sooo only thing i disagree here was:
1) Palestinian-Israeli conflict
2) Chinese Communist Party-Kuomintang of China Civil War
3) Cenk advising for Female White Nationalist who is a wife of White Nationalist party leader to cheat on him.
1a) Zionists(European Jews) NEVER integrated into Native people’s culture etc…..They tried to throw out Native Jews, Christians, Muslims out of their HOMEs!!!! Palestine had Jews & Muslims attend each others Sermon days(Sabbath & Jummah). Muslims and Jews learned each others custom etc… Multi-Cultural them Today’s Isreal. Zionist RUINED the UNITY!!!!
2a)CCP won the Civil War and U.S. refuses to Fudge off in Taiwan WHICH China has sovereignty over.
3a) It’s better if she divorced him then married a Man of Melatonin; show off her ex-husband that he(2nd husband) was a BETTER man then he was.
I’m glad I re-watched this, as i had been suffering a lack of sleep the first attempt to watch.
I have recently realized that gaslighting and other narcissistic tactics are actually fairly popular in American culture. And can be seen at work when Kapernick (sp?) exercised freedom of expression and it got hijacked as being unpatriotic.
It seems that such tactics work in the favor of those that do not question their own motives and ethics, and those people seem attracted to and target those that do question themselves. Those who are only interested in winning power and against those that want equality and justice. As Cenk says, they have no qualms about being unfair.
If you are resistant to their tactics, they will seek to smear you and try to make others shun you (sabotage and control of information).
If you fight back (self-defense or a progressive movement), they will rage and go into full campaign to suppress you.
Anyways, this subject struck a nerve. When you have to fight it, you can come dangerously close to using the same tactics. I’ve learned that it is best to have others that do not agree with the game and are objective and value ethics.
my parents currently live in China, and before they went they were told they were not supposed to talk about the “three Ts” with Chinese citizens – Taiwan, Tibet and Tiananmen.
It used to be easy for me. Mostly handshakes for men and women, unless it was an aunt (hug) or of course Mom (hug, kiss) and sometimes the two-handed handshake for an elderly woman. Female friends that I haven’t seen in a long time –hug. Male friends that I haven’t seen in a while –handshake with a free hand pat on the shoulder. Then I started dating my current girlfriend who is Iranian and all that went out the window. Her family does the two cheek kiss. Now I get confused as to which greeting is expected. Ugh.
Somebody tell Cenk 2 things;
1. Windows Key + Ctrl + D to create a new desktop window for when his dad comes over to use his computer so he’s not closing all those important tabs. Super convenient!
2. Hold strong with the Chik-fil-a boycott! I’ve been on the bandwagon since it started years back. It’s not that the right side won, with legal marriage for all, its that Chik-fil-a is against that law, which puts them on the wrong side of history, so the boycott is to drive the company in the right direction on civil rights.
I wish Old School would be uploaded consistently. One of the main reasons I pay to be a member is Old School, and it is always uploaded so late. Love the show though!
Why does it take forever for Old School to get uploaded? I want to be able to see before my children, and my children’s children pass on from this mortal coil.
Old School is the pretty much the only reason I’m a member and it’s frustrating having to wait forever week after week…
Cenk, you need to read Family of Secretes, by Russ Baker..
He actually connects Bush 41 to the man that helped Oswald in and out of Russia (Molschild?), during his investigation he found that Bush was in Texas and close to Dallas the day of, and a couple of other connection I can’t remember (it’s been years since I’ve read the book).
No one NO ONE gives a shit about Russia. Attack Trump and Republicans on their shitty policy positions. Tell the DNC and DCCC to fuck off. Reject all PAC money – corporate or otherwise. Counter with popular progressive policy: free college and debt forgiveness, living wage, single-payer healthcare, Wall Street reform, end of mass incarceration and drug wars, pull out of the middle east and end imperial adventurism… Not in the least bit complicated to win on populism without selling out
Plenty of people care about Russia. But on the substance of “Dems should be doing more to win on merit and not just bleating ‘Russia! Russia!’ ‘Resist! Resist!'” I do not disagree. It is possible to hold both positions simultaneously and want there to be a thorough investigation because the pieces out there just via current open reporting suggest some legitimately serious concerns about Trump and Russia and the future of our electoral systems and the future of our democratic institutions. The aggregate picture, if you follow the right people (who provide their sources so you can judge for yourself), is deep and wide.
That said, the *politicians* should be doing so much more than wringing their hands or weakly braying about conventions and norms. For as little as I thought there was enough there at that time, I appreciated that Al Green actually DID something to move things along beyond a TV interview. I appreciate when legislation is proposed. But Dems made an error in simply trying throw facts at the TV and the GOP in terms of how policies would impact people. It isn’t that that is wrong – it’s that they stopped there. For every piece of legislation, the Dems should quickly have responded, in unison, with their own left of center policy option. The time on TV shouldn’t have been spent trying to tell people that everything was really THAT BAD! it should have been spent on getting people to understand that this actual real legislation they are offering up is better because . . . Of course, GOP wouldn’t have acted on it or approved it, but it would have been more effective than just hand-wringing and whining about not being in the majority. It would have offered a starting point for negotiations and something constituents could have referenced in calls and emails and letters. It would have reiterated that the Dems are there, working for the people, trying to come up with ideas, and ready to lead. It would have made GOP look like the bad actors instead of making Dems look like obstructionists. Proactive, instead of reactive.
But the Dems aren’t that cohesive, organized, or interested in governance. So, Russia! Russia! Resist, Resist!
There is no better combination than Cenk & Ben—not just at TYT but anywhere else in the mediascape. And for Old School, no other ingredients are required.
Yup–has not appeared on iTunes. Why is this the one show that seems to be so inconsistent? Not all of us have our eyeballs glued to the screen in our downtime, people. I work online and like to listen via download in my free time so I can move and do other stuff….
I laughed out loud (while at work) at least 10 times during this OS. Love it when it’s Cenk and Ben!
I kinda always wonder if Ben is checking himself out in the monitors, he rarely ever looks directly into the camera.
I wouldn’t mind running my hands through his hair :P
correction to the white nationalist cuck story… They were not mother/daughter. From the Daily Beast story…
“The implosion began at a TWP compound in Paoli, Indiana, where Parrott’s wife, Jessica, was allegedly having an affair with Heimbach—who is married to Parrott’s stepdaughter from a previous marriage.”
The interview with Cenk’s dad is wonderful! I’ve recommended it to many people and I’ve watched it again with a few of my friends and everyone loves him!
OMFG the TRUMP LIBRARY will not have a single book in it! It will be full of gold plated golf stuff, lots of expensive art that looks like cartoons, and a cafe with big, beautiful chocolate cake, KFC, and cheeseburgers!!
The Reagan Library doesn’t have books in it either. I walked it, one end to the other, glancing at all the exhibits while saying in a loud voice to my companions “But… where are the BOOKS? Aren’t there any books in this library?” This behavior attracted the attention of an escort of dark-suited gentlemen wearing sunglasses indoors. Ooops.
Correction – did notice one book. In a display of his office or some such, I seem to recall there was a copy of an old Zane Gray western on a side table.
So, so good! I love watching these three together. We don’t see much of Jayar and Jesus on OS but it’s great when they show up. Btw, Cenk has satisfied his urge to curse: he’s gone back to Turkish swearing. I wondered where “hasiktir” or his variant, “wasiktir” went. Apparently he stopped saying it for a while. It’s the all-around favorite with endless variations: “Fuck!( it, that, oh shit, whoa, whatever).
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sooo only thing i disagree here was:
1) Palestinian-Israeli conflict
2) Chinese Communist Party-Kuomintang of China Civil War
3) Cenk advising for Female White Nationalist who is a wife of White Nationalist party leader to cheat on him.
1a) Zionists(European Jews) NEVER integrated into Native people’s culture etc…..They tried to throw out Native Jews, Christians, Muslims out of their HOMEs!!!! Palestine had Jews & Muslims attend each others Sermon days(Sabbath & Jummah). Muslims and Jews learned each others custom etc… Multi-Cultural them Today’s Isreal. Zionist RUINED the UNITY!!!!
2a)CCP won the Civil War and U.S. refuses to Fudge off in Taiwan WHICH China has sovereignty over.
3a) It’s better if she divorced him then married a Man of Melatonin; show off her ex-husband that he(2nd husband) was a BETTER man then he was.
I’m glad I re-watched this, as i had been suffering a lack of sleep the first attempt to watch.
I have recently realized that gaslighting and other narcissistic tactics are actually fairly popular in American culture. And can be seen at work when Kapernick (sp?) exercised freedom of expression and it got hijacked as being unpatriotic.
It seems that such tactics work in the favor of those that do not question their own motives and ethics, and those people seem attracted to and target those that do question themselves. Those who are only interested in winning power and against those that want equality and justice. As Cenk says, they have no qualms about being unfair.
If you are resistant to their tactics, they will seek to smear you and try to make others shun you (sabotage and control of information).
If you fight back (self-defense or a progressive movement), they will rage and go into full campaign to suppress you.
Anyways, this subject struck a nerve. When you have to fight it, you can come dangerously close to using the same tactics. I’ve learned that it is best to have others that do not agree with the game and are objective and value ethics.
my parents currently live in China, and before they went they were told they were not supposed to talk about the “three Ts” with Chinese citizens – Taiwan, Tibet and Tiananmen.
It used to be easy for me. Mostly handshakes for men and women, unless it was an aunt (hug) or of course Mom (hug, kiss) and sometimes the two-handed handshake for an elderly woman. Female friends that I haven’t seen in a long time –hug. Male friends that I haven’t seen in a while –handshake with a free hand pat on the shoulder. Then I started dating my current girlfriend who is Iranian and all that went out the window. Her family does the two cheek kiss. Now I get confused as to which greeting is expected. Ugh.
Somebody tell Cenk 2 things;
1. Windows Key + Ctrl + D to create a new desktop window for when his dad comes over to use his computer so he’s not closing all those important tabs. Super convenient!
2. Hold strong with the Chik-fil-a boycott! I’ve been on the bandwagon since it started years back. It’s not that the right side won, with legal marriage for all, its that Chik-fil-a is against that law, which puts them on the wrong side of history, so the boycott is to drive the company in the right direction on civil rights.
1+. Oh, and to get back to your desktop once your dad has left, hit Windows Key + Ctrl + left arrow.
more helpful windows tips
https://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-use-multiple-desktops-in-windows-10/
Producers! Send a memo to Cenk! he needs this info.
I wish Old School would be uploaded consistently. One of the main reasons I pay to be a member is Old School, and it is always uploaded so late. Love the show though!
Why does it take forever for Old School to get uploaded? I want to be able to see before my children, and my children’s children pass on from this mortal coil.
Old School is the pretty much the only reason I’m a member and it’s frustrating having to wait forever week after week…
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Cenk, you need to read Family of Secretes, by Russ Baker..
He actually connects Bush 41 to the man that helped Oswald in and out of Russia (Molschild?), during his investigation he found that Bush was in Texas and close to Dallas the day of, and a couple of other connection I can’t remember (it’s been years since I’ve read the book).
love how old school live stream gets removed but not uploaded to the *paid* members section for at least 24 hours. awesome.
No one NO ONE gives a shit about Russia. Attack Trump and Republicans on their shitty policy positions. Tell the DNC and DCCC to fuck off. Reject all PAC money – corporate or otherwise. Counter with popular progressive policy: free college and debt forgiveness, living wage, single-payer healthcare, Wall Street reform, end of mass incarceration and drug wars, pull out of the middle east and end imperial adventurism… Not in the least bit complicated to win on populism without selling out
I am no-one.
I think TYT does all those things on a daily basis in addition to reporting on the Russia stuff. You can walk and chew gum at the same time.
Plenty of people care about Russia. But on the substance of “Dems should be doing more to win on merit and not just bleating ‘Russia! Russia!’ ‘Resist! Resist!'” I do not disagree. It is possible to hold both positions simultaneously and want there to be a thorough investigation because the pieces out there just via current open reporting suggest some legitimately serious concerns about Trump and Russia and the future of our electoral systems and the future of our democratic institutions. The aggregate picture, if you follow the right people (who provide their sources so you can judge for yourself), is deep and wide.
That said, the *politicians* should be doing so much more than wringing their hands or weakly braying about conventions and norms. For as little as I thought there was enough there at that time, I appreciated that Al Green actually DID something to move things along beyond a TV interview. I appreciate when legislation is proposed. But Dems made an error in simply trying throw facts at the TV and the GOP in terms of how policies would impact people. It isn’t that that is wrong – it’s that they stopped there. For every piece of legislation, the Dems should quickly have responded, in unison, with their own left of center policy option. The time on TV shouldn’t have been spent trying to tell people that everything was really THAT BAD! it should have been spent on getting people to understand that this actual real legislation they are offering up is better because . . . Of course, GOP wouldn’t have acted on it or approved it, but it would have been more effective than just hand-wringing and whining about not being in the majority. It would have offered a starting point for negotiations and something constituents could have referenced in calls and emails and letters. It would have reiterated that the Dems are there, working for the people, trying to come up with ideas, and ready to lead. It would have made GOP look like the bad actors instead of making Dems look like obstructionists. Proactive, instead of reactive.
But the Dems aren’t that cohesive, organized, or interested in governance. So, Russia! Russia! Resist, Resist!
I think Cenk and Ben should run butts when they get together. That way they don’t have to make eye contact.
3 take aways from this episode, with the most important about Michael Shure being a trivia master.
There is no better combination than Cenk & Ben—not just at TYT but anywhere else in the mediascape. And for Old School, no other ingredients are required.
Tru makes me sad :( podcast keeps the timeline nice and sorted for me when I have to pause
PS: this episode appears not to have been added to the podcast RSS yet
Yup–has not appeared on iTunes. Why is this the one show that seems to be so inconsistent? Not all of us have our eyeballs glued to the screen in our downtime, people. I work online and like to listen via download in my free time so I can move and do other stuff….
I want to know if Cenk and Ben have ever patted each other on the back.
I laughed out loud (while at work) at least 10 times during this OS. Love it when it’s Cenk and Ben!
I kinda always wonder if Ben is checking himself out in the monitors, he rarely ever looks directly into the camera.
I wouldn’t mind running my hands through his hair :P
I’m glad someone else said it. I have a serious thirst for Ben Mankiewicz.
I came for Cenk and Ana, I stay for Ben Mankiewicz.
That’s what she said!
I’ve been watching a lot of The Office lately :P
My thirst for Ben Mankiewicz is alive and well. Not totally sure why, but it’s there :)
correction to the white nationalist cuck story… They were not mother/daughter. From the Daily Beast story…
“The implosion began at a TWP compound in Paoli, Indiana, where Parrott’s wife, Jessica, was allegedly having an affair with Heimbach—who is married to Parrott’s stepdaughter from a previous marriage.”
Best part was when Ben dropped the mike.
Next day old school upload? Awesome. Usually have to wait until Friday.
The interview with Cenk’s dad is wonderful! I’ve recommended it to many people and I’ve watched it again with a few of my friends and everyone loves him!
Where can I find this interview? Is it under TYT Interviews?
Yes it is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrpjOHrlY2s
I believe so, yes.
OMFG the TRUMP LIBRARY will not have a single book in it! It will be full of gold plated golf stuff, lots of expensive art that looks like cartoons, and a cafe with big, beautiful chocolate cake, KFC, and cheeseburgers!!
The Reagan Library doesn’t have books in it either. I walked it, one end to the other, glancing at all the exhibits while saying in a loud voice to my companions “But… where are the BOOKS? Aren’t there any books in this library?” This behavior attracted the attention of an escort of dark-suited gentlemen wearing sunglasses indoors. Ooops.
Correction – did notice one book. In a display of his office or some such, I seem to recall there was a copy of an old Zane Gray western on a side table.
so happy
This show takes the longest to get uploaded. I listen to most of them as a podcast but this one is always last to be available.
So, so good! I love watching these three together. We don’t see much of Jayar and Jesus on OS but it’s great when they show up. Btw, Cenk has satisfied his urge to curse: he’s gone back to Turkish swearing. I wondered where “hasiktir” or his variant, “wasiktir” went. Apparently he stopped saying it for a while. It’s the all-around favorite with endless variations: “Fuck!( it, that, oh shit, whoa, whatever).
OOOPS! This comment was meant for last week’s OS. I ended up on the wrong day somehow.
Fastest upload yet, much obliged!