Murder With Friends: Amanda Knox

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Grace Baldridge is joined by Amir Nikoui, Jason Carter, & Christine Medrano for a campfire edition focused on “Lifetime Movies”–starting with Amanda Knox. They discuss the media frenzy surrounding her case and how the Italian news media twisted the narrative.


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  2. I heard about the Knox case but it got all swallowed up in all the earthquake/ tsunami / Fukushima reports going on here in Tokyo at the time. I didn’t know any black Italians were involved until I saw this MWF campfire edition.

    Like I said on the 2/16 Post Game, I love ? Murder With Friends, I get to learn sooo much.

  3. I am also very well versed in Italian culture as an Italian American citizen and have spent a lot of time there. Even to this day, Italian music and the general consensus is that she is guilty. There are definitely some things that this episode didn’t touch on that are relevant. I am a little disappointed because I was looking forward to hearing the impartial side of this and felt like Grace was the only person to consider her guilt. She has acted very bizarrely and it’s certainly odd that it wasn’t spoken about in this episode. Nonetheless, love you guys! But maybe go a little more in depth on this case…

  5. I was in Italy at the time that this was going on, but I was not following it closely. However, it was my impression that Knox and her bf had implicated and somewhat misdirected the police into looking into Lumumba BEFORE the infamous lengthy interrogation took place. I remember a time in which he was considered the prime suspect, and then they cleared him, and then they focused more intently on Knox bc what she said about him was bogus. Also, you say there was no DNA of Knox’s at the scene. I had seen in tv that there actually was her DNA there, but it was a miniscule sample, so the entirety of it had to be used for the testing. Then she confessed after a lengthy interrogation. Then, her lawyers wanted to retest the DNA but couldn’t, because the whole sample was used up, so they threw shade on that evidence, THEN Knox claimed her confession was coerced. There was a LOT of shit the Italian media threw at the forensics ppl for “fucking up” the DNA testing and, as they saw it, letting a murderer walk bc of it. Not saying Knox is guilty, just saying there were other elements to this story that were discussed at length in Italy at the time, and that’s what I had heard about it.

    1. Lumumba was implicated due to police coercion during the interrogation.

      You should read the decisions from the courts of appeal that exonerated Knox.

      The DNA evidence in Kercher’s crime scene clearly implicates Guede as the lone killer. Trace amounts of Knox and Sollecito’s DNA ended up on the murder weapon and Kercher’s bra clasp due to contamination from an incompetent crime scene tech. None of their DNA was found on Kercher’s body or in Kercher’s bedroom, which is where she was murdered. It is inconceivable that they could somehow have cleaned up evidence of their presence in Kercher’s room while leaving only Guede’s DNA behind if the entire group killed Kercher.

      The coverage of this case in the Italian media and the British tabloids was absolutely disgraceful. The only proof offered about Knox’s guilt was her “strange behavior” and a bunch of baseless speculation about how she was jealous of Meredith Kercher, whom she barely knew.

  8. So I feel like the same thing that drives me to love bad horror movies must be connected to people that love bad lifetime movies. I mean it’s obviously not 100% crossover but there is some connection there…

  10. RE Patrick Lumumba, there was some misinformation provided in video. He did not serve a prison sentence due to Knox’s accusation. He was held in custody for two weeks before he was cleared by the police.

    Additionally, Knox did not accuse him out of the blue. The Perugia police came to the conclusion that he was involved when they found a text to him in her phone that read “see you later.” They interpreted that to mean that Lumumba and Knox were going to meet later the night that Meredith Kercher was murdered rather than the intended meaning, which was that Knox would see him the next time that she was scheduled to work at his bar. The police then pressured her to point the finger at Lumumba.

    He didn’t lose his bar because of Knox’s accusation. He went broke because the authorities in Perugia refused to let him reopen it even though they knew that he had nothing to do with Kercher’s murder.

    Knox was not responsible for Lumumba’s hardship. The same incompetent and biased people who framed her for Meredith Kercher’s murder were. I don’t blame her at all for refusing to pay the civil judgement that was awarded for implicating Lumumba in the murder.

    1. I didn’t know all this but even without these details I think it’s insane to say that she was responsible for what happened to him and not the police. I know that we like to think of people as “adults” once they are 18 but she was just barely beyond being what most would still consider a child. She had lost a friend, was battered by the cops, and broke and made some accusation under pressure that I think would break most people. To put guilt on her is just not fair. Even with accusing him they were the ones that decided to pursue it. I think he is due something for what he went through but not from another victim

      1. To me, it’s really telling that Lumumba and his Italian wife left Italy and now live in Poland. All of the public shade thrown at Knox aside, it shows whom they really blame for their plight.

    2. Agreed. She is not responsible for what happened to him. What happened to him is worth a discussion but blaming Amanda Knox for it is not fair.

  11. For 17 minutes this really goes into a lot of detail. I didn’t follow the case at all while it was happening, yet this episode summed it up well.

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