TYT Hour 1 May 16, 2018

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Cenk and John Iadarola. Net Neutrality wins again. North Korea has canceled its talks with South Korea saying the U.S./NK meeting cannot be solely on denuclearization. Yesterday’s primary wins for progressive candidates. Progressive groups are not always helping our progressive candidates. Paulette Jordan won her gubernatorial primary in Idaho. Republicans have put another report on the Russian investigation and their possible meddling in our 2018 election. Senate judiciary committee releases notes on Trump Tower meeting. Embassy officials are worried about the long term implications of relocating our embassy to Jerusalem.

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  1. I sometimes wonder if I was the only one that thought Cenk / insurgent Democratic candidates actually had cards up their sleeves when they talked about “taking over the ship” that is the Democratic party. Given the way things have unfolded, I now have no effin’ clue of what Cenk was thinking the establishment would do when challenged electorally. Anyway, here are two things you could have done/ still can do if you want to do well in this fight.

    i) You are are still a media outlet with some reach (you do consider yourself a media outlet, right ?) When the opportunity comes to run a damaging story and put the establishment on the ropes, DO IT. When the Donna Brazile revelations showed the party being literally sold out to one of the campaign, it was a golden opportunity to discredit as much of the establishment as possible, TYT gave the story less airtime than CNN. TYT should have run stories nonstop about the DNC joint fundraising agreement scandal, and created big enough of a buzz to force both Tom Perez and Keith Ellison to publicly denounce the Clinton campaiign and the old DNC officeholders at the time.
    Fast forward to ~ 10 days ago.
    The PAC titled Duty and Country spent ~ 2million dollars to prop up Don Blankenship, convicted coal baron and racist Republican shockjock. This is a PAC affiliated to Democratic Senators.This is where Democratic establishment’s calories were going, and they were putting the country at risk for their political games.
    This came out 3 weeks before WV, it should have been running NONSTOP on the internet this 3 weeks leading to Joe Manchin’s race and EVERY gooddamn Dem Senator should have been asked to condemn this. The Democratic establishment should have been against the ropes over this. There is no indication till now TYT had a damn clue this was happening. If they knew, that makes them exceptionally shitty strategists to be having on your side.

    ii) A negotiation begins from either party having some amount of power and the will to exercise it in case of abuse. If I were in the shoes of Greg Edwards or Laura Moser, I would ABSOLUTELY run as an independent after the primaries. Let me explain.

    It is ok that the party establishment will have preferences. You deal with it, accept the result of the primaries, that is your end of the deal. That’s a healthy working relationship. But it is absolutely MANDATORY you demand the establishment keep its foot off the scale, and threaten and follow up with consequences if that working relationship is abused. Otherwise there is no deterrent to the abuse. The moment DCCC ran negative releases on Moser or tried to push Edwards out of the race, it should have been simple. If you lose, you immediately announce your candidacy as an independent, and guard your base. “But the DCCC is not affiliated to……” yea, go to Mommy with those excuses. You will not openly act out against me and walk away with the political consolidation I achieved. And oh, next time we’ll extend that privilege to not just to your hill committees and think tanks, but your donors and PACs. I see that thumb on that scale, you’ll feel my hand for the rest of the election.
    Debbie Wasserman Schultz’ friend, who was appointed as an election observer in her last primaries against Tim Canova committed election fraud and destroyed ballots. After this was known, and the Florida Democratic Party had her on AGAIN as the election supervisor – that’s what took Canova to finally run as an independent (the allegations were validated by the courts soon after). I think he waited one election cycle too many. The moment the flew in Biden to stump for DWS in 2016, he should have taken the nuclear option.
    You have to hit them where it hurts, or prepare to bleed with no leverage for ever and ever and ever.

  2. Hey, guys- I know Emily’s list’s Last minute infusion of a million dollars was heavy handed, but that doesn’t make Wild a centrist. She’s not. In fact, just as Edwards was approached to run for a lower office, so was she and until Emily’s list stepped in, she had the least amount of money raised by far of the three. But she’s unabashedly pro-choice and the Republican running as a democrat who actually had party support , is not only anti-immigrant, he’s also anti-choice. And he got funding from the same anti-choice group Lipinski received funds from and probably helped him eek out his victory. Emily’s list and Naral have both gone on the defense about this tactic by the dems to run anti-choice “ blue dogs” or former repubs in their red to blue efforts. They didn’t step in here until that anti-choice group reported their funding/help, etc. or, at least not until very late in the primary. I just think their motives are different than Wild’s., ( and if anyone received help, it should’ve gone to Karen Eastman in Nebraska who pulled off a win anyway-yay!).

    I know it’s easy to lump anyone with some wing of the party’s support in with the centrists, etc, but I don’t think that’s totally accurate. I wouldn’t call her progressive, but Susan Wild seems to be what used to be a normal liberal. And she’s a woman, and in case you missed it, women won last night in unexpected numbers, establishment women, centrists, progressives, Democratic Socialist (3, at least, that are women, and one of them cleaned her incumbents clock!) . even Republican women won , and in Pennsylvania, this really is worth noting because they haven’t had a woman as part of their Delegation in decades, if ever ( not sure on the numbers for that, but long enough that no one expected so many women across the board to win their primaries.)

    Anyway, I was rooting for Edwards and that was disappointing because he seems to be relatable in a way that’s similar to Bernie in getting the progressive message out. But, let’s not attach the centrist, or moderate label to Wild. She’s brand new and worked as a prosecutor for years, and received an endorsement from the prosecuting arrourney she used to work with who recently charged and successfully convicted their Mayor for corruption, which is ballsey, to say the least.

    Wild also mentions Bernie on one of her “Principles” pages, which was very smart because for some people, agreeing with Bernie might be enough if they’re unfamiliar with the other candidates in the race. I think Edwards needed more exposure, at least in the urban/ city areas to combat the conservative rural dems who are more likely to pick a white woman over a black man. Wish that weren’t true, but it’s more true than we sometimes like to think. In those instances, we need a groundswell similar to Alabama and really get the nonvoters and irregular voter out in massive numbers. Also, I think name recognition plays a big part in smaller communities and he should have a much better chance next time around, just as Fetterman did winning the Lt. Governor nomination after losing soundly in 2016 in his district seat. So glad he came back, too!
    Anyway, I know, and agree that we have to put identity politics away, but it’s also true that there are still more women than men in America, But you wouldn’t know that by looking at congress. Heck, we’re not even in the room, let alone at the table in most states and higher, and our rights and protections are being challenged in a very real and significant way. We need women to fight for our rights, not just old white guys who often just don’t ( with the exception of Bernie, of course, who’s one of my favorite feminists).
    Still, we need strong progressive people of color and strong progressive women, and when we can, both together. But, there has to be room for people like Wild, too, as long as she’s representing the people of her district, as her platform, at least, seems to represent.
    Tisha

  3. These are the kind of women I can identify with, How about the Emily’s List identity politics pushers get behind THEM (or just shut all $1Million of their “free speech” dollars up). How money can be free, let alone speech, I will never understand. We do have commercial speech, which corporations by nature should fit in. Not only are corporations not actually individual people, but speech cant be free if its bought and paid for. That’s just illogical to me. Kind of like the DCCC Strategy of turning red seats blue by running republicans who call themselves democrats, many of whom vote with republicans nearly ALL THE TIME. ..so, what exactly are we flipping? The color?
    If this seems reasonable to them, perhaps they should go work for the Republican Party officially and stop fleecing Americans who haven’t caught on yet to the propaganda machine that is the DNC. So tired of their tactics, as many life long dems like me are once we start to see things clearly.

    Speaking of clarity- do we ever get to see some facts on ANY of the claims the Senate Intel committee or anyone else finds? I am so happy to see what they’ve included as recommendations for securing the vote. However, I’d like to see some proofs about who did the cyber attacks on states election sites, etc, and which states they were. I’d kinda like to compare them to the 22 or so 2016 dem primaries with Exit Polls way outside the MoE. And why, if Russia wanted to stop Clinton and therefore accessed voter registration sites, why did nearly ALL of the voter registrations that were changed, missing, or purged in the primaries belong to Bernie supporters or likely Bernie supporters?…not to mention, we know election officials in NY did this themselves. That were blatant, and now admitted to (with little to no consequences or actionable changes beyond lip service). Other states were better at obscuring similar efforts with overall incompetence (California’s primary- did they have ANY of the pages and pages of problems that poll workers reported after the general election, or was that just a primary anomaly?) or by manipulation during a Caucus ( Arizona-the whole thing, at each caucus level.)
    Unfortunately the Bernie delegates who had their credentials pulled right before their state convention for entirely erroneous reasons that happened to be just the number the HRC people needed to take back the HRC delegate numbers they lost at the CD level because not enough of them showed up, all of this was obscured by the erroneous chair throwing, putting Berner’s on the defence and unable to reset the narrative to the bigger issue- which was the entire convention. It was not only a farce, but about as undemocratic, unfair and inaccurate as you can get. Kinda like the National convention where Bernie had more delegates present than HRC, but her superdelegate votes put her over the top.)

    Anyway, we need to look at the bigger picture, so like I said, I’m happy to see the recommendations to improve the secureness of our votes. I’d be even happier if there was some legislation behind those recommendations, Like specific rules for how we conduct audits in some states/cities (Chicago!!), which is just backa..word, and while they’re at it, reinstate the entire voting rights act that’s been gutted, especially by some states.

    And, lets just stop the nonsense about exit polls not being a reliable indicator of election fraud. It is and has been, and is one of the only indicators with electronic-only vote machines (whose MoE’s were the most out of whack during the primary, and a little outside the MoE in the general), and they’re what WE use as an indicator when we observe/verify elections in other countries.

    Anyway, wish we could focus on this more, especially right now with so many primaries occurring. But, very very happy to see progressives winning some primaries!…somehow, I think, that may be the harder win for some (many) than the general. We’ll see how far they’ll go to sabotage their own candidates when its a progressive running against a republican in general elections. OK, babbled on long enough, here.

  4. You do realize that Idaho hasn’t elected a Dem in a state wide election since the 90s and that was the exception.

    Plus where all the purists have gone? I thought purity was a none starter when it comes to guns.

  5. I’d love to hear some commentry on Tillerson’s speech from TYT. It sounded to me almost as if the had called for a mutiny…

    1. Don’t be fooled by the Rex Tillerson Apology Tour. He was more than happy to gut the State Dept and go along with Trump until Trump got tired of him. He is just butt hurt and trying to salvage whatever is left of his reputation.

  6. Loving the new app. Please add Chromecast though! I’d love to be able to use the app instead of the website.

  7. I’M IN NEW ORLEANS AND I CALLED JOHN KENNEDY!!!! :D :D :D :D

    OMG DEMOCRACY.

    Imma call him to say thanks.

  9. Hi all,

    When multiple users notice issues with downloads, you might want to send a quick note to support@tytnetwork.com

    I usually try to provide some context (like Browser type)

    I think this gives folks who can fix the issue visibility to the issue.

    Fran

  10. I’m at a hospital with my mom who just got cancer surgery (no joke) and Trump looks more red than her.

    1. Cenk complains a lot about the traditional media. Does TYT have reporters out on the sites with the traditional media to ask questions? Are any in the White House press room during the briefings? We need to get out there and ask questions too not just stay on the internet.

      1. Bill Press is in the White House Press Room. Look up your questions before making assumptions. Ryan Grim is on the hill etc etc.

    1. Download the “Video Speed Controller” plugin for Chrome or Firefox. It lets you adjust the speed of any HTML5 video by .1 increments.

      Manic Cenk at 1.5x is a true motivational inspiration, plus you can watch the vid in 66% of the time!

  12. Thank you, John, for keeping it short on the boring financial statement. I like to hear the important news rather than the latest gossip media shark frenzy that makes a 5 minute story last 5 days.

  13. To download: Right click the ‘Download Video’ button; Select ‘open in new tab’; Click the download icon on the media player.

  15. well I couldn’t watch live that night and you don’t have that coverage up yet. how can we get that coverage anywhere else? YOU ARE REALLY LETTING US DOWN CENK!

  16. I just found out you can download the audio. It doesn’t work if you click “download audio”, you have to click “listen”, then click the download (down arrow) button.

  18. happens to me as well.. i just refresh the page it it works after that.. sometimes its got to do with my internet connection

    1. Glad I’m not the only one, I’m over here trying 2 different browsers and shit thinking it was me… its a 0 byte file…

      1. I just found out you can download the audio. It doesn’t work if you click “download audio”, you have to click “listen”, then click the download (down arrow) button.

  23. Why is the audio always out of synch? Is it just me and my laptop, or is the synch problem universal?

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