!

  22. Ron good job yes he repeats because most people mind is short when learning you repeat things over & over.
    Yes Dr. Barber is great hope The Poor People Campain should be talk about everyday on TYT not Trump .Ron is talking about all our right to protest is being taken away by those state that are still in a yes on slavery to people of Color & Women.

  23. loved it. the repetition was like being stabbed with the truth. great way to drive home just how horrible the reality is

  24. I like the voting rights issue, especially considering how people were screwed in the primaries 2 years ago. But God damn, are the Democrats like Pelosi bad at selling the issue. It’s a fringe issue but an important one. She doesn’t make it about patriotism, about being American! She’s a horrible speaker who doesn’t believe in what she’s saying.

    Not a fan of the excessive repetition. I’d even rather have had Has on as a secondary to break it up. Made it 30 mins. Might revisit later.

  25. Ron, LOVE you hosting! But, gotta agree with some saying there should be 2 hosts on AP.
    Maybe you and Malcolm? That would make a good balance!

    Otherwise, Great job!

  26. Not to fussed by Ron hosting solo this week, I like Ron it’s more just having only one voice that sucks. Just running out my membership due to the main show’s Trump coverage will be back when he is done.
    I’d like to have a membership for more than just one or two shows.

    1. Where is Cenk on days like this?

      Cenk should have stepped up and co-hosted the show. Frankly, I think it’s weird that Cenk almost never makes appearances on AP, but on a day like today Cenk should have stepped up to the plate. I don’t blame Ron. His comfort zone is playing second banana and there’s nothing wrong with that.

  28. Fuck the people who are complaing. Ron, you might have to only emphasize something once, not 4 times in a row. But the repeating everything before and after the breaks, that’s a TYT thing that Ron has to do. Maybe it should stop. Members watch the whole thing through or recordings like I do. We don’t need to be reminded about your Southeast Tour or Jimmy’s balls every time. Do it before and after the show and let the editors glue them on for the short segments dissected out for the main TYT channel.
    Ron you were awesome but honestly after reading the reviews before hand I almost did not watch. I lasted the whole way. I love Get Your News On With Ron and have to race to stop you from repeating the long plug each time.l. It is a real drag, when riding my bike, when I listen to all my downloads and have to listen to your plug every single time. You are talented and hanging with Lee Camp is starting to rub off on you in a good way. All the best.

    1. Fuck the people who are complaining about people who are “complaing” (sic).

      You ever watch a game where one team doesn’t show up? Does the team that DID show up play a pretend game anyway against no one? Of course not, because that would be stupid, pointless, and awful to watch. It would have been better to just cancel the game, and that’s what should have happened here. You need two people, otherwise it’s just a rant.

    2. how about fuck the people that set him up like this – TYT HAS TO HAVE A SHOW now that they have a cable channel and obviously don’t care enough about this one to bring on their usual sidekicks – where were Malcolm and Steve when you actually need them – the whole setup for this show makes a solo show look horrific – it’s setup as a multi-person show … why did they do this to Ron?

      like I’ve said – they don’t give a rat’s ass about the the members now that they’re a big time pretend cable channel ;-)

      1. Or they feel like they need a show each week ’cause when they didn’t for various reasons, members would bitch about missing the show and threaten to cancel their membership. People are going to complain no matter what they do.

      2. But I agree– they’re setting any substitute host up for failure by making them do this type of show solo.

  29. Dang, Ron went from being Les Nessman the last two weeks to Johnny Feaver this week!
    lol for WKRP

  30. Oh my god, stop with this Ron Placone tire biting shit. It’s bad enough when he’s bobble heading someone else. Doing a show by himself? Unacceptable. This is two weeks in a row there’s been no Agressive Progressives, enough of this. I’d rather watch Steph solo than fucking Ron.

    1. great job carrying the show! they shoulda brought Graham on here with you (tho I know i say this a lot)

  35. Love the much needed vitriol Ron.

    I have a question for you and for more progressive media generally. Why aren’t more people covering the rebirth of MLK’s radical “The Poor People’s Campaign” and the 40 days of action?

    Dr. Barber could be the great hope for this country and could shape a movement which is non-partisan, and profound in its scope and vision. I know Dor did cover it on AP several weeks ago but you would think it would be everywhere in the Progressive media.

    1. I agree. It doesn’t seem to be covered at all on TYT main show and it’s tangentially mentioned on TJD show.

  37. Good job Ron! I’m sure it wasn’t easy to go solo. Could ease up on the Department of Redundancy Department – not a criticism, just an observation. Love you Ron!

    Hope you are recovering well Jimmy; healing takes time so easy does it. Looking fwd to seeing you and Stef back soon!

    -Just an old heartbroke hippy Russian stooge

    1. Agree with the redundancy comments coopermellen. This show works best with more than one host. Any chance Nomiki or Emma could fill in as guest hosts sometime? They’re both aggressive progressives!

  39. I think Nancy Pelosi has had too many nose jobs that her nose refuses to grow when she’s blatantly lying. Gippetto come fix your ventriloquist doll please.

  40. Starting to worry about Jimmy… Sounds like the operation may not have gone smoothly, or recovery has taken longer than they thought it would. I hope there are no serious complications, and that full recovery happens soon.

    We love you, Jimmy! Sending you strong vibes for health and help. Thank you, Ron, for holding the fort.

      1. @softrun I think he’s toughing it out for the sake of the fans & the importance of the news.
        I saw the last Saturday Solidchat & that guy was in PAIN. He toughed it out but he’s hurting bad.
        That’s why Stef’s not here. She’s tending to her man Jimmy.

        He needed a break anyway though because he has been DRIVING & DRIVING nonstop ever since the Election was over. He just needs a little time to collect himself.
        The forced-upon rest will most likely make him even stronger a commentator on this madness we’re dealing with.

        John Lucas

        1. @johnlucas, yep I agree he is definitely still feeling it; I saw that solidchat, too. I’m glad he’s getting the rest!

  41. So we were promised that Jimmy would be back this week.

    He is making his own shows. I get that it’s probably easier for him to make his own shows… but come on guys…

    Seems more likely by the minute that Jimmy won’t come back.

    I knew it.

        1. @Exystence Well it’s not like there isn’t precedence for this kind of worry.
          Many people wondered why all of a sudden Wes Clark Jr. turned on Cenk & TYT last year after being with them since almost the beginning.
          But we could all chalk that up to mental illness on Wes’ part.

          What REALLY made you worry was when Jordan was suddenly ousted due to that manufactured rape scandal.
          On November 15, 2017, he did an episode of Reporting In with Dave Koller.
          On November 16, 2017, The Huffington Post posts that slanderous libelous rape report written by Jordan-enemy Christian Chiakulas.
          On November 17, 2017, TYT fires Jordan Chariton despite Cenk saying they would do an investigation before making a decision.

          It was too convenient. Jordan was ruffling feathers with his reporting. VERY powerful people & powerful interests he was exposing. With Jordan gone, TYT won’t have to worry about pressure from the Establishment.
          Notice no more reports about Flint & other contaminated water. No more reports about Standing Rock Sioux.
          No more reports about revolutionary protests risking arrest in St. Louis, Missouri live on the ground.

          Between that November of 2017 & January of 2018, many of The Watchers On The Wall, the crowdfunded TYT Politics/Investigates reporters & commentators had quietly exited. One is even suing TYT for racial discrimination (Andrew Jerell Jones).
          Then cussing is eliminated or at least curtailed on the show. Then actual commercials show up inside of paid subscriber member content. Then the whole channel is delivered over to YouTube TV with little regards for the members’ sentiments right as CNN HLN’s Carol Costello brings that bland mainstream media obtuseness to the main show on May 18th.

          You think people don’t have a right to worry? You think all of these events doesn’t merit some kind of concerned speculation? You think they can’t speculate on conspiracies when faced with these odd shifts & changes?

          For this one, Jimmy Dore is simply too pained to go on the show.
          His wife Stef Zamorano is tending to her husband. So Ron Placone had to do this show alone (that rhymes!).
          No conspiracy here this time but you can’t say that people shouldn’t be worried with how TYT’s been acting lately.

          John Lucas

          1. None of that made any sense at all and I don’t even know what conclusion you are even trying to make.

  42. I think you hit on the cornerstone of equality. By having prisoners in a position to be paid a dollar a day, you now have diminished the labor value of non prisoners. Any time we allow a group of people to be treated as second class citizens, we suffer as a whole. Unfortunately, it causes us to fight songs eachother while the benefit of every efficiency and corner cut goes directly up.

  43. I tapped out 22 min in, they weren’t kidding about the repetition. 228 million that was as far as I could make it. To be fair I can’t stand it when any show repeats itself.

    1. Me too, worst guest host ever. I couldn’t watch the whole show. First time ever I gave up an AP episode.

  44. Tough crowd here. This was his second show of the day after Crosstalk earlier. He said on Get Your News On With Ron that he’d never done a solo show before, everyone whad been on the show before was busy and TYT didn’t wanna try anyone new without Jimmy. We are fortunate that we even have this show to talk about.

  45. I love Ron, but damn, I was only able to make through about 30 minutes of this week’s show because he repeated himself so much.

  46. Repeating things doesn’t equal aggression. But the content you covered was much better than the last two weeks!

  47. Yes Ron repeated himself a lot. But rememeber that it isnt like he’s been doing it for that long. As he gets more experience he’ll get better. He is already funny and very progressive, so thanks for doing the show Ron!

  49. I like Ron but having him host this show on is own is not the best idea. At the very least you could have Malcolm, Steve or even Mark Thompson co host. Definitely missing Jimmy since its now three weeks without him but I guess its a good reminder of what things were like before Aggressive Progressives was even a show,

  50. Ron I like you but damn you repeated yourself wayy too much

    I said you repeated yourself wayy too much

    Again Ron I like you but you repeated yourself wayy too much

  51. Ron’s gunning for your job, Jimmy! He’s younger, healthier, tech savvier, and hungrier . Hopefully you and Stef have your retirement plans in order. You’re gonna need ’em! Haha… Seriously though, there wasn’t another comrade to lend Ron a helping hand for this week’s episode? Come on…

  52. Ron, I love you but-

    You yell more than Jimmy and you’re preaching to the choir, you’re preaching to the choir, you’re preaching to the choir (no need for repetition).

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