TYT Hour 2 Sept 7, 2017

In The Young Turks Hour 2 - On Demand by Gigi Manukyan28 Comments

Cenk & Ana. DeVos scaling back campus sexual assault rules. Pro-Kremlin propaganda Facebook ads and US elections. Kentucky goes after last abortion clinic. Japan goes after housewives. Woman stuck in window retrieving poop. United will not face fines for dragging passenger.

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  1. re: a drop in population numbers being a problem? FYI: Human population is too high and is a big contributor to climate change regardless of how technology attempts to reduce carbon emissions.

    A dropping population is GOOD for the planet. The problem is an economy that is driven by population growth.

    Let’s address that: what kind of economy is sustainable without overpopulation of human beings?

  2. Re DeVos. There is a good chance that the young sons of elite donors are getting caught by increased enforcement. Normally if there is an issue, they donate more money and make things go away. This makes it harder to do that. It’s *incredibly* difficult to hold students accountable criminally, but there are actions that can be taken on campus that could address cases that are clear but don’t hold up to criminal charges.

    If the current guidelines aren’t working, fix them, don’t dump them.

  3. I live in Tokyo, and Ana is right it’s a loose translation. I would say the expression “daijoubu” means “it’s all good” or “that’s fine” or “no worries.” It’s used in a response to a question like “is it okay if I_____ ?” The word “daijoubu” translates to “yeah it’s fine.”

  4. I saw Devos’ speech originally and thought it seemed mostly reasonable, surprisingly. Then I heard your guys’ breakdown of what it actually does. Thanks for correcting the main stream’s media weak reporting, where very few of them report on what is actually being done and are instead being misled by what is being said.

    Also I kinda wondered if some of the Hillary ‘supporters’ were actually trolls paid to insult Sanders. I’ve met more than a few Hillary supporters who bought into the anti-Sanders propaganda.

  5. Does Betsy have daughters or sons?

    I feel like if Obama signed an executive order banning the eating of puppies and kittens for breakfast, the Trump administration would have it reversed immediately.

    Gotta be fair to the those who were eating puppies & kittens for Lunch or Dinner, and were mistaken for people who eat puppies & kittens at breakfast. Fair is fair!

  6. I have to disagree with Ana.

    There are rape apologists. And the Trump administration, and much of the religious Right, is supportive of them.

    And it doesn’t mean they are all pro-rape (although some are), for the record.

    For people who grow up with immense sex- and gender-based shame issues, be it from secular or religious culture, find it very difficult to deal with the thought of rape, because it triggers those feelings of shame. This makes people want to believe that rape almost never happens, and that viewpoint is propagated by their local institutions – football teams, frats, churches, schools, and of course the rapists themselves.

    What I’m saying is that there is a constituency for the alt-right “war on boys” trope that Betsy DeVoss is acting from, and it’s a LOT bigger than just the people who are rapists or sexual harassers.
    Doesn’t mean they’re right. But it’s vitally important that we recognize that this is a real thing that real people are dealing with, and it’s fueling gender- and race-based far-right identity and hatred.

    (Also, we’d do the world a favour by improving the mental health opportunities available to these people *before* they find themselves in far-right extremist groups.)

  7. Cenk, why do you not want meddling in your elections? Does people in the USA remenber another 11 Sept? 1973 Santiago, Chile. Well I do, still living the consequeces of that CIA meddling. Meddling is what states do. Remember Operation Condor, South Amerca? We do. I feel strong solidarity for the working people in the USA, our struggle against injustice is the same,struggle but what if Hillary got cheated? Who cares! if everyone would have voted for Jill Stein the political landscape would have been another and there would be some hope in the world. As for now there is no garantie Hillary Clinton woldn’t have started some kind of war with North Korea, just to show Bill she also wears pants.

    1. cenk is also against the u.s meddling in other nations elections and has stated that many times and has pointed out the many times that the u.s government has meddled in other nations elections on previous shows

  8. Loved your coverage Anna.
    I don’t even know if there is any other point than negating anything Obama’s Administration did.

  9. As a rape survivor I find what Betsy devos is doing is a crime against other victims of sexual abuse and I think that colleges should still do what the Obama administration whited them to do in that letter

  10. Even as a male I am very happy to live in a civilized country like Canada. A quick search online found six clinics in the city that will perform an abortion (one even notes it there all female staff). Even better, it is all covered by the provincial health program.

    1. YES~!!! Had to freeze this viewing to send a SHOUT-OUT to the ENLIGHTENED Ms ANA for “her” most eloquent commentary on reproductive rights. Also SKULLY, I love your rebranding of the pro-life movement (as a recovering Catholic…don’t even get me started)…anyway, may I humbly suggest: the Committee for a Uterine eNslaved socieTy or… CUNTS for short.

    2. I’m a nurse who has worked in abortion care for 4 years and also call them anti-choice or simply anti for brevity’s sake.

  11. You put water in the bowl using the garbage can or something, just create a flow. For f*** sake you don’t scoop up the crap.

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