TYT Hour 2 April 3, 2018

In The Young Turks Hour 2 - On Demand by Zoe J23 Comments

Female shooter at the Youtube office in San Bruno. Pruitt given special housing accommodations by a lobbyist representing an environmental firm. DEA arrests prescribers and pharmacists and revokes their licenses in response to the opioid crisis. Teacher’s in Miami are not able to afford rent, proposals of special housing near schools for the teachers.

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  1. As a teacher, I agree that Finland’s model is the way to go. I am really uncomfortable with the suggestion of providing housing to teachers. Here’s why:

    1. It feels like another brick in the anti-teacher, anti-public education wall we’ve been building for a few decades. The efforts to take apart teaching as a profession by professionals, and treat teachers like clerks, has been marching forward for some time. Providing some sort of housing is a way to continue paying sub-standard, clerk-like wages, further distancing teachers from other professionals.

    2. Speaking of being professionals, I wonder how many people in the general public who are NOT teachers have any real idea of what it takes to BE licensed as a teacher. The Masters, and the time and tuition costs; the unpaid interships; the additional tests to pass AFTER completing a college degree…and with all of that, a career that will never pay as much as others with similar education, does not extend professional respect, and assumes that one becomes a teacher for short work days and summers off…total ignorance of the reality.

    3. And…why should teachers have to rent? With all of the above in #2, why shouldn’t teachers be able to be part of the mythical middle class that is able to own a home?

    4. And finally…they aren’t offering to actually provide housing; just to provide housing at a reduced rent, which is not, as mentioned in #3, building any kind of equity; whatever that “break” amounts to would be better applied to salaries.

  3. Other people who lived at their work were slaves, living at work makes it more difficult for people to diagree on issues with the employer or search for other work if unhappy.

  4. LOL, I don’t care if someone might call it ableist, I love seeing Cenk do his impression of loony toons in describing unthought conservatives.

  6. On the teacher housing topic:

    The other thoughtful comments made by others in the comment section are excellent. I echo those sentiments and add that the proposal also smacks of the old “company housing” and “company stores” of the mill towns of the not-so-distant past. If one takes this proposal and considers how it might be manifested in the current landscape of school privatization, the result is nearly identical in outcome to the model of the mill towns.

    If you read into the history of the company towns you’ll finds that it’s a very bleak and sordid history rife with abuses where the liberties of the workers were stifled to an atrocious degree. The company towns had their own private police forces employed by the management to monitor the workers and report back any attempts by the workers to unionize or speak out against the company. These police forces used violence to suppress strikes, breakup the workers’ informal meetings, and enforce sundown curfews in order to literally whip the labor force into line. We should keep this history in mind before even considering the supposed “upsides” of this proposal.

    To Ana’s point about the teacher housing being a voluntary program -how voluntary is it in reality if teachers are forced by low pay and high rent prices to enroll in the program? I doubt anyone caught in that economic bind would see it as a ‘voluntary’ choice. The forces exerted by capitalism on the working class might give the illusion of choice, but are in reality extremely insidious and coercive in effect.

  7. I just had a light bulb moment (rare for me)! The reason every person in America needs a bottle of painkillers is because we need them on hand for when we all got SHOT! If you haven’t been shot yet, save them Vicodins, you’re gonna need ’em and probably soon (BANG!)…..

  8. Teacher housing is another half-measure. It’s better than doing nothing, but will ultimately lead to the type of barracks Cenk talks about. The private system has eroded America from the core. What happened to American patriotism?

  9. @mrsbeard
    I’m sorry but I had to comment since you essentially blamed your kids bullying on the immorality and savage nature of public school children. That’s the same crap republicans like Ann Coulter use to justify destroying the entire public system cause saying that it creates “thugs” and “criminals” The truth is your kid could have been bullied at a private school, public school, after school program, neighborhood baseball team, or anywhere else that kids can be kids; and there’s no guarantee the adults in the room won’t take the “it toughened me up” approach. To wrap it up if you want to hold your kids close in a bubble and never let anyone be mean to them, then homeschool them, but don’t drop that diet republican bullshit that private schools are the answer to the cesspool children and morally bankrupt administration that inhabit the public system….it’s just….let’s say not well rounded thinking.

  10. At first like Ana I thought the teacher housing proposal was a mixed bag, thinking that at least they are trying to help them. Then I stopped myself and looked at it from the perspective of a teacher and I immediately changed my mind. This is freaking terrible, instead of helping teachers with better wages to afford housing, they are offering them a solution that essentially limits their freedom. Ask a Foxconn employee how they like their work provided housing. Freaking terrible.

    1. Not to mention the effect on curbing any possibility of a teacher “stepping out of line” or questioning authority. Imagine that it’s not just your job on line, but you will simultaneously be rendered HOMELESS if you dare to stand up for what’s right.

    1. Sometimes Cenk goes over and hour 2 is cut down. It can get annoying at times but it’s a live show and that’s that.

      1. don’t forget they have breaks. Any 1hour show on TV is really 42 min long. I bet Cenk goes long because he has some stuff on his chest that wants to bring out.

    2. To my knowledge, “hour” 2 has always been 20-40 minutes. You have to do the math on the whole unedited show. Which is:
      Length of “Hour” 1 show + length of breaks that are cut out for the members-only viewing + length of “Hour” 2 show + length of breaks that are cut out for the members-only viewing + length of Post Game.

      The length of breaks is equivalent to commercial time breaks that you would have on any commercial broadcast.

      So, a 1 “hour” regular TV show is NEVER 1 hour in length. It might be 40-46 minutes in actual length. Add back the commercial time & you get about 1 hour. No different here. I agree with another person who wrote that it’s misnamed & should rather be called Segment 1 & Segment 2. But the marketing as “Hour” 1 & 2 is most similar to what most people are used to with regular TV, so I’m sure it served that purpose faithfully when they first started using it.

      And, as others have said, when Cenk goes over on “Hour” 1, The “Hour” 2 segment gets reduced.
      Total all the above up & you get more than 2 hours of show though.

      1. I’ve been a member for a little over a year and Hour 2 is usually significantly shorter than Hour 1, though it almost always adds up to about 1:45 minutes of content (which is about right when commercial time is taken into account).

  12. I’m so sad to hear about another shooting. Poor YouTube employees without clear backpacks to prevent gun violence.

    The assumption that only wealthy people send kids to private school isn’t quite right. My oldest child was abused in school, with teachers, principals and yard duty employees witnessing and allowing the bullying and abuse. I will eat rice and beans every dinner, drive my old minivan and skip vacations if it means that my younger kids will be spared the same or similar abuse at local public schools. I’m not alone. Many families at our private school work for a living and are not rich.
    Thank you for reading.

  14. Good argument, pro and con having teachers’ residences. Here’s another consequence: Sick kids making teachers sick, and sickening the entire building. Granted, you probably won’t die from any sick kids, but sometimes the shit gets to be more than a nuisance, especially if it’s passed on to an elderly parent or someone immunocompromised. Think twice before signing up.

    You know how it is: kids come to school sick. Every teacher I (and you) know is constantly sick. Strep throats, colds, flus, conjunctivitis (pinkeye), gastroenteritis (like Rotavirus) and even something weird and horrifying called Hand-Foot-Mouth Disease (Coxsackievirus, I’ve seen it) sweep through school age populations. Because the school and living areas could occupy a single structure, germs are captive, much like college dorms which host outbreaks of meningitis. Also present is the added problem of antivax parents who might send a kid to school unaware the child has measles, mumps, or chickenpox, is communicative but asymptomatic. The public health authorities WILL quarantine your ass, no lie.

    Li’l sump’n to think about.

  15. Being a teacher myself, I kind of hate this. The upsides are true, but the unintended downsides are never having a private moment, with your life totally under scrutiny. Teachers are expected to be pillars of the community — much like ministers — but without the religious protections. This is like building ‘projects’ for a class of people too poor to live with the general public. They also become sitting ducks for those that feeling hostile. Will there be a big fence around it? Gates? Security Codes? sounds just great.

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