TYT Hour 2 Sept 15, 2017

In The Young Turks Hour 2 - On Demand by Gigi Manukyan28 Comments

Cenk, Ana, and Aida Rodriguez. Motel 6 bans giving out guest lists. Google & Facebook reaching “Jew Haters.” Teacher assaults child over refusing pledge. Juggalos marching on D.C.

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  1. It’s not patriotic to pledge allegiance to the flag. As an American, our allegiance should go to the Constitution. That’s why public officials are required to pledge to support, protect, and defend it.

    Fine if people want respect for the flag or the national anthem, but if they were “real Americans”, they’d stop worrying about people who don’t pledge to the flag and start worrying about the ones who undermine the Constitution.

  3. I always said the pledge at school – but never had any problems with others not doing it. I did get in trouble for one change I made though: from Middle School onward, I always left out “Under God”. That part was, first of all, added later – and as an atheist, I think there are plenty of reasons to say the pledge that have nothing to do with God and I shouldn’t have to throw that in because some guys were scared of godless Commies and figured they’d root them out by throwing that in.

    I only got in trouble once when a teacher noticed I would just have my mouth shut during that line – and it died down pretty quickly, fortunately. I presented my argument and she was angry, but she couldn’t really do anything about it, except complain to my father who taught at the same school. Apparently, he informed her that she would never convince me to do anything differently.

    1. Hour 1 was [1:06:46]
      Hour 2 was [0:33:22]

      Added together, it’s [1:40:08]

      Allowing for 10 minutes of commercials each hour, it’s actually slightly over two hours.

      Seems fine to me.

  8. I always feel super weirded out by Aida. Because I also go by Aida, I’m also Puerto Rican, and I also was born in Boston and make music (i believe in another episode she mentioned music) and we share our super focused view on the rights of minorities.

  9. Speaking of standing for the pledge; from very early on in my childhood I never liked the idea of being forced or peer pressured into doing it as well as reciting the pledge. I did what wouldn’t cause trouble but often did not recite the words. Not because I hate my country. Because I could sense even from that young age in kindergarten or 1st grade that it was social and psychological conditioning even though I wasn’t familiar with those terms. As I grew older and even to this day my thinking on the concept has only deepened. I’ve never had any thinking one way or another on those that choose to. Reasoning is a long open minded conversation; so I won’t try to explain why here; other than what I already said.

    1. I’m with you, Mark. Reciting the pledge feels like brainwashing and almost cult-like . From my first day of school as a child, I refused to recite the pledge or sing the national anthem. It felt very weird to me. Today I’m a special education teacher in a public school and I still refuse. When morning announcements come on each day and it’s time to recite the pledge, I don’t do any more than I did when I lived in different countries: I stand respectfully (as I would for any country) but I am silent and I do not place my hand on my chest. When I lived in Thailand and Germany, I did the same when their national anthems played at various events. I’m waiting for the day one of my students tells their parents I don’t recite the pledge and the parent complains to my supervisors. I also don’t understand why the national anthem is played at sporting events and other events – it’s ridiculous. I’m totally opposed to the kind of nationalism any pledge or national anthem represents, as its subtle (or not so subtle) intent is to portray one’s own country as superior to others. I feel that deeply ingrained nationalism is the catalyst t for so much world strife, so I don’t engage in it. I’m a citizen of the world. I don’t pledge allegiance to any country. I respect people in all countries equally.

  11. Ahh. Aida.

    If you could not steer everything into young white men vs young black men, I’d enjoy this a lot more, probably.

  12. Cenk : “I think that does sound powerful”
    Regarding the power panel theme.
    I love the power panel idea and all that comes along with it.
    However, I just think that the theme sounds like a knock off from Back to the Future.
    Does anyone else think this? Or hear this too!

  16. About two years post 9/11 I was having really bad knee pain and didn’t stand for the pledge…

    I got PHYSICALLY THROWN out of the classroom and told to go to the office.

    The principal was a total douche about it, then admitted that the school code in our state says they can’t force students to stand for the pledge. It was a Friday, so it was pledge and national anthem, so I didn’t get up and put myself in pain.

    …Teacher didn’t get in trouble…. (but if a teacher hugs a student having a hard time, they’re gone)

    I totally believe some rightwing nutjob would assault a student.

  17. The comment below was made to the Post-Game show with Steve, Malcolm and Dave. I don’t know I ended up posting it here.

  18. I’ve been a frequent viewer of the show for a while but I haven’t commented. I like the focus on news that doesn’t make the daily rundown and these stories do need to be publicized. Cocoa beans…who knew? Well, now I do. Thanks, guys. You’re a nice start to the weekend.

    Also, on another subject: I’ve been commenting on the main show and I wasn’t sure I was being heard. And I was happily surprised to learn that yes, somebody’s paying attention. The news desk has a glass/plexi surface, and it’s been collecting food, fingerprints, sticky whatever lands on desks, and it looked AWFUL. Nasty, dusty, sticky and just plain sloppy and amateur grade studio management. I suggested somebody get after the desk every day (or after every show, even) with some windex or glass cleaner, and lo and behold, SOMEBODY ACTUALLY DID! Thank you, whoever took care of it, thank you. It’s a beautiful set, the desk is sharp, and to see it not shining like a clean mirror every day is criminal. It’s the details that make or break. What if a prospective funder watched you to get an idea of who you were, and something seemingly minor as smudges, smears and fingerprints gave them an idea that you weren’t worth the risk? The world is weird that way and you never know what flips people’s switches. I want to see my TYT be everything it can be, and it’s truly the little things that count. Now that’s the way a highly professionally-run network with your coverage and influence does it!
    Thanks again!

  19. I was grabbed by my teacher in 6th grade as well and thrown up on the wall, then asked “did you take your medication this morning?!” I felt as I was doing something wrong but was just conversing with my friends. I looked on to my teacher as an authoritative figure. If only I knew then, that the action taken by that teacher was not allowed, I would’ve spoken up. I’m glad this child did!!!

  20. You think you have a hard name?
    Try being east African Cenk.
    There is no limits to the way your name would me mispronounced

  21. Algorithms are just another form of automation that costs jobs. Wondering why Ana did not go on her standard anti-automation rant.

    Automation is part of progress.

  23. Remember people, half of trumps twitter followers are literally fake people with bots spreading his propaganda to manipulate stupid people to believe things just because it seems like other twitter profiles believe it and retweet with lots of exclamation points. These bots are literally retweeting each other. Bots retweeting bots about how much they love trump for doing something a retarded goat would do. I wish TYT would do a story about all the Trunp twitter bots with a bunch of fake ethnic people to make it look like black people and hispanic people love trump. If they need to fake it to make it look a certain way, that means there’s a reason that they need to, which means that only dipshits like trump.

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