TYT Hour 2 May 11, 2018

In The Young Turks Hour 2 - On Demand by Zoe J33 Comments

Cenk, Ana, Aida Rodriguez, Maytha Alhassen. Donald Trump wants to lower drug prices. A man is choked by police at Waffle House. How the Met Gala was offensive.

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  1. Not that Jesus would ordain this role of the Pope to a black woman? this woman does not understand Art 101.

  2. I know one thing I’m a 2020 presidential candidate against Trump and it will be high up on top of my list in my platform to fight against police brutality and also update USC 42 section 1983 the civil rights code to sue them rotten bastards with automatic consent to having their county sued into the goddamn ground. Crooked judges have fucked up the entire system. People don’t understand the wall was written to sue for more money than God because that was the only form of punishment they never send these crooked cops to jail I want to change all that.

  3. Looks like the crooked fucking pigs to me. They’re all out of control. I’m white and I am most got murdered by them for going to Walmart. Now Walmarts going to get sued for probably $100 million I don’t even give a damn about the money it’s a matter of there’s got to be punishment. I also promised the crooked pigs they’re going to jail for 30 years. Stay tuned.

  4. Looks like the crooked fucking pigs to me. They’re all out of control. I’m white and I am most got murdered Byam for going to Walmart. No Walmarts going to get sued for probably $100 million I don’t even give a damn about the money it’s a matter of there’s got to be punishment. I also promised the crooked pigs they’re going to jail for 30 years. Stay tuned.

  5. In regards to the Waffle House story… As an unreasonably huge guy, I’ve felt a responsibility my whole life to treat those around me with care. Normal people get to bump in to each other on the street. When I bump in to someone, there are medical bills to pay. Large people have MORE of a responsibility to de-escalate and avoid violence because of the physical power we have over others.

  6. The church participated in the Met Gala. Church officials toured the exhibit. If other people who claim to be Christain were actually paying attention to church statements they would know this. *eyeroll*

  7. Not to mention that the Met Gala theme is inspired by the Met’s exhibit for the year, which itself is inspired by the art of clothing and jewelry in the Catholic religion. It’s honoring the art that the church has created over time.

  8. Aida Rodriguez & Maytha Alhassen (who has really nice hair every time!!) are by far my two favorite guests on the show, you all work so very well with each other unlike any other “news” outlet thanks TYT!

  9. Lol. Cenk is an idiot when it comes to art. He only likes Denis Minamora because his paintings look like photos–PERIOD. That’s it. That’s more of a craft than an art, in my opinion. Cenk has about the depth a micron when it comes to art. When it concerns art, Cenk is a COMPLETE moron.

  10. I’ve been island hoping in Greece for my honeymoon for the last 10 days and I feel like I’ve missed a months worth of news. Geezzz.

    Head spinning.

  11. The word catholic has more than one meaning – possibly another interpretation by the Met? More dumbing down of the country.

  12. Cenk your skin color is no darker than mine and I too hail from the Mediterranean area
    and I am not brown. This not to in any way meant to disparage you as you are one of my heroes. Please explain.

  13. Religion has been an excuse for far to long by those who need an excuse to be horrible. They argued about it even being in the Constitution for f%ck sake! If the King had not had his own version…which allowed him yet another excuse, to treat people horribly and oppress them… keep them in the proper cast. The deal was, keeping the separation between church and state…feckless idiots! It is used to punish children who then grow into monsters, and so it goes! The whole point is to someday escape all this awfulness and ascend…Forgiven all awful things in the end. Mean while ,the generations begin to produce sociopaths and psychopaths, they make cutthroat bankers, c.e.o’s, dictators, and yes the very sheep to follow them, because it is familiar. The thing is our government is full of them. They will kill and have…shove your religious freedom b.s! They need something because they can not experience feelings…to many together…like the rep’.s in congress will equal people with no voice…they take care of themselves!

  14. For Wafflehouse: We don’t have all the facts in this case and have no video of what precipitated the incident shown on the video. It did LOOK excessive, but until I know all the facts I’m not going to judge the cop in question. Race probably played a role, but seriously (and I’m white) if this was me I wouldn’t be back-talking the 200+ lb. dude who had me pinned while I knew he could start bashing my head into the pavement at any time. Should I have to “roll over” and “know my role”? No, of course not, but it would still be smart to feign it at that point (you can always sue the guy or get him arrested later – now was the WRONG time for the gay black dude to get all uppity, he’s lucky he’s not DEAD). Does anyone know if Waffle House itself has put a statement on this yet? Because again, TYT brings us this story with very little background or response – they just immediately proceed to bashing the cops and calling everyone racist, which probably doesn’t help. And the Bundy people have NOTHING to do with it. Once again the best argument Cenk can come up with is a “whataboutism”, like a stupid State Media (Fox News) guest. UGH!

    1. I’m really glad Eric Garner had the opportunity to sue the cop later… Oh wait, he didn’t because he couldn’t breathe and died. Sure, this time the guy survived, and thank god, but in that moment, there’s no way of knowing what would happen. The guy just wanted to breathe, is that really too much to ask? I don’t care what happened before the video started rolling, there’s no reason why a person who is unarmed should be choked.

      Also, it would be wise to actually understand the terms you use. “whataboutism” is a distraction tactic, where you say “sure, this is bad, but what about this other thing that is worse?” hence, the term “whataboutism.” Cenk bringing up the Bundy people wasn’t trying to distract from anything, it was an illustration of the point that white people can stage an armed rebellion against the government and face virtually no consequences, meanwhile black people can be doing nothing wrong and yet will be brutalized and killed by police officers. Now of course, these outcomes are not always the case, unarmed white people do get shot by cops and black people do have fine interactions with cops, but to say there isn’t a racial component to how cops treat people is counter to the actual statistics, and the Bundy incident is a handy way of illustrating the difference.

    2. If you’re not going to judge the cop when – by your own admission using your own eyes – it looks excessive, then when exactly would you judge the cop?

      Nah, you’re bullshitting. You have no intention of ever judging the cop. You just wanted to call the black dude “uppity.”

  15. Catholics can bitch and moan about someone disrespecting their religion as long as they don’t kill anyone over it.

    1. Also, Anna please don’t make a comparison between Catholics complaining about fashion to Muslims who murdered cartoonist. Seriously that’s very disrespectful.

    2. Ice T’s Bodycount are touring again. Will all the footage of cops beating / murdering blacks cause him to resurrect their ’90s LA riots era anthem “Cop Killer” – advocating a “time to get even” – or will 20 seasons of playing a cop on SVU have softened T’s stance?

      It may be worth recalling some of the incredibly incendiary lyrics: “for Rodney King & Daryl Gates(?) I’d like to drag a cop out in the parking lot & shoot him in the motherf******g face”. Clearly this rhetoric is not helpful; but it doesn’t take much empathy to feel the rage rising in the community every time another ‘black-killer’ cop gets away with murder.

      Cenk’s point can be widened to the cumulative tension, between black communities & institutionally racist police forces across the US – how do we de-escalate before it sparks mass civil unrest? Unlike Starbucks, it’s gonna take a bit more than “an afternoon”.

      1. {not intended as a reply to brandongearhart2 – hit wrong reply button – sorry for hijacking ur thread}

  16. 1. A homeless man was found dead yesterday right by my office….. 2. my green card renewal has been pending for more than a year while Trump’s people decide if I can continue to be with my wife and 2 year old….. 3. we’re still paying off the 36k for the c-section. Shit is real. Shit is every day. Please help me to understand why anyone should give a crap about the ‘controversy’ over the type of fancy clothes the glitterati are wearing. I hear sometimes on TYT that fascists have gained power. If so, please help me to understand why a moment of time or attention should be spent discussing the 1 percent’s orgies of mutual fellatio. Here, take this muslim’s / POC’s formal permission on behalf of all Islam & POC everywhere, to wear whatever the hell you want whenever the hell you want. Now that’s settled maybe we can go back to helping each other survive.

    1. saddamshaikh, can you provide a summary of the process you must complete to become a citizen? (I am assuming you want to remain in this country with your wife and child, who I am assuming are citizens.) Since I do not know anyone who is in your position, I am reaching out to you for a bit of enlightenment. Thanks.

  17. Oh, for Godsakes! It’s a super cool Halloween costume. I can’t believe this is even a thing. It’s like Rocky Horror nonsense.

  18. Marvel has been appropriating Thor, and other Norse gods for decades now….where is the outrage ;)

  19. The video of the cop choking the guy near the end, and really any video of any cop illegally attacking or killing someone, always makes me think the same thing: Why do Republicans think it is okay to carry a gun and kill someone that is attacking you or even makes you think you are in danger despite no indications you actually are in danger, but killing or even injuring a cop in self-defense isn’t okay and is just unthinkable? They could at least be consistent in advocating lethal responses. I don’t carry a gun and I feel no need to carry one, but I’m also white and a veteran ( and my vehicle plate also indicates that) so I have no need to feel threatened or in danger around c ops – although I still do slightly – but for demographics that are in danger for no good reason what do they do when the people killing them are the people carrying the badges?

    I seriously doubt any reasonable person wants to push for allowing citizens to legally kill cops, so why not push for better training and more discriminating hiring practices based on past criminal history or really any derogatory information that comes up in a basic background check while also making it extremely easy to fire and black list from any and all law enforcement related jobs anyone that unjustifiably injured or killed someone 2 times or targeted specific groups like minorities or even a majority group if that is what is happening. This makes no sense. You can’t be pro-law enforcement while fighting against better training and cheering them on in situations that also increase the risk of them being killed in self-defense or people taking matters into their own hands and retaliating by ambushing cops completely unrelated to any known incident and that are just sitting in their marked vehicles for exactly this behavior which has happened numerous time over the past few years.

  20. Huh? White women have appropriated wearing a head scarf. If you feel Islam calls to you and you believe wearing a head scarf is part of that, that is a conservative side of that religion. It is not race. Any one can have any faith that they want. I am sick of ppl saying “cultural appropriation”. That insult only applies to white ppl. Every other race is allowed to take on things that speak to their hearts and no one says a word. That is racist. Face it, you can be racist against any race, even the white race.

    1. re: pepperwindu It probably sounds dramatic, but I think anyone that unironically uses the phrase “cultural appropriation” hasn’t really thought through the implications or is just un-American. The entire outward facing modern identity of the country is the mixing and sharing of cultures, or it was until white supremacists felt emboldened by a president willing to champion their cause. I don’t see how people on the left can reconcile the contradictory ideas of shaming people for trying to understand, participate in, and promote a different culture while also claiming to want to be inclusive of other cultures. And I agree about the head scarf; white women can convert to Islam. Calling it cultural appropriation when they follow their religious doctrine and norms is religious discrimination.

      1. With all due respect, I’m pretty sure I’ve seen non-Muslim women wearing head scarves. Pretty much all over the place. Technically, wearing a head scarf isn’t culture appropriation because, why would it be appropriating a culture to want to wear fabric over your hair? Doing so was insanely popular in the early 1900’s through the 1950’s and I’m positive people were not trying to convert to Islam by wearing one or even to tout the religion itself. I’d love to wear a robe around constantly because it would be soooo comfortable, but would doing so be considered cultural appropriation? Of course not. It would just be weird. Now, if I decided to put my hair in corn rows or if I started using colloquialisms like the N* Word, that would be cultural appropriation. If I wore a sombrero around and told everyone to call me “Jefe”, that would be cultural appropriation. Also racist. It’s not that hard to see what is and what isn’t cultural appropriation.

        1. White people aren’t allowed to put their hair into corn rows? What kind of arbitrary nonsense is that?

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