TYT Hour 1 March 6, 2018

In The Young Turks Hour 1 - On Demand by Gigi Manukyan35 Comments

Cenk. Trump: no chaos only great energy in the White House. Australia not exempt from steel and aluminum tariffs. Trump administration reverses promise to ban elephant hunt trophies. Former Russian spy investigation update. Pelosi backs Lipinski for Senate. Italy election updates. Journalist Tanya Felgenhauer not silenced after almost-fatal attack.

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  1. Heidi Heitcamp also voted for Neil Gorsuch for Supreme Ct. My Rep, Earl Blumenauer, Portland, sent out an email asking people to donate to her campaign. I return emailed him of his midtake

  2. I think it would be very helpful and revealing if when voter pamphlets were sent out that they included the voting record of the incumbent over their last term. There would be no hiding what they stand for and who they represent when voters are making choices, rather than relying on their campaign propaganda

    1. We should put up billboards tyt we can vote on were and that, thy say .and donate to get them up, I bet we can get a lot ..

  3. Please be careful calling 5-star a “progressive left” group… They’re definitely populist, but they want to throw out all immigrants, seal the borders, and have had book burnings in the past. Thats not to discredit their more leftist goals, but they’re definitely a mixed bag.

  4. Again, Cenk embarrasses himself in front of the world talking about things he have no earthly idea what they are about:

    1. Liga Nord (now named League) is not “populist” by any stretch of the imagination. It has been in Parliament in various incarnations and is a classic right wing with a twist, it is openly fascist. It has been perpetually in government several times since its establishment either in regional governments or national ones.
    2. Five Star party won 25% of the vote last time around and increased its vote to 30% and gained roughly 1 million additional votes. It too would have lost if the new leader did not also adopt an openly fascist platform and modified its positions so radically it is essentially just another left wing party in Italy.
    3. Traditional establishment parties lost 7 points only. Hardly a “populist” wave.
    4. Russia doesn’t need to buy Italian politicians, they were already in the bag since the early 2000s, all of them. Berlesconi is infamous in breaking with Europe several times on Putin and Russia opposing several EU policies on the behest of the Russians back when he was PM especially during the Cyprus crisis.

    1. if your first 2 lines were: “I have more specific information that will clarify Cenk’s report”
      I will give a hoot about your comment…. but because of your first 2 lines I won’t read anything else… tks for posting.

  5. Cenk never said that Clinton lost due to Russian meddling. He talks a lot about the Russia story, but he has repeatedly said that many factors have contributed to Clinton’s defeat.

    He thinks Clinton’s incompetence is the main one, and that Russia meddling is a minor one.

    The reason he cares about the Russia story is not because of Clinton, it’s because of what it says about Trump and because of its implications for future elections.

    1. It was a loss of 3 counties, 35,000 votes that swung the electoral college vote away from her.
      with such a close margin, anything could have been the deciding factor, or several things.
      bad weather could have been the primary factor. The polling showed her ahead. It’s not like there was polling that showed a dramatic dip related to a specific incident. Because it’s so close, and we really can’t say with any certainty what swayed those 35,000 people to go the other way, people just map whatever their issue is onto the election, and say it was definitely the thing that they don’t like that caused it, and that’s what has to change.

  6. Cenk – great job covering the banking deregulation and the Italian elections.

    I am confused though: was Clinton’s defeat due to general voter antipathy towards the Establishment, such as we have seen in Italy and in Europe in general, or was it due to Russian meddling?

    Your segment today seemed to point to the former, but you spend 20 minutes of every other show you do clearly suggesting the latter.

    Which is it?

        1. Is this your first day watching TYT? The other aspects of Clinton’s loss have been covered extensively.

            1. one reason would be that as we move toward new elections, the clinton wing of the party will try and do very similar things that she did, and if we don’t talk about it, and challenge their narrative, those people will rewrite the narrative to fit their goals.

  7. This Trump/Russia thing may not be the ticket to impeachment that Cenk thinks it is. It seems that everyone is pretty sure that if Trump accepted help from a foreign government in order to become President, then he is guilty of treason, or at least “high crimes and misdemeanours.”

    I don’t think so, given the precedent of the Clintons.

    As we are reminded in a recent article in The Baffler:

    “In 1996, Republican presidential nominee Bob Dole decided to take a hard line on China—portraying the nation as a growing economic and geopolitical threat to the United States and a violator of international rules and norms.

    In response, China tried to leverage its extensive diplomatic, intelligence, and financial networks in the United States in order to sway the election in favor of Dole’s rival, Democrat Bill Clinton.

    This is not a theory, it is historical fact: there was a major Congressional investigation. In the end, several prominent Democratic fundraisers, including close Clinton associates, were found to be complicit in the Chinese meddling efforts and pled guilty to various charges of violating campaign finance and disclosure laws (most notably James T. Riady, Johnny Chung, John Huang, and Charlie Trie). Several others fled the country to escape U.S. jurisdiction as the probe got underway.

    The Democratic National Committee was forced to return millions of dollars in ill-gotten funds (although by that point, of course, their candidate had already won).

    It was a scandal that persisted after the election in no small part because many of Clinton’s own policies in his second term seemed to lend credence to insinuations of collusion. Rather than attempting to punish the meddling country for undermining the bedrock of our democracy, Bill Clinton worked to ease sanctions and normalize relations with Beijing—even as the U.S. ratcheted up sanctions against Cuba, Iran, and Iraq. By the end of his term, he signed a series of sweeping trade deals that radically expanded China’s economic and geopolitical clout—even though some in his administration forecast that this would come at the expense of key American industries and U.S. manufacturing workers.”

    So there you have it: Bill Clinton accepted massive amounts of money and aid from a foreign adversary and in return pursued policies that were explicitly geared towards helping that adversary.

    No one went to jail. No one was indicted. And Clinton ended up getting impeached for a blow job.

  8. OK, the killing of large animals that are or near endangered, just to prove that you’re a big bad hunter, is horrendous. So, let’s reframe the meaning of one of those photos. On a hopeful note, maybe the Trump family’s killing and cutting up an elephant will become a metaphor for what they do to the Republican Party.

  9. I think Cenk is quite right. I think it’s getting pretty nasty at the White House and I think it’s rats leaving a sinking ship.

  10. Hey Cenk . Do you think nancy laposi is a republican in disguise? Iknow her name is

    pelosi but I make fun of her name Lapussy.

  11. Today’s Primary in Texas
    ==================

    With 50% of Republican Votes tallied:
    Ted Cruz has 1,017,023 votes.

    With 61% of Democratic Votes tallied:
    Beto O’Rourke has 448,295

    We are told almost daily that Democrats are on the verge of turning Texas.

    Well, look at these numbers. The Republican Primary voters had almost zero reason to turn out for this primary, but it is likely when all Republican votes are counted that that horrid creature Ted Cruz will have accrued some 2 MILLION VOTES.

    2 MILLION.

    Democratic Primary Voters, on the other hand, will only cast a total of about 1.4 Million votes today. Yes, in a primary that has garnered a great deal interest, Democrats will cast 1.4 MILLION VOTES.

    Sadly, 2.0 is greater than 1.4! BY A LOT!!!

    This stark math leads me to believe that Beto O’Rourke has a snowball’s chance in hell of winning

    1. Cenk as usual deludes himself about chances of progressives in Red states and shits all over the establishment when they throw their support behind shady guys who have a decent shot.

      Texas will be a disappointment and so will be other Red and purple states. Progressives will only win in Blue states.

      1. while this is true, it’s still such a massive improvement to Jimmy Dore’s magical thinking where just wishing for things with no backing and hoping against hope is a political strategy, I think I go easier on Cenk. At least Cenk will read something somewhere before he just decides it’s true. Jimmy just says what he feels is true, and when it doesn’t work out, it’s because of conspiracies.

        1. Everybody can see through Jimmy including Jimmy, Cenk I am afraid gets lost in his dreams and drags the rest of the people with him.

      2. No, I’m not painting a broad brush. My comment was about Beto O’Rourke.

        I believe that the ReThugs will hemorrhage House Seats this Fall.

        If Conor Lamb kicks Rick Saccone’s butt next Tuesday it will reveal 2 things.

        1) God feels guilty

        2) A lot of ReThugs better start lining up their lobbying jobs. There’s going to be significant competition this time.

  12. I can’t help but think that the “Trump is done” senerio”is fantasy. Democrats can’t stick together and lack courage to stop him (they even enable him.) They are far more concerned with political considerations than ethics.

    1. How exactly can you stop a guy who has both houses of Congress, is the president and has a significant portion of the judiciary on his side?

    2. It is total fantasy. The democrats would have to take back the house and senate with a supermajority in both to even start impeachment proceedings. The Republicans are never going to do this. It would be too damaging, especially now as they’ve alienated everyone except their base, and the polling is dropping. If they go against Trump too, they will just lose.

      But even with a supermajority in both houses, you have to get all the democrats to agree to begin proceedings, and since democrats can’t take bold steps on anything ever, they’ll probably just hope they can defeat him in 2020 electorally. Then they’ll probably fuck that up too, trying to push the center most candidate and lose that too.

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