TYT Hour 2 October 4, 2017

In The Young Turks Hour 2 - On Demand by Gigi Manukyan30 Comments

Ana, Brett Erlich, & Aida Rodriguez. Cost for LV victims’ injuries. LV shooter’s girlfriend. People using Trump’s deportation snitch line to deport in-laws. House passes 20-week abortion ban.

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  1. Wow – when you said “form of McCarthyism” it really gave this story even more gravity and made it so clear what they are doing with this given that historical reference. Especially b/c American citizen are held in immigration detention w/o hearing for months and even years.

  2. BTW, The Dear Leader is not an moron; he is an Idiot… For later reference: “Those who have an IQ between 0 and 25 are Idiots; IQs between 26 and 50 are considered Imbeciles; and those who have an IQ between 51 and 70 are considered Morons.”…

  3. fangirl energy never gets old–I’m 63 and def am fangirl of AIDA! You are SO fabulous and fierce, I love all the energy and intelligence you bring to the table.

  4. yeah, just my problem, and the problems of everyone around me. You can blindly love something that constantly works against you, no one is stopping you, but I’m not going to. Will I work for change? Absolutely. But I will not be patriotic. Respect is earned, and as of now, America hasn’t earned it from me.

  5. Think I said it, but, regulating guns has nothing to do with destroying 2nd amendment
    Forget banning anything
    Then right has nothing to fight
    Ownership should be based on LICENSING OWNERS for what they want to own. The more dangerous the gun, the number of guns, the more you will need to prove to merit the right to do so. Written tests should be required that cover basic gun safety. Renewal is needed to ensure changes in persons status, criminal, etc. The weapons themselves need individual registration. We do just this for cars. It’s a profit center for state gov’ts.
    It’s also a private profit center. Auto shops must certify cars are safe, gun shops could have to certify that you do indeed still posses the gun. Ed centers make money with driving classes for those who have so many points their license is in danger, could be so for this too, too many charges for drunkedness, drugs, home abuse, etc could require remedial classes. Then there are the basic requirements that 3rd parties could make money on, require locked gun cabinets, gun cases, trigger locks, barrel locks who knows what else.
    Someone on the left needs to draft up this ultimate won’t effect gun ownership but will make gun industry money, money, money, and offer it to rest of left to push. Any interns at some pol sci college?

    1. This is all really great stuff!
      My brother-in-law is a Game Warden and teaches gun safety classes. I think those classes should be mandatory if you want to own a gun.

  6. I’ve listened to The Turks for 7 years plus now.

    As per usual I’m listening to it on my morning commute today. I park and getting out of my car I hear Ana said my name as I’m opening the door. I was sooo surprised! I never thought I would ever get a shout out, never. WOW, I just wanted to thank TYT, and Ana especially, for making my day before it had ever really begun.

    Andreo Chavarria

  7. If you love a family member who’s engaged in self destruction through drugs or something like that… You don’t just say “Uncle Jim is the greatest guy in the world. He’s beyond reproach and if you say anything about the Coke under his nose you’re anti family.”

    This is how I feel about our country. It is great in many ways. It also has terrible aspects. The great part is we can all engage and use our rights to stage an intervention.

    We can fix the corruption, the racism and homophobia… And it is not unpatriotic to say we aren’t the best in every way. America, is addicted to oil, and foreign land, and imperial power.

    I can love the Constitution and still say that. Remember, the reason we have amendments is because we had problems, and red blooded Americans were standing up and doing their best to fix them.

    The Constitution is a living document. Reinterpretation, revision, and the continued debate on the state of our union keeps the document, and the wonderful dreams of our founding fathers alive and well.

    Our founders did the best they could. But just like all of us they were human. They were capable of genius and idiocy, sometimes all at once.

    Mythologizing is a form of denial. Remember that our founders were slave owners who founded a society based on “equality” and did it by killing the Natives, and enslaving the people of color.

  8. Please no more Aida..i can’t listen to anymore of her ill informed opinions. I just switched off hour 2 after 5 mins.

  9. What the hell? Did Ana just say she wanted to be a “good guy with a gun?” Is she not reading the same stories and statistics about people that own guns? She must want to be called Ana Oakley! See what I did there? Hahaha

    And about people that think they need guns to stop the military. Andre 3000 said it best when he said,:

    “While we ranting and raving bout gats
    Nigga, they made them gats
    They got some shit that’ll blow out our backs
    From where they stay at.”

    Not to mention bio, chemical, nuclear, drone strikes and several other conventional option to take use down with. It would be a slaughter.

    1. I heard Ana say that she wants to own a gun for self-defense because of the escalation of right-wing death threats against her, but that her cannabis recommendation prevents her from getting a gun.

      So a crazy person can buy a gun, but if you smoke pot, no.

  10. well said about the shooter Aida, millions share your frustration, don’t be discouraged by the haters, you always have you your finger on the ball.

  11. Enough with blaming the mentally for mass shootings already! When will TYT do the research on this? The fact, repeat fact, is that the mentally ill are by far and away more likely to be the victims of violence, all violence, than its perpetrators. If you can do that, then go one further and look at who IS responsible for mass shootings. The mass shooters are white men almost exclusively. What’s up with that? These men are not mentally ill (well maybe a tiny, tiny percentage). They are angry and frustrated. Anger due mostly to having to share power with black, brown, gay, and female people. Instead of just competing with other white men, for jobs, etc. they now must compete with the entire population. Boo fucking boo.

    1. Your conclusion doesn’t really jive with the Vegas shooting though. It was a country music festival, about as cis/het/white a concert as you could possibly have.

  12. 100% behind Ana’s statement about America. Ever since I was young I’ve never understood why a lot of us americans can’t seem to separate the country from the ideal.

    It’s because everything from school to sports to media influence us from an early age with propoganda which results in even the slightest criticism being met with verbal pitchforks. Hell, I still find myself getting that reflex sometimes and I’ve been cynical about the “rah, rah america” mentality for as long as I can remember.

  13. I’m with Brett on wanting to understand the motive. It doesn’t make sense, and I feel like I need it to make sense. But there’s a high probability it will never make sense.

  14. TYT should speak with Alan Sorking and prepare a modified version of the first part of The Newsroom as updated to 2017.

    Real information to disabuse the deluded

  15. Thom Hartmann has commented and written about the “spat” between James Madison and Patrick Henry (a slave holder) on the wording of the 2nd Amendment — where Patrick Henry was concerned about maintaining slave patrols in order to protect the institution of slavery in the Southern slave states. Seems that the founding fathers were, also, against “standing armies”; hence, the use of militias. So, now that we have a large and powerful standing army and the States each have National Guard units, it seems that the 2nd Amendment, with its well-regulated militia, is no longer necessary. Another interesting factoid is that the slave patrols were the forerunners of police departments — you can find studies/articles on this from Southern historians!

    1. I believe Thom Hartmann is the most knowledgeable constitution scholar on the progressive side. He has taught me so much it blows my mind.

  16. Ana is nicer than I am when it comes to speaking out against America. Because I am much harsher. Why should I “care and love my country” when it goes out of its way to prove how much it hates me every day? My country wants me to die under debt or illness, or die because I’m queer. It wants to rob me constantly, it wants to control my body because I’m a woman. My country hates my neighbors for their skin color. When my country shows it loves me, maybe then I’ll be patriotic, but until then, fuck off.

    1. Your country is larger than your problems. Those who repress you use the same arguments you just did to justify discrimination against you.

      Being the target of oppression does not release you from any moral obligations to work toward solutions. If anything, it puts most of the onus on you because people who are already comfortable are not going to do a damn thing.

  17. Read the Federalist Papers on what they intended with the Second Amendment. It was about allowing the States to have militias available to fight the native population if they tried to defend or take back their land.

  18. The U.S. obviously isn’t the greatest country in the world.
    And I think the vast majority of members are totally with Ana.

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