TYT Hour 1 December 8, 2017

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Cenk, Ana, & Jimmy Dore. Roy Moore wishes the world was like it was when slavery was around. Right wingers saying Roy Moore accusers signature is forged. Update on DNC Unity Reform Commission. DCCC update. Ex-Arizona police officer acquitted of murder.

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  2. Fox knows that once something’s been said, it’s already out there and impossible to fully take back. A small percentage of the people that watched or read the original (or heard it repeated later) will also become aware of the correction. Some even refuse to believe corrections. I have no doubt that Fox spits out inaccurate stories on purpose, because nothing ever comes of it. Their viewers are never outraged at their unreliability.

  3. Cold blooded murder… that fucking pig wanted to kill that kid from the beginning and wasn’t going to leave until he killed someone. I’m tired of the myth of “the good cop”… there is no such fucking thing. Every fucking cop in this country is guilty of being a murderous thug… none of them speak out against these horrors and they all cover for the “bad ones”. Seriously, I could care less about any pig who gets killed. most of them only sign up so they can legally terrorize and brutalize other humans.

  4. Jesus Anna murdered that Roy Moore story, and not in a good way. Maybe one less blunt before tomorrows show, Anna.

  6. How in the blazing fuck could this be seen as anything but cold blooded murder? God damned I’m glad i’m not living in that cesspool.

  8. ~*~*~*?Its kinda cute how cenk brings out the good in jimmy ?*~*~*~
    ? I didnt exactly love jimmys show when i watched it but im happy hes able to hold productive conversations. And i do love tyt for not creating a “dont talk about this” list.

    Please dont kill the post game but im soooo stoked for this new show! Especially cause i feel like a lone wolf here in nh would be so happy to meet some likeminded people.

  11. The police shooting shook me up. I have a boy with autism and there’s no way he could survive a situation even a quarter that egregious. I really fear for him.

  12. I saw the police shooting from Arizona today and I am physically sick to my stomach. what have we become. to think this guy will not be punished is affront to justice everywhere. I have been listening to the tyt free podcasts for awhile now and that video motivated me to join. I had not heard about this shooting through the msm and am glad tyt put it out. every person in the usa should see it. none of us are safe in this country.

  13. Please announce what percentage of subscribers TYT has lost since Jordan’s untimely departure?

    Give Jimmy a 2-hour show (at least) twice per week if you want to see subscribers stay. And we DON’T MEAN the “Rebel” thingey– that does not at ALL seem like a real deal, much less a genuine one.

    AND PAY JIMMY *BIGTIME* FOR ALL OF HIS APPEARANCES. He should NEVER need to pay TYT a nickel for anything.

    You need to mention ISRAEL’s treachery and Netanyahu’s crimes– past and present– if you are a legitimate news source. It can be very telling what you choose to chitchat about and what is glaringly missing.

    Last we DO NOT want to know about every freaking anchor or newsdesk person in media. Maybe YOU are fascinated by all of them, but we are NOT… and we are SICK OF IT.

    1. “Untimely departure” – I think you mean Jordan’s firing for misuse of company funds and gross lack of professionalism in a managerial position. That’s his own fault.

    2. dude like .01%. It’s sad that he’s gone but there is no way TYT subs are going down for that. How about you don’t rage so much and look at the situation closely.

    3. Have YOU ever bothered to realize that YOU don’t represent anyone but you? Quit the royal plurality bullshit be cause no one else cares about your over inflated ego.

  14. I was an MP in the Marine Corps and they taught us that in order to use deadly force we needed “positive ID.” We needed to see the person, see the weapon, and see that they’re doing something with weapon other than just carrying it (such as aiming it at someone.) We did training where someone would jump up holding something BESIDES a gun, to test us. My partner and I fired on someone in a simulated domestic situation who had a lighter. Our higher ups made sure we knew we were wrong because we didn’t have positive ID. Lesson learned, for us. I don’t know what the civilian cops are teaching.

    Vivian

    1. I concur. What this does highlight that too many Police that instead of resorting to the use deadly force only as the last option, it is their first and only one. That is a problem…

      While I appreciate the panel’s passion, I do not see this case as one to make a cause celebre regarding the broader topic of Police use of deadly force. Certainly, it highlights the issues of training and tactics, but here, the victim fails to comply on at least four occasions and so I’m somewhat surprised that he was shot sooner.

      This was not a “Philando Castile”. The Police were responding to reports of a weapon, confronted with a subject that continually failed to comply and made suspicious moves. In some ways, I am surprised that the Officer was even charged; certainly, I’m not surprised that he was acquitted. It certainly was not “murder”, and I think the panel was wrong in assuming that the voice and the POV camera belonged to the same, one Officer: there would have been multiple Officers involved. At different stages, the incident commander (the voice we hear) did well, but at other times he let the adrenalin kick-in, rushed the situation, and panicked the subject. The Officer that did fire may well have subsequently proven to be unsuitable, even suspiciously cavalier, but I didn’t see that in this video; there were certainly instances where he could have opened fire earlier…

      I don’t think it’s as simple as “walk up and put the cuffs on”, but there is a middle ground between 0 and 11: too many PDs seem to only have one way of dealing with every situation and that’s deadly force. Given the lack of a visible weapon and the absence of aggressive intent, I would expect responders to err on the side of caution and the preservation of life, deploying non-lethal options such as a taser as the go-to weapon when attempting to neutralize and secure subjects in this type of scenario.

      As other contributors have noted, it’s obvious that anyone with even the slightest physical, psychological, or emotional problem with comprehending and complying with instructions will likely end up being shot and killed. That’s the problem when all the Police have is the hammer of deadly force: everything looks like a nail and every nail must be hammered quickly and without hesitation.

      1. “I am surprised that the Officer was even charged; certainly, I’m not surprised that he was acquitted. It certainly was not “murder”….”

        You are kidding me. I don’t do Video, so I just heard the tape….but THIS was clearly a case of murder. Pure and simple.
        I AM KEEPING CLEAR OF ARIZONA AND PHILIP BRAILFORD. Remember the name…

        1. Well, you need to see the video; unfortunately, the victim was unable to follow the directions and kept making moves that the Police could reasonably perceive to be non-compliance. As it turns out, this was, almost certainly, because he was terrified and not because he had bad intent. It’s very sad, and much of the problem is that Police have now got to the point that every situation is treated the same way: with deadly force being the first and only option.

          But to say that it’s “murder” is simply not accurate. “Murder” is defined as intent to kill. In this particular case, the Police obviously did not take the first instance of non-compliance as an excuse to shot, nor the second, nor the third. If they were really gung-ho and had decided as soon as the call came in that the situation was always/only going to end with a shooting death then they had opportunities to take that action sooner. They followed their tactical plan – I submit that it’s not a very nuanced one, and does not make any allowance for people that are unable to instantly comply – but the outcome could have been an arrest instead of a death.

          Given the situation – a tactical response to reports of long arms being brandished, in a country that’s armed to the teeth – it is reasonable to expect the Police to be prepared to respond with deadly force. If they do, and if that use is adjudged to be reasonably applied (given all of the circumstances), then it’s not murder; it’s one of the jobs that we ask the Police to do on our behalf. It’s just that there did not seem to be any middle-ground between 0 and 11.

          I’ve been trained in the securing, searching, and guarding of POWs; I wouldn’t have used the same tactics that the Police did in this case as it was complex and prone to misunderstanding and the perception of non-compliance. Cooler heads could have and should have prevailed; but, I do not believe that the Police intended to kill regardless of what the subject did or did not do. One has to assume that if the victim had not made that final, fatal gesture, then he would not have been shot and killed. His inability to comply – driven, as it turns out, by his own emotional state – is a contributing factor, but the Police tactics are also to blame for perpetuating a situation where non-compliance can exist. The best tactic is to ensure that the subject doesn’t have the need to move in order to comply, and that way they cannot be accused of “making an aggressive movement”. Second tip, in the absence of a visible weapon, is to have a non-lethal option.

          It’s certainly very sad, and more so because it was avoidable.

  15. I have a question about the Member hats. After looking on shop TYT, the only hat I found doesn’t have “member” on the back (in the photos they have, at least). Is the member hat a separate item, or do they take membership into account when you place your order?

  16. I saw this cold blooded murder again and I don’t give a fuck how many cops get killed. They don’t care about us and they can get fucked. They have been treating black people like shit for my entire 67 years. There will never be any pity for them from me.

    1. I hear you. If that police did not have a gun, he would not have acted the way he did. He wanted to kill that guy. If he goes to jail, he will get his butt kicked everyday until he wished he was dead.

  18. Never give to the DCCC. Or the DNC, or the DSCC. They will turn around and give your money to corporatists.

    No candidate should sign up to the DCCC extortion agreement. Instead, post their demand conspicuously on your website and ask donors to contribute directly to your campaign. If enough campaigns do this, the DCCC will get the message.

  19. So glad to see Jimmy, would love to see him on much more.

    I know that part of the problem with these cops is training but also they are recruiting savages. You don’t turn a decent person into a murderer just with a few weeks or even months of training, they are purposely recruiting animals. Just like the Nazi did. I am a 71 year old white grandmother (yeah the typical little old lady) and I would be afraid to call the police or be stopped by them. This is what causes violence against cops.

  20. I am a retired Judge and prosecutor, my brother is a retired Lt in the Miami Police department and we sickened by what can only be called murders by too many cops these days. No one is safe!

  22. Let me pose you a question: would you vote for a Republican instead of a Democrat that is accused of what that shit-bucket Moore is accused of? No third option, same choice as what the GOP Alabama voters are given. Thanks for your program, keep up the good work.
    Victor, Austin Texas.

  23. Moore will win because… tribalism.

    Claiming “moral high ground” and accusing others of not being moral is a stupid, losing strategy when it comes to tribal people defending one of their tribe.

    You would think this is at least ONE thing we would have learned in 2016.

  24. The DNC “are” correcting their flaws. They are ensuring the purpose of the DNC continues to provide money to themselves and wins to Republicans.

  25. Bruce Bartlett is right. There were over 24 Democratic Senators that called for Franken to step down. But how many GOP Senators? I think ZERO,

    That means that there can be no tit for tat, because of the absence of anything resembling a GOP tat. The GOP are laughing at the “stupidity” of the Democrats in eating their own. They will refuse to do the same “stupid” thing.

    To think that forcing Franken to resign would give the Democrats any sort of moral advantage or weapon against Moore or the GOP is pure folly.

      1. Nope. As a SD, Franken supported Clinton rather than Sanders – even though Minn went 62% for Bernie. And he was no real progressive – very wishy-washy on Medicare for all, and he voted for the defense bill etc. He was not a real progressive. He was good at defending Net Neutrality, but that was about it.

  26. We are about to become an exaggeration of every trope none to the american universe. I love* how celebratory we’ve all become at scenes of death and violence. I’m comforted to know that I was not selfish enough to bring a child into this mismanaged situation, I don’t think one of you are worthy or safe enough for a child to be around, let alone to be raised by. The water has been boiling for some time, and the wise saw this a mile back and changed their trajectory altogether. #TamirRice #NoLuck

  27. How about the very relevant rifle engraving is entered as new evidence, re-opening the case, and the cop is put in jail for murdering another human being. Like he obviously did. This is actually 1st Degree murder since it was carried out as an execution, so the officer had time to consider his actions and chose to murder the suspect anyway. In fact, just watching the scene, it was obvious to me that he wanted to kill the suspect. It sounded to me like the cop was enjoying himself. How did he ever pass the psychological evaluation to become a cop? Does Arizona not have those? Also, an AR-15, is a heavy armament for a cop. No non-lethal options available? They actually are really good now. The officer was close enough to have enough accuracy to shoot to wound instead of kill. Why didn’t he try that? He had one of the most accurate rifles ever made after all. Was the officer too afraid to try to handcuff a terrified suspect even while armed with an AR-15? If so, then was the officer simply too dumb to call for backup to handcuff the suspect if he was actually intimidated? Since there was no obvious threat from the suspect, he had no right to shoot the suspect. This is true for citizens, btw. You are NOT allowed just to shoot someone. They have to pose a clear threat or you, at the very least, go to jail for shooting them. Is there a different standard for the police? Perhaps giving an assault rifle to someone that’s as unbalanced as this cop is not a good idea. Giving them a badge on top of it is even worse. Then again, I live in one of the safest cities in America and our cops bought a tank….. It’s almost like the police are arming for war with the citizens. Sadly, we should expect more of this over the next 3 years, at least….

    1. There is no such thing as shoot to wound. However, there are a myriad of non-lethal options available. These cops are terrified as a direct result of their training, and therefore see no other option but to shoot. We had a tragic case here in Canada of a cop going on to a streetcar to confront a young man with a knife…he emptied his magazine into him…the streetcar was empty…the kid was posing no threat to anyone. We train cops the way we trained soldiers…I was at training centres as a soldier being trained while there were cops doing the exact same drills on the range next to ours. I’m not saying that the only problem is the training…there’s more to it, but training plays a huge role.

      1. All that to say…that was a fucking execution…I cannot comprehend how anyone would think that was justified.

  28. On the police murderer:

    Reasons no. 46478485489674685466894654655435684321546452132 to scrap the jury system.

    Unfortunately people will never learn.

  29. A few things about the shooting: The cop giving the commands and the cop who shot were two different people. The cop giving the commands was the sergeant and the cop who shot was a patrol officer. The sergeant gave awful, confusing commands and put the cop who shot in a terrible position by being super jacked up going in which made the other officers jumpy. That said it’s still an awful shoot. I wish the best for his family.

    1. The shit-head-piece of human garbage cop who was giving the orders : SARGENT CHARLES LANGLEY
      he quit/retired and moved to the Philippines …

  30. Anna was visibly perturbed when cenk said “and now we all know what it’s like to be black”, I cringed too but, nobody saw it.

  31. That video of the police officer riddling that man with his assault weapon – outright murdering him – got me to subscribe to TYT.

    That has to be the most horrific law enforcement video I have ever seen. The easy succeeding comment is to say that I have seen some pretty disturbing footage, but THAT – IS – **THE** most blatant, clarion, horrific police conduct chronicle I have known. Its in its own class. That was outright murder. Necessary force did NOT dictate the use of deadly force there. The suspect was under control and clearly at the mercy of the officer. If the officer feared that he did not yet have control of the circumstance, he should have called for backup to provide him cover for an ensuing apprehension. But even that was UTTERLY, PLAINLY unnecessary.

    That was MURDER. Outright murder.

    Please do follow-up and attempt to speak to the prosecutors in order to discover how the trial went, what the arguments were, and why this officer was acquitted. He should have been executed instead. Travesty, injustice, take your pick. We should know details.

    I don’t shock easily. That video disturbed and shocked me. It needs to be seen.

    Please continue to do good work and though I have limited means I am glad to support TYT and Cenk Ugyur & crew in particular. Thank you for your time.

  32. Don’t worry Ana. John was saying “theoretically” for so long that I personally turned it into a drinking game.

      1. How exactly are you ever going to make a convincing argument for somebody to give up their membership when you can’t be bothered to?

  34. The worst is I’ve seen this played with no audio elsewhere and the ass holes are already saying he wouldnt have gotten shot if he didnt reach. If you hear this cop, its a perfect example of what cops should not do.

    Who authorized this animal to hold a weapon? They should be fired and he should be in jail.

    1. MickeyRay, the body language of the victim clearly indicated he was no threat. He appeared uncoordinated, non-athletic and terrified. If the police are this bad at reading body language, everyone is at risk. Besides the cop being a murderer, the jury members are accomplices after the fact!

  36. Jimmy made the best point I’ve heard about the “It’s just a few bad apples” defense. If there were a bunch of good cops, then they would be screaming right along with us about how unjust those sick fucks are that murder innocent people. You can’t be a good cop while protecting the bad cops. If you remain silent, you’re just as bad as them. The idea of it only being a few bad apples is a myth, and I’ve never been able to express why until I heard him Jimmy say that.

  37. Jimmy launched into his rant # 6 about all cops are bad, because if there were good cops, they’d turn in the bad cops five fucking seconds after Cenk gave two examples of how cops that did step forward were run out of the department.

    I hate the entire police apparatus, but it requires systemic change of policing. It cannot be fixed by random individual “good” cops coming forward, getting harassed, fired, then losing their pension. We’ve seen that not work already. Cops are blue collar workers. They want a decent paycheck. Using the horrific violence supported by the entire system of policing as an excuse to yell about cops in your 2-dimensional, thoughtless rant, because it makes you feel good in your belly does nothing accept make you feel good in your belly. Maybe try thinking about a complex systemic problem complexly and systematically, rather than doing another one of your tired, thoughtless rants that does nothing.

    Also, Cenk, you don’t understand what it’s like to be black, just because now even you feel scared of cops. Yeah, it’s a bit more involved than that in the racist USA for black people.

  38. Has anyone tried dusting the yearbook for prints? If he wrote a bunch of stuff, odds are he TOUCHED it. Was he wearing gloves? (Unlikely.) So unless the book has been extensively handled SINCE, especially THOSE pages, and the front and back covers, and maybe the spine, there might be some recoverable prints.

    It would at least prove he’d TOUCHED it if he had, which would make it harder to deny it is his. Especially if the prints are consistent in placement with someone writing a comment. (I.e., if there’re just single prints like someone thumbing through the book, unlikely. If there are several splayed out, one index, one middle, one ring, a partial pinky and probably a thumb of one hand, that’s more likely because he was writing in it.)

    Just a thought.

  39. Cenk – I’m so sorry – I know this is petty but Wonder Woman’s lasso compels people to tell the truth and her plane is invisible. I won’t hold it against you.

  40. After watching that cop murder that person in the hallway, I will never feel sorry for the death of a cop or the family no matter what happens. They just murder people and that’s all there is to it with no accountability.

    1. Please be better than that David. That’s more like blaming an entire group in certain situations, e.g., blacks et al, which is much more done on the far right. Please think about that.

  44. I’m sorry but that cop committing murder was not because of any police training this time.
    Watch and listen to the video again and you will hear how he gets off on the power trip, he knows the victim is very cooperative and afraid so he plays around with him, taunts him and then ends his life.

    This is a clear case of a REAL psychopath/sociopath seeking a job where he can humiliate other humans and see his victims in distress.

  45. Bechoseveth, if what you say is true, then the Alabama voters are doubly ignorant. If they think it’s the coastal liberals that wamt to do them harm, they haven’t been paying attention to the tax bill and other Republican policies that will harm them even more.

    Rebel Headquarters sounds awesome, but does that mean no more post-games?

    1. “No more post-games?” I wondered about that virtually immediately after Cenk started talking about new show Monday thru Thursday, 8:00 PM. I hate that thought.

      I’m going to tweet many at TYT concerning that. That would be to me (I much suspect many here) a very big loss, for numerous reasons. That relatively brief, often light-hearted, and sometimes goofy show, is very psychologically beneficial just after so much news and talk of pain and suffering. I might post a pre-emptive rant Monday. :-)

  50. That video man. Soul crushing. How great would your Simon Says game be with a literal gun to your head and someone saying they are fully prepared to pull the trigger? And you can’t speak back to point this out, or you also will get murdered? This guy got OFF?!?!! ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!!?!?!

    I am sitting here stunned.

  52. Normally Cenk is spot on on a lot of these social analyses, but he waaaaaaaaaaay off about Alabama’s support of Moore.

    Alabamians arent saying “Oh this guy is evil, immoral, and full of hatred, so Moore’s my man!” Theres more nuance than that.

    They’re saying that they feel a cultural war where coastal rich liberals hate them, and seek to do them harm. There’s a lot of evidence that’s true. You can see evidence of that in Hillary’s deplorable comments, NAFTA, or just pick an Obama economic policy at random. Alabama isn’t rallying behind Moore because he’s a pedophile, they’re rallying around him because coastal liberals are attacking him and calling him a symbol of Alabama culture. Moores numbers were going down until the liberal culture attacks began, and then he started going up.

    It’s not about Moore’s pedophilia anymore, it’s about solidarity against hateful coastal liberals. The conversations about it that ignore the nuance is making the problem worse. It’s recreating the Trump election. Now Alabama is saying “Did you windows like the first brick? Because we have more.”

    1. That is honestly why I think the Democrats can historically destroy the Republicans in incredible numbers. If the media did not cover the 2018 elections.

      1. Hello Bechoseveth,

        Roy Moore’s personality and cultural leanings are symbolic of many people in the South (specifically Alabama), much unlike any other part of the country. History confirms that.

        What family members want to be told, sometimes in a snarky, degrading manner, “Your family has some troubling members”? Whatever the delivery method of such truths, truth is truth. I can apply that to myself in remembrances of certain social confrontations where i was wrong, but much resented the person telling me so; obviously for good reason. The reaction of the truthfully accused is often much based on that “delivery method.”

        That is the nuanced “truth.”

        PS “Did you (sic) windows like the first brick? Because we have more.” One little problem. They do not have more. They have “Moore.” (Maybe a little too cute. I couldn’t resist Bechoseveth. :-)

        PPS My selective Independent coastal hate is rational, understandable, and well deserved.

        Peace. :-)

    2. Almost makes me wish the South had won their independence. It sucks because globally that’s the stereotypical American. The fact that we elected Trump plays right into that stereotype. I wish they weren’t Americans, or maybe I just wish I wasn’t an American. I’d sure as hell rather be Canadian, or Norwegian, or Swedish, or Finnish, or Dutch, or Danish, or French, or German, or Icelandic, or British, or Irish, or Czech, or Polish, etc. etc. etc. I’d sell everything I owned, I’d take out a $100,000 debt with 20% interest, if I could get citizenship in one of those countries. I’d leave my wife and child for a year or maybe even longer if it meant that we could get citizenship elsewhere. The only reason why I’m thankful the Union won the Civil War is because we abolished slavery shortly thereafter.

    3. Alabamans who vote for Moore are deplorable it is just that simple.

      They had multiple choices in the republican primary and they chose easily the most deplorable of the band of deplorables, that is just who they are, deplorables.

      Making excuses for them like NAFTA (which benefited Alabama farmers and industrial workers over the Rust Belt workers and Mexican farmers), Obama’s economic policies (Alabama is a bum state getting more help from the Federal government than it gave in taxes and during Obama it got even more help) is just pure nonsense.

      There is no nuance pure and simple.

      1. @sec86379

        Your comment was pretty concerning. It wasn’t startling because of your misconceptions on economic policy or historical reverberations, it was startling because of how it echoed what the alt-right says. I wouldn’t need to replace too many nouns to make your hate speech sound exactly like their repertoire.

        You are a closer relative to the people you hate than you think. I hope you tone down your blind hate and temper your thoughts with an appreciation of history.

        1. There is no misconceptions on my part, the facts are there and the jury is already in. NAFTA benefited the South greatly especially when it comes to agricultural produce. Same thing with regards to government economic policy without which the South would be unlivable.

          Same goes to my opinion on the Alabama voting population in large. Anyone who votes for this monster or does not vote without any excuse is just as deplorable. They had a choice and they chose the worst of the lot. Then they had a choice again in the general and they will chose the worst of the lot and why should anyone be surprised, 40% of them don’t believe in interracial marriage for god’s sake:

          https://ballotpedia.org/Alabama_Interracial_Marriage,_Amendment_2_(2000)

    4. Yes, I doubt they are signing up for Moore because they think he is a fellow hater. I think a lot of them feel under attack by “liberals”. I don’t think they understand that actual liberals aren’t attacking them and favor policies that would generally help them out both socially and economically. NAFTA, TPP, and a lot of Obama’s economic policy was not liberal. It was corporatist and designed to help special interests. To the extent people in Alabama are against these policies, liberals agree with them.

      But I agree with Cenk that dumping Franken was the wrong politics. I think it makes it more likely voters in Alabama will vote for Moore. I’m sure they look at that and ask, “Well, where does this stop? If we let them get Moore because women accused him of his treatment of women then no good old boy will be safe.” I think they all know that what Moore has been accused of is horrific, but they are willing to turn their heads because feel like they’re under attack. Instead of setting a good example by driving Franken out of Congress, Democrats confirmed their worst suspicions. That’s going to make it easier for them to go out and vote for Moore.

      What party leaders should have done is demand a fair process of examining the accusations and taking appropriate action based on the results. And then enforced exactly that. That would reinforce our support for fairness and the rule of law. It would have set a clear distinction between how Democrats act and Republicans. And it wouldn’t have come across as an attack on conservatives.

      1. @richwingerter

        I agree 100%

        I think Franken’s banishment from the pack was inevitable though. Whether or not he was actually guilty of anything, the mere act of being accused tarnished the brand of the Democrat’s corporate business model.

        Democrats and Republicans really are the same. They have the same objectives, the same donors, and the same social circles. However there is a key difference: Republicans believe that might makes right, and Democrats believe decorum makes right.

        Franken was tarnished, and that broke decorum. He had to be removed. The saddest thing about all of this is that now the right wing hatchet men have been rewarded for using this sexual assault awareness as a weapon. Right wingers don’t care about decorum, so they’re basically immune. They learned how to game this cultural movement very quickly, and they’ll do it again, and again, and again, until it no longer works.

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