TYT Hour 2 November 13, 2017

In The Young Turks Hour 2 - On Demand by Gigi Manukyan28 Comments

Cenk & Ana. More awkward handshakes for Trump. Besties Duterte & Trump. Judicial nominee’s wife is WH lawyer. Women accuse George H W Bush of groping. Iran/Iraq earthquake. Carbon emissions moving in wrong direction.


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  1. To elaborate on Turkey, it is (by far) the most generous country in the world right now. Re Foreign Aid on a per individual (population basis) and even more so on a Per Dollar Earnt (GDP) basis.

    In total amount, US is #1 at $6.05 billion USD & Turkey is #2 at $6.00 billion USD despite having only a quarter of US population (80m ppl) and only 4% (yes, 4%) of USA’s GDP. On a GDP basis, it’s foreign aid contributions are 25 times greater.

    They are almost always the first to rush in to help during every crisis & were the first to call (within minutes) & help (reaching destination within 2 hours) the Kurds in Northern Iraq.

  2. About Carbon Sloppy, two important points that weren’t mentioned:

    1) The U.S. has the highest emissions per capita, and India and China have like half of the world’s population. Per capita is the only fair way to measure it. Not measuring it that way would be like punishing countries merely because they are large and don’t have more borders dividing them up further. When you measure by per capita, the U.S. is the worst polluter.

    2) Both India and China are leading the way in moving to green renewable energy while the U.S. is actually moving away thanks to corruption and traitors, such as Trump allowing coal plants to pollute rivers.

  3. Iran and Turkey don’t go along? Without Turkey Iran would have went bankrupt. Reza Zarrab was funneling billions of dollars every year to skirt the sanctions and in Iraq Turkey was essentially the air force of the Iranian militias fighting ISIS in Mosul.

    The only difference they have is in Syria and it is a minor one at that in the grand scheme of things especially that Russia is now the real king maker there.

    1. That was a bit of a weird comment by Cenk, considering Iran and Turkey have a fair amount of diplomatic history between them even in modern times (the Treaty of Friendship, Treaty of Non-aggression, the Central Treaty Organization, Regional Cooperation for Development). They also have plenty of bilateral trade between them, not the least being the Razi Petrochemical Complex and Turkey’s significant importation of gas from Iran.

      Some of the frostier politics between them in large part come from the following:

      1) Turkey (being a NATO country) hosting a radar system to track missiles launched from Iran
      2) Iran backing the Syrian government, while Turkey supports the Syrian opposition
      3) Supporting opposing sides in Yemeni Civil War
      4) A huge regional issue that’s been in play for a while – supporting opposite sides in the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict between Azerbaijan and Armenia. Iran’s long-standing support for Armenia has caused problems with Turkey (Tehran also backed Armenia during the initial war in the 1990s), since Turkey backs Azerbaijan due to close cultural and ethnic ties. Iran has a sizeable Azeri and Armenian minority population, but it backs Armenia due to their own historically close relations in addition to having their own tensions around territorial sovereignty with Azerbaijan.

      There’s a bit more nuance involved in the matter than “Iran and Turkey don’t get along.” Russia, Iran, and Turkey are big players in the eurasian region, and so there’s obviously going to be a bundled web of conflicts and agreements with roots spanning back a long, long time.

      In any case, politics aside, it is a kind thing that was done to send aid to the quake victims. The damage has been devastating – more than 430 killed and 7600 injured. It’s very sad, and the photos of the damage are heartbreaking.

  4. Ana, had this been three months ago, I would have had the same sentiment you used to. But my superior touched my butt a few months ago on a working trip and I was appalled, ashamed and confused. I thought I might have been the maxi dress, my behavior and I blamed myself. But seeing so many women come forward about sexual harassment has opened my eyes. I’m so sorry you went through that and so glad you shared. Much love and get well soon.

  5. Ugggh Cenk. Really hated what you said about Bush’s ass grab. Maybe it’s not reported but it feels the same way. And it’s still a question of power in the end. She didn’t report it because it was the president of the United States and she was 17 at the time. And also she was right! You ended up comparing wrongs and excusing him anyway….not a good moment for TYT!

  6. I get that it has a meaningful symbolism and shit, but that handshake is so friggin stupid the way it’s setup crossing right over left to shake hands with the people next to you. It doesn’t allow for an actual handshake, so I hope they warned everyone beforehand that it’s not a real double handshake, it’s just holding hands so just grab the people hands next to you, don’t attempt to fit your hands together like an actual handshake because it won’t work and you’ll look like an idiot trying to figure it out. For trump I’m sure they gave him like 3 extra reminders a minute before and even 5 seconds before in a earpiece lol “right over left, just grab each guys hand don’t do anything weird like your normally do with people’s hands”
    But for real, right before the video stops at 3:52 you’ll see the white guy on the left in the blue tie, he’s not giving a fuck by not crossing his arms and doing two normal handshakes with both guys next to him. To make this possible for everyone and have it be an actual literal handshake Instead of an awkward hand grabbing/holding, they would simply need every other person to be the one crossing their arms. So it would be one guy in the middle crossing his arms and having a proper hand shake (one left handed) with the two guys outside of him, and it would just go, 1 guy crossing his arms, 1 guy not, 1 guy crossing, 1 guy not. Every other guy, and every single guy would be giving a 2 real normal literal handshakes where your hands fit together. 1 normal right handed hand shake and 1 left handed hand shake for everybody. Pretty simple as long as you plan ahead and tell everyone ahead of time and remind the idiots right before which would be crossing their arms and which wouldn’t. Simple, and it isn’t awkward hand grabbing followed by akward hand holding in from the awkward grabs after everyone awkwardly figured out how to cross their arms and grab hands akwardly in a not possible hand shake so the awkwardly grab each other’s hands awkwardly and hold them even more awkwardly. I just love that the one white guy with the blue tie on the far left at the very end of the video at 3:52, he didn’t give a fuck, and probably figured it out from a diffeeent time that he could just say “nah fuck it, I looked like an idiot last time, I’m just gonna do it like this” and it payed off for him. He didn’t have any problem or any akwardness, and was probably appreciated by the two guys on either side for saving them at least half of their akwardness as well. Yes I repeated myself plenty, no, I don’t give a fuck, no im not gonna worry or care about anyone mentioning that I repeated myself a bunch. Yes, my comment is long and repetitive and pointless. No, the awkward handshake summit was not that big of a deal to dwell on. Yes I’m rambling at this point. No I don’t really care or think about hand shakes but doesn’t everyone hate pathetic or botched handshakes that become awkward hand grab/holds? Anyway it looked stupid and awkward as fuck so changing it to the way I said would still be strange but at least the one part most people are uncomfortable with (touching another person, even just a handshake) at least that part wouldn’t be awkward for the people doing it since they’ll all be doing real hand shakes and not just holding hands. With the way they do it right there, there will always be enough of them Hearing ” handshake” and trying for an actual handshake and then getting confused when it doesn’t work like that because they thought crossing arms somehow was gonna make it work and they’ll make themselves look awkward trying to figure it out and then they’ll all have awkward hand holds once they all awkwardly grab hands. So if they’re gonna do that, there’s absolutely no point in crossing arms. It does nothing. You’re just holding hands with the two people next to you. Cross arms and you’ll still be holding the same people’s hands and the only thing that changed is that your arms are crossed pointlessly. So they might as well just have them all hold hands without crossing arms because it would be the same exact thing with a little bit less akwardness and less people looking dumb trying to figure it out. Simplifying things can make a world of difference. So I had a change of topic that went on a super super super long rant about the piece of shit super rich evil cocksucking cunt bastards corruptly controlling our whole country and a great way to make the rest of us well off and our economy great for forever while still letting the super rich stay super rich, but the rant was way too long I guess so I cut all of it out and down to just the rant about awkward handshakes. Hope you all liked it. Or hated it. Who cares. The important thing is that super rich pieces of shit are corruptly hoarding all the money that could be making the rest of us happy and healthy and well off for ever, and they didn’t work a day in their life for it, they didn’t earn it and don’t deserve it (some of them did and do but not the evil pieces of shit) they’re evil lazy pieces of shit fucking the majority of us so they stay in control for forever so they can die with billions in their bank accounts like that does anything, so the rest of use barely make enough to survive and just hope one day we will make enough to retire happy early enough to enjoy it, but they want to take all the money and fuck us so we can’t ever be happy. Those evil fucking cunt pieces of shit. Anyway if you read all this you’re a hero, thank you. Maybe I’ll post my super long rant eventually, I saved it but idk if it will ever fit. Fuck the evil super rich lazy ungrateful undeserving piece of shit scum of the earth bastard. Peace uuute

  7. I can’t believe that Cenk is excusing Bush’s behavior. He is not some uninformed old man and he wasn’t suffering from dementia. He knows better and knows what he is doing. You have no idea what this can do to a young woman. Depending on her history it could be the last straw. These disgusting men are causing in some casing devastating consequences by their selfish, self gratifying actions. How doe the father of a little girl not see this as this nas anything but horrendous?

  8. Did Trump go out for a midnight hunt while bro-ing up w/ that
    evil MF in the PI to bag a few druggies~? Will he have the heads
    mounted for display in the Oval~?

    We need more creative faux facts.

    Sorry. Not sorry.

    ~Upaya~

  9. When you download the files for November 13th 2017 they say the 13th however on the website theyre listed as the 11th

  10. Re Philippines: It’s not just the drug addicted or drug sellers getting killed. It’s being used as a way to off political rivals, and threaten families. I have many Filipino friends and worry every day for them. Cenk, could you get TYT investigates to look deeper into this policy? More people need to know about the horrors going on over there. In the first week of this policy starting, many addicted people turned themselves in to jail, only to find themselves the first targeted by the killing. Cops have been planting evidence on children, then shooting them in the back after forcing the kid to run away from them. It’s an absolute nightmare. The rest of the world needs to put pressure on Duterte to stop this madness.

  11. You people have no idea what you’re wishing for by wanting Trump gone. If he goes, we get PENCE and that means war with Iran. It’s shortsighted and idiotic to have this unending hate-on for Trump. He’s the best you got right now on the Republican side. Deal with it.

    1. Not just war with Iran, war with the greater Muslim world. The first thing he’ll try to do is kick the Muslims out of the Dome of the Rock (the Temple Mount), so that the Jews can rebuild their temple and shepherd in Armageddon. Because he’s f’in crazy and wants the world to end because he thinks his magical sky fairy will pull him bodily into heaven while the rest of us burn.

      Which is ridiculous, because this would involve killing millions, and Thou Shalt Not Kill actually made the top 10 list of Christian No-No’s. But here he thinks that mass human sacrifice will get him into heaven. It’s Caveman religious thinking, and has no place in modern society – yet here we are, cheering on a homicidal maniac.

    2. Why is Pence any more likely to start a war with Iran than Trump? Please articulate your reasons with specificity.

      Trump has been broadcasting warmongering rhetoric about Iran since the day he set foot in office – and, in case you were asleep, he took the disastrously stupid step of de-certifying the Iran deal for no legitimate reason. As bad as Pence may be, I haven’t seen any compelling indication he’d have done that…Trump, on the other hand, RAN on “ripping up the deal” despite having a child’s understanding of the details.

  12. on the first story, i wouldnt be surprised if trumps advisory team, had to tell him “hey, you cant pull their hands in, you have to stay level with them.”

  13. I said we need Oprah Winfrey to run in 2020 for president & Whoopi Goldberg as VP Trump will go down.

    Pharmaceutical Co. & Dr. push these drugs on patients so they are very much responsible to get these people off these drugs.

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