Post Game: Aug 23, 2017

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Cenk and Ana talk personal encounters with racism.

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  1. I know this is an older post game and maybe things are better (I’m playing catch-up), but Ana, these are classic signs of PTSD. PTSD is NOT just for vets and doesn’t require an extremely dramatic event or anything like that. It can be minor events that shake you to the core and then fundamentally change the way you perceive the world and act within it. It would be a really good idea to see a therapist or professional who specializes in PTSD (not just any old shrink) to work through these feelings because as millions suffering from PTSD will tell you, it’s extremely difficult (if not impossible) to “get over it” yourself.

  4. This was such a powerful Post-Game. Thank you so much for sharing, Ana. These are scary times and it’s so hard not to become bitter and fearful. We love you guys and we’re feeling the same way. Cenk is right, this is why we fight.

  7. Thank you for sharing this story. There are a lot of these stories happening in Portland right now and as someone that works in the community here a lot of us are torn on how to address people’s fears and concerns of safety. I’m personally a very privileged white male and unsure what I can or should do on an individual level. I don’t see these incidents happening of course because I’m not being targeted but hear numerous tales from people of color in the area that have had terrible things said to them for no reason. It’s a very disheartening time and I think the hardest part is I feel powerless to do anything about it.

    1. You’re not alone hombre. Stay strong. I have a good feeling about 2018, especially with the Senate. I could be wrong, but even if I am, there will always be actions we can take and ways to fight. We can do this. I have no idea how long it will take but we can do this.

  9. Ana,

    I was blown away by your courage. Thank you for sharing not just your story but also your honest feelings about that horrible experience. I plan to show this video to my daughter so she can see that she can maintain her voice and be successful. Thank you for being an inspiring role model for young women.

  10. Sorry, but some comments are fighting’ words – unless it’s an obvious situation where you might get pummeled.

  11. Anna is so awesome and I wish there was something I could say to make her feel better, but there just isn’t because I am a rando on the internet. I do understand that you can’t always just be like pfft that had nothing to do with me, even though it doesn’t. It’s just really unfair that people you don’t even know can get to you. I wish somebody had some way to flip that switch in us and make it not affect us.

  14. I just want correct Few things from Cenk, Muslim Countries have handled Usury even Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) did BUT we try not to impose Usury during Gold Standard Era(7th Century – 19th Century) Banking wasnt Dirty, Islam allowed us to Bank. Jews under Muslim Lands had Landownership AND PROTECTION from Discrimination WHILE Christians Persecuted them out of their Homeland and throughout the WORLD!!!!

    Cenk has the tendency to assume that Christian History is assumed the same as Muslim History.

  15. C’mon, Cenk, he spat on him then ran away. The best case scenario after that point was basically what happened – Alex Jones did nothing. At worst, Jimmy set you up to get attacked yourself, because there’s no way you can just spit on somebody and not expect an aggravated response. If he was going to do that, he could have at least stayed in his face if he really had your back.

  17. Ana, youre the best, don’t let a few people get you down. I’ve never seen so many people reply to a post game and its all because you’ve touch all our lives, we care about you and want you to be happy. You’re the best ana!

  18. Ana, I completely understand what you’re going through. I have Complex PTSD that I fight with daily, and it drastically effects my life. Know that you’re loved! Talk things out, seek help, then venture out of your comfort zone. I’d love to talk with you personally and give you some tips that make life bearable for me.

    Much love and keep strong!

  19. I know Ana doesn’t like lifting but doing some form of it or like boxing helps vent tremendously. I know a lot of ppl are big fans of yoga and it’s great but sometimes nothing beats taking out your frustration on an opposing force.

    You’re great Ana, Jayar, Cenk! Too strong!

  20. Here’s some advice – For years, just like Ana, I just turned the other cheek and walked away when someone acted like that woman, whether it’s someone saying something bigoted, or just acting plain old rude in the grocery store or whatever.

    So, now in my late 40s, I finally got sick and tired of it a couple of years ago, and when this sort of stuff happens nowadays, I just go ahead and give the assholes a piece of my mind.

    And here’s the deal — it feels great.

    So, Ana — next time, cuss her the FUCK out! Take my word for it, it feels great. It’ll also shock the shit out of them because they’re not expecting it, and believe me, it’ll shut ’em up.

    1. Gotta be careful though–some of these folks may be unhinged and armed. My mom told me something that has always stuck with me: If someone is mean to you, be twice as nice to them in return–it will almost ALWAYS make them feel much shittier, lol. Try it! But I know what you mean and I have yelled back too…

  21. Ana relax… you dont wanna go interact with people because of REAL things like… crazies in the world… Theres a ton of us out there but the fact of the matter is… the majority of people and even most crazies can control themselves OR EVEN BE SUPER DUPER NICE you cant have a few bad apples spoil the what ever the fuck seriously

  22. Fuck you you cunt… you sad lady want to pick up your dogs poop and go against the nature of stepping into dog shit. You sad fucking cunt holding so! SO! MUCH AGAINST A HUMAN WHO WONT PICK UP DOG SHIT BECAUSE YOURE DUMB ENOUGH TO PICK UP DOG SHIT!

    2. Obvist: You should read your posts before hitting “submit” ’cause that shit makes no sense at all, and the upper case outbursts don’t help, either.

  23. I woke up in the middle of the night and watched this and left a terribly written comment that I don’t have the ability to delete. What I meant to say was:

    This is so incredibly similar to what ‘coming out’ was like just 15 years ago and may still be the case in some places now. Except you were called a faggot instead of a jew. The reason it was so fuckin difficult for some people to ‘come out’ was because some people couldn’t handle facing that every day. We eventually got to a point where we hit critical mass and it wasn’t an issue for the most part.

    Learn from the gays: be who you are no matter what they call you in the street. We can’t let these assholes to win.

    1. very good point–I was in high school in the 70s and had several friends who were gay. They had to hide it from parents and classmates because just the rumor or hint of being gay bought you so much grief. Glad things are better now, but there is still lots of hate.

  24. Ana, I’m so very sorry that woman was such a bitch! I’ve read all the comments and while it’s true that the woman has issues, that you shouldn’t let it bother you or take it personally, etc., you are in a different situation than most people. You’re in the public eye and as such, the public thinks (WRONGLY) that you (and others) are fair game. In today’s political climate, people are encouraged and incited to be aggressive and violent. I completely understand your fear and apprehension at going out. Sometimes it’s best to hunker down for awhile, get your bearings, regain your resolve and confidence to face the ugly world we live in. Your husband loves you and as long as you communicate and are honest with each other, you’ll be fine. You’re so hard on yourself! Please give yourself a break!

    1. This seemed to be a random encounter just because the woman is a bigoted yahoo.
      I feel bad it happened to her, as I would with anyone, but it only bolsters my opinion Ana should be working behind the scenes because she’s not cut out for on camera work, professionally or personally.
      She seems to love teaching, and if she actually is a decent journalist would have more to offer by researching stories rather than torturing herself and falling apart every time an incident occurs.

  25. That is so hilariously over the top I wouldn’t be able to stop myself from laughing! I’d be like, is this youtube?

    I kind of wish Ana had taken that poop and really ground it into her back as she was walking away. And then when she turned around said, And that’s why you pick up the poop if a Jewish Cunt tells you to!

    I denounce and reject myself.

    2 nitpicks. Ana IS a minority. No one think millenials are better educated. I know she meant more progressive. But yeah, no.

  27. Ana this is so much easier said than done, but I try not to take anything personally. As a viewer I’ve noticed you’re a bit sensitive, WHICH Is fine. Often the things we say about others are just a reflection of how we see ourselves. That women clearly hated herself. Her goal was to inflict the pain she felt about herself on to you. Don’t give her the power to hurt you. She’s no one to you, and you’re better then the actions she displayed. Like I said much easier said than done, but take it one day at a time. I’ve honestly gotten to be pretty good at it, so if I can do it anyone can. I love you Ana. Showing weakness takes incredible strength. You’re the best, and have contributed to changing my life for the better. Keep up the amazing work!
    Don’t worry about boring Christian. You are a maga catch.

  28. Paul Ryan did a town hall in Wisconsin a few days ago with Jake Tappert and it is on YouTube. It would be a great source of clips for a segment–the audience is quite reactive on current issues, both positive and negative. Paul Ryan comes off looking like a real inauthentic establishment stooge too. A nun asks a question and it’s awesome. Worth watching for the mood of the country https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufL3iJMXzi8

    1. Thanks for the tip on the Paul Ryan town hall. Paul Ryan is a nauseating little puke, so I wouldn’t have normally watched….This is why I like to read the comments:)

  29. Ana, I hope you read all these lovely comments left for you that I have just read. First, thank you for having the courage to talk about something emotional on the air even if it makes you tearful. Respect for that.
    Second, I am 56 and a woman who lives alone and loves being single and doing things by myself, both in the wilderness and in urban areas. I’m a bit surprised nobody has suggested this: go to amazon.com and search on “taser”. You should be carrying some kind of personal protection device because you are recognizable to some of the public and there is so much irrational hate out there right now. Pepper spray, stun gun, taser, loud shrieking whistle, air horn: there are MANY options. Have fun with it! And I mean it.
    At home I have a handgun. I know many libs/progressives are against guns and I don’t know how your husband feels, but I would not be living in LA without a gun at home. Since I live alone, I absolutely always have one. When I have a boyfriend, I don’t tell them where I keep it, but the most recent one certainly knew I had one. I have never killed anything with a gun–I love animals as much as you, but target shooting is fun. You might find it a fun thing to do with Christian even!

  30. Not to make light of it, but to illustrate how long it has all been around, this reminds me of Tom Lehrer’s “National Brotherhood Week” from the 1960’s. That song included the lyrics:

    Oh, the Protestants hate the Catholics,
    And the Catholics hate the Protestants,
    And the Hindus hate the Moslems,
    And everybody hates the Jews.

  31. Yes yes yes to everything that Jayar said! Just because other people are going through worse, it doesn’t diminish the value of your own personal plights. I know it’s easier said than done, but don’t let the bad in the world shape your world. Talk to a professional about what you are going through. I’m sure they will have ideas to help you cope. I feel for you because although i haven’t been harassed, i feel deep empathy for mankind as a whole and I know how much that can weigh on a person. Thank you for sharing your story and I’m sorry that you have been feeling the way you do. Just remember, there are more of us than there are of them. Good always wins out. Just continue to be a good person and fight the good fight. It’s all anyone can do. We can’t force people to change. Love you Ana! :-)

  32. Thanks Anna for sharing this story and how you’ve been feeling. You are definitely helping someone else I’m sure who may feel vulnerable and scared after being attacked. Don’t feel bad or guilty for being skittish and going into your shell. Yes in the long run you don’t want to surrender and you want to live your life to the fullest but it will take time (especially after the hiking incident) and that’s absolutely fine. About 4 or 5 years ago I was jumped while walking home from work in the dark and had to wrestle the person and scream to get him to run away. I came away unhurt except for some pulled out hair and they never found the kid that did it. But it hasn’t been until about now (5 yrs) that I’m not fearful of hearing any footsteps behind me even in daylight. So don’t be hard on yourself, be kind to yourself.

  33. I loved Jayar’s words; he’s had to deal with this shit all his life as a minority. On one level, I sort of felt glad that Ana had to go through this, not for the pain that she suffers, but because this type of thing exists, and her knowing about it helps me relate to her more and makes her a stronger person.

    Ana, you do you boo. Focus on your achievements and fuck the haters.

  35. Ana I feel for you seeing how upset you were it’s the world we live in today I only know one thing that that woman spends her days hating and we know what a waste of time that must be hang in their your a good person and I luv your fire you show everyday thanks for what you do

  36. I feel you Ana. Dr. Paula Bruce can help you deal with these issues. She’s helped me. I’m so sorry this happened to you.

  37. People want you to fire Jimmy Dore for spitting on Alex Jones? Why? People should spit on Alex Jones more often. No but seriously I’m surprised you had to justify not castigating him.

    That sucks, Ana. On the plus side, you have the opportunity to fight back on a grander scale with TYT. Keep on rockin’ :D

    1. If anything, Michael Tracey needs a fuckin’ talking to for his bullshit about how we should ignore claims of anti-semitism in our culture because muslims have it bad. That shit was idiotic and nonsensical.

      1. Yes, we need to have someone straighten Tracey out for speaking his mind, because we consider it idiotic and nonsensical.

        1. Trump speaks his mind all the time. It needs to be straightened out. What a strange point.

          But all I’m saying is that dismissing concerns of anti-semitism (for blatantly idiotic reasons) along with the bizarre Maxine Waters debacle are way more serious issues than Jimmy Dore spitting on a piece of shit like Alex Jones.

          1. “Trump speaks his mind all the time. It needs to be straightened out. ”

            I don’t agree that he needs to be straightened out. He needs to be voted out, and he will be.

            I want to hear what Trump truly believes. But we can’t have that, because Trump speaks both for himself and his puppet masters, and half the time talks without thinking. I’ll just settle for that, and whatever lessons we learn from it, for the next Election. But straighten him out? Not possible.

            “But all I’m saying is that dismissing concerns of anti-semitism (for blatantly idiotic reasons) along with the bizarre Maxine Waters debacle are way more serious issues than Jimmy Dore spitting on a piece of shit like Alex Jones.”

            Ok, D.R.

        2. I should say that the reason I brought up Michael Tracey is because Ana’s experience directly deals with anti-semitism. As Cenk says, it seems to be strangely always below the surface. It shouldn’t be dismissed for precisely these reasons. It was not just meant as a random dig at Tracey.

    2. Agreed. Forget the RNC thing, for what Alex Jones did to the Sandy Hook families alone he deserves far far worse to happen to him than Jimmy Dore spitting on him. He is one of the few people on the planet that I would literally celebrate if he were to drop dead tomorrow.

    4. @DoubleReed Cenk wouldn’t fire him anyway. Cenk is loyal to his friends.
      The people within TYT are not just employees, they’re his friends.
      That’s why they have stuck with him all these years when the company has struggled to get where it is today.
      Those who shout out that ignorant nonsense don’t understand how Cenk Uygur operates.

      Ricky Strom just came back to TYT Sports after trying out a gig with 120 Sports in his hometown of Chicago.
      Cenk didn’t look at him as a traitor for leaving TYT 3 years ago.
      Cenk didn’t rub it in his face when 120 Sports fell apart & Ricky needed a job.
      Instead, Cenk gave him advice & support the whole time when he was away.
      And welcomed him with open arms when he returned.

      That’s the kind of guy Cenk is.
      He never forgets who helped him build this thing.
      And he always shares in the spoils when they reach another level of success.
      I see that time & time again with that guy.

      Hell, Malcolm Fleschner, the producer you may see from time to time especially on Friday Post Games or Aggressive Progressives, used to work with Cenk in the mid-1990s when Cenk had his public access TV show called “The Young Turk”.
      Once this new “The Young Turks” thing built up years later here comes Cenk bringing Malcolm in to his rising company.

      Same thing with Steve Oh, a childhood friend of Cenk’s.
      Steve was some lawyer somewhere & then left it all to help out Cenk as “The Audio Guy” & on the business end as Chief Operating Officer amongst his many unofficial duties.

      People like Dave Rubin left on their OWN accord.
      Cenk would NEVER fire him even if he strongly disagreed with his stances.
      David Pakman left the network on friendly terms. David just wanted to build his brand independently.

      Even Jill Pike, the original female co-host, who left TYT in 2007 because she couldn’t survive in its struggling days was welcomed back on the panel many times years later (2014 was one example).
      And I know she’s welcome back any time she wants to show up because that’s how Cenk is.

      Go & look back at TYT’s excellent 2016 Election coverage watch the interplay between Cenk & Jimmy.
      Cenk’s pushing on his shoulder like good ol’ buddies when something big happened & they laugh it up.
      You can see the friendship as plain as day just watching that footage.

      I think TYT is the ONLY company where publicly disagreeing with your boss is WELCOMED!
      Cenk doesn’t want an echo chamber & he likes to be challenged.
      It makes this place a worthy source for political thought.
      Cenk was initially reluctant to BE a “Boss” but Jill Pike kept referring & deferring to him as a “Boss” so he took up the natural role.
      He doesn’t seem to get his jollies lording over others but is more of a collaborative guy who sees his role as just one part of a team.
      THAT’S why he’s not necessarily a “Boss” to people who work at TYT but more of a Friend.
      His job is to Captain this ship so that he AND his crew get the bounty.

      THAT’S why Jimmy spit on that stupid son-of-a-bitch.
      THAT’S why Ana called that jackass a “fat fuck”.
      And THAT’S why Cenk will always support THEM.
      Because ALL For ONE , ONE For ALL.
      They’re a TEAM.

      John Lucas

  39. Wow! I don’t think I could have reacted so calmly to anyone saying something like that to me, but sounds like this woman must be miserable and so unhappy in her life to go from 1 to 100 after someone politley asking her to pick up her pets mess. My experience is when people snap immediatly like this woman did it is anger and hurt inside her being redirected at a small incident that doesn’t merit the responce.

  40. I am from Jewish background and man, the amount of hate you get so randomly is unbelievable. I used to wear kippah, up to three years ago. You get eggs thrown at you. People yelling at you while driving off past you. You get even insulted in public. I was walking down the campus with my mates, talking and having a chat. Someone approached me, singled me out and yelled at me shut the fuck up. Everyone was confused. Racism runs so deep in especially Anti-semitism with European/Western culture (it is everywhere to a mild extent) that I don’t believe it would be dealt with, even in a thousand years.

  42. Ana, maybe try to come back at the with a question? That has been the greatest tactic my husband has taught me and it works. Amazingly, it works with all moods.
    You can be sarcastic : ‘Did you just call my dog a cunt?!’
    You can ask a question to get them to address their atrocious behavior : ‘what does Judaism have to do with cleaning up after yourself?’
    And my favorite :’what the fuck is your deal.’

  43. Ana and Cenk
    several things-
    I actually decided to become a member the day that I saw the RNC fiasco (FUCK ROGER STONE). Even though the video I saw was unfair to TYT and tried to paint them in a negative light, Cenk’s passion as well as that of Ana and the other hosts was apparent and was what ultimately convinced me to give TYT a try.

    Ana- I am so sorry that you had to go through that. When I first started at college I went to a VERY conservative catholic school (They offered me a full ride, so what the hell right?). At the time I was also trying to come to terms with the fact that I’m bisexual. I was also a staunch atheist. You can maybe see where this is going.
    When I first started telling people, I only told very close friends I had confidence in. There are certain prejudices that Bi males experience and I was trying to avoid that. Unfortunately (and I still don’t know how) word got out. Everyone also knew I was an atheist so I was already not thought of too highly. Once this got out, life was hell. Some people avoided me, others started rumors or told me what an abomination I was, and others tried to change me. Ultimately I voluntarily left (and gave up the full ride scholarship) because I just didn’t feel welcome or safe there.
    But, there is some light to this story. During my time there (two years) I had dozens of people, men and women, approach me and confide in me that they were confused about their sexuality. I also had many people approach me about depression and anxiety they were experiencing (I have both disorders). When I asked them why they approached me of all people, they told me it was because I was open about who I was (I didn’t feel like I was THAT open, but apparently they thought so) and was nonjudgmental. I convinced several people with the mental disorders to see a professional, and many started to improve afterwards. Some finally got on medications that they desperately needed. A few of the sexually confused people have gone on to embrace their identity and now live lives away from the cesspool of a college.

    My point is this: In our suffering, we can liberate others.

    While my situation at that place never improved, I did improve the lives of others. Of that I am certain. It didn’t fix anything for me, but knowing that I helped others come to terms with who they are is what truly kept me going and helped me to finish my last semester there.

    Ana, I can’t even imagine how you felt in that moment, let alone in the other bullshit incidences that you experienced (I love that you went over and repeatedly kicked that asshole who slapped your rear-end). My time at that college was over two years ago, but because of my experience I have become significantly more introverted and no longer am open about my faith (or lack of) and sexuality. In all honesty, watching you and Cenk has given me the confidence to start being me again. I’m now taking small steps toward embracing my identity. I know life can seem sometimes like what you’re doing has no point, or that people are getting worse. I can’t imagine how demoralizing that is especially in your line of work. I want you to know, though, that sharing your stories on TYT is a huge influence in my second coming-out.
    Sharing your stories helps us. Good can arise from evil. It just takes the right person, like you Ana.
    So thank you Ana.
    From the bottom of my heart, thank you.

    Cenk
    Regarding the RNC incident. Despite all the spin in the particular video I saw, what they couldn’t spin was that Roger Stone and Alex Jones weren’t actually arguing. What I mean is that they had no logical points and weren’t trying to make any case. What was apparent was that they were just trying to make you angry. Even though they succeeded in that, I was dumbfounded that you were able to maintain that rant-like (sorry, I know it has a negative connotation) tone and still be able to argue properly with them (the Saudi Arabia bit for example). I know of literally no one else that can be THAT pissed and still make good points. My first thought when I saw that was “I need to see what else this guy has to say”. Again, like above, it takes the right people, like you Cenk, to make good out of evil. Thank you for the wonderful work you do and the passion with which you do it. It is what got me here in the first place.

    1. @bullfrog21 You picked a good place & I’m grateful to be your fellow member.
      I love that about TYT too. They got heart & they got passion for justice.
      I was not AT ALL surprised when they raised up on Alex & his cronies.
      In fact, I was surprised that it didn’t go further. They had SERIOUS restraint obviously!

      And Alex’s little stunt BACKFIRED because people like you saw through their ruse & it only strengthened support for Alex’s intended rivals TYT.
      Reminds me of when Martin Bashir did that hatchet piece on Michael Jackson in 2003 & it only ended up making Michael new fans BECAUSE of it.
      They saw his humanity through the narrative smear just like you saw TYT’s humanity through the narrative smear.

      What you said was true.
      In our suffering, we can liberate others.

      You GOT TO go through something to learn the skill of Compassion.
      Going through ordeals shows you how it feels to be the outsider & how lonely that feels.
      You remember that pain & you wish to prevent or alleviate it for others because nobody should feel like that.
      Some people learn the wrong lesson when they have been beaten down & they pass the pain to others as they wish to become the Beater rather than the Beatee.
      But the opportunity is most prominently there to learn Compassion.
      And usually the ones who went through something often end up being the greatest people in the end.
      They end up being the most in touch with the human condition.

      I’m sorry you went through that foolishness in college.
      You would expect that ignorance in high school but college?? Wow.
      But in the end, your experience gave you the ability to be a lighthouse for others.
      And they gave you the respect & regard you SHOULD have had by default from your shunners.
      You came out better for it, man. You were a hero to those you helped.
      They ain’t gonna remember those shunners.

      Alex Jones & The Young Turks have paralleled each other since about the very beginning.
      They started at almost the exact same time.
      Both Alex Jones & TYT’s Cenk Uygur had public access TV shows in the mid 1990s.
      Both Alex Jones & TYT’s Cenk Uygur had false starts in their careers before the 2000s came along.
      Alex being fired from Austin, Texas’ KJFK-FM in 1999 & TYT’s Cenk washing out of Miami, Florida’s WAMI-TV in 2000.
      Both started radio shows in the Internet Era which made the transition from Old Media to New Media as they pioneered internet platforms like YouTube to create their media empires.
      Both have had MAJOR influence in defining the 21st Century’s political scene from their unique placement in the political spectrum—Alex on the “Right” & TYT’s Cenk on the “Left”.
      Even today, both now have fancy deluxe multi-panel background screens & sleek desks in their deluxe studios.
      Seriously, compare the sets. They’re very similar.

      It’s no surprise that both have interviewed each other on each other’s shows.
      AND it’s no surprise that both continue to be drawn together in conflict like positive charges to negative charges on a magnet.
      For The Young Turks, Alex Jones’ Infowars represents their evil bizarro world counterpart.
      While TYT tries to present facts & gives commentary hoping to make the world Progress…
      …Infowars presents lies/half-truths & gives conspiracy hoping to make the world Regress.

      They will ALWAYS be bound together.
      This thing seems like Destiny.
      But luckily for us, TYT will win in the long run.

      TYT is winning right now which is why Alex & the Infowars crew bumrushed TYT’s set.
      Alex knows “Nature Boy” Ric Flair’s mantra:
      “To Be The Man…WOO! You Gotta BEAT The Man!”
      Alex knows who “The Man” is & that’s why he tried to get some of TYT’s shine that day.
      Don’t be discouraged by the Trump anomaly. TYT is winning the overall picture.

      As TYT continues to rise & rise, expect Alex Jones & his crew to sustain their empire by attacking TYT.
      Half of these upstart political channels on YouTube lately are building their numbers by slapping TYT for clicks.
      All they’re doing is confirming who #1 is. I don’t think they fully realize that. Or maybe they do, who knows?

      Cenk COULD physically beat the hell out of Alex Jones if he wanted to.
      While Alex is no slouch in the strength department, Cenk is a very strong man physically.
      Instead Cenk factually beat Alex down while showing no fear as he got right up in his face shouting out those facts.
      I was impressed by that as well & you noticed how Alex shrunk back a little bit when Cenk got in his face.
      Alex don’t want none in a physical fight OR a rhetorical fight. That much was obvious.

      To use another famous pro wrestler’s saying “You go ONE on ONE with The Great One…make your monkey ass famous!”
      TYT will continue to make Alex Jones famous.

      John Lucas

  44. Ana my heart went out to you for your pain, and Cenk’s right, don’t let them win. You’re a voice for the voiceless and are needed in the day and age we live in. Mom told me the same thing about bullies as Jayar did when I was younger. She said “Remember, the best revenge is this: they have to be themselves. They have to wake up every morning, see their face in the mirror, and know how sad they really are.” That and we’ll totally all defend you here! Thank you for feeling okay to share something so personal- YOU are the reason I’m a TYT member.

  46. Thank you for the personal storys and a little insight into your lives, it’s why I pay the subsription! I really look up to you both and sending love to you Ana. I hope your fear of the outside world surpass and you come out stronger. Keep fighting the good fight!

  47. If only Ana had been wearing an HOA or police badge.

    Ana keeps getting bombarded with this unpleasantness, reinforcing a dark view of the world. Because of the nature of her job, and commuting, and an overall discontent out there, she will continue to be exposed to this ugliness. I hope she finds a way out, or a better way to deal with it.

    It’s even worse than what Ana is describing. She justifiably reminded this woman, about cleaning up, and the woman reacted as if Ana was trying to ‘control’ her or accuse her. But you can literally be minding your own business – walking or shopping or driving – and find yourself on the receiving end, of someone with a bug up their butts.

    You can kind of sympathize with those who become wealthy, and then want to shield themselves from the world, and are no longer able to relate. Who wants to participate in this mess, when you have the means to avoid it? People made fun of Kim Bassinger from wanting to stay in her house, but that was just her way of dealing with these threats.

    If I was ever super rich, you’re damn right it will go to my head. I’d probably donate more often to important causes, but at the same time will avoid human beings like the plague.

    Out in the real world, we’re in continual fight-or-flight mode. It’s appropriate when e.g. Ana is attacked on a hike. But most of the time, our lives and safety aren’t actually in danger. But we still react, as if it were.

    This is the source cruelty of office politics, because we implicitly feel like our survival is at stake. And sometimes it is, because if that other person gets more recognition than we do, or takes credit for our accomplishments, then the end of the road could be joblessness. I don’t blame this on mean people, for the most part. I blame it on Capitalism, wage labor, and the neurotic focus on hoarding wealth. Not healthy, for individuals or society.

    Fight or flight is even worse, for black Americans. Not only do they have to deal with systemic racism, along with whatever intentional racism (as opposed to alleged racism; there is lots of this) is left over, in the conscious minds of non-blacks. But also growing up, they have to deal with attacks on the way to school, from other blacks who need scapegoats to deal with their own miserable circumstances. Nothing but despair, for many of them.

    I’ve encountered racism, like everyone here. Sometimes from myself, sometimes from black Americans who were resentful that I was “taking one of theirs” (that’s the way my girlfriend described their attitudes), because I was dating a black woman. My family loved her, and supported the relationship; while her family were always uncomfortable with it, and tried to talk her out of it.

    Well, Alex Jones got what he wanted. He instigated, got the reaction he hoped for, and enough anti-TYT material to last him a year, at least. Win-win. For him.

    As far as realizing that other people have it worse, that shouldn’t invoke guilt. It should first invoke gratitude, that we aren’t homeless or constantly in danger of losing everything. But then, it should invoke action – donate to causes that have a chance of making a difference; or try to turn things around by being pleasant to people on social media, even when they seem to be attacking you. Falter sometimes, indulge in cruelty when you can’t control yourself, then embrace it & understand it, and try again.

    That’s the best we can do, until we can change our local and global environments.

    “We’ll drive them back into their caves.”

    This attitude in itself, is part of the problem. This kind of categorization, the labeling of the OTHER as savages that have to be dismissed and suppressed. The simplification of motives, the condemning of people instead of behavior, makes things worse. I’m sorry that TYT can’t see that, yet.

    “There’s really terrible people, out there.” That may be true, but a lot of what we’re experiencing, have environmental, economic roots. It’s a screwed up world, full of uncertainty and inequality and corruption, and neither Trump nor his supporters caused this. They’re reacting and adjusting to it, being played like fiddles, just as we are.

    Ana, I hope you feel better, and that the conference helps. It’s right before the weekend, so hopefully that you will give you lots of time to sleep in, and play & cuddle with Charlie & Christian.

  48. Ana. One of my college professors once came over here to Tokyo on a research trip and stopped to have coffee with me. I told here of some of the things that happened to me over here, and compared them to what used to happen to me as a little black girl growing up first in LA, then in Philly. The professor looked at me and said she would never forget how, after dreaming of getting tenure at an ivy league university, so many department heads and tenured professors would do their BEST to force her to leave the school. Wetting the floor they knew she’d use when coming out of class. Breaking into her office, stealing and hiding stuff. Gossiping. Going to the dean about her ‘attitude.’ She said for over a year she was an insufferable wife to her husband, trying to do her job while burning with rage everyday. She said the worst was the little conversations in her head that wouldn’t go away, little talks where she’d be telling these creeps off and winning. Little dramas she said, playing out daily.

    Little conversations! That part hit home with me.

    So she said she got over it when she reminded herself how much she loved certain things, and got busy with them. I followed her advice and, lo and behold, the shit these die-hard specimens pulled just rolled off me like water. That stuff started not sticking to the point that I didn’t even HEAR it or know it was happening.

    Now. That doesn’t mean ALL of it doesn’t stick, especially since the election of the swamp-thing-in chief I’ve unfortunately been the recipient of some pretty gross words, gestures and staring. sometimes it’s from something I said, sometimes it’s from just being there minding my own business. It doesn’t matter to gross people, THEY find their own reasons to start. When it sticks I have to do something special that I like very much. Recently I’ve taken to coloring in my Ruth Bader Ginsburg coloring book with some super duper Koh-I-Noor woodless color pencils.

    In the Harry Potter story, Professor Remus Lupin teaches Harry to perform the extremely difficult Patronus charm by concentrating on the one happiest memory of his life. I can so relate to this because focusing on happiness is EXACTLY what my old professor from the Japanese Studies Department at the University of Pennsylvania taught me over that coffee so many years ago.

    As much as we want to please our mate or others we love, I think it’s most important to please yourself first so there will be a lovelier YOU to please the ones you love with. The old Chinese story of the king with a wife and two mistresses illustrates this: KING to mistress #1 – ‘How much do you love me?’ MISTRESS #1 – ‘More than the sun!’ KING to mistress #2 – ‘How much do you love me?’ MISTRESS #2 – ‘More than the moon!’ KING to wife – ‘How much do you love me?’ WIFE – ‘Not more than myself.’ KING – “Before I kill you, say why you love yourself more than me.’ WIFE – ‘Because without loving myself first there would be no ME with which to love YOU.’ And the king dropped his sword and fell into her arms forever.

    When people see you are deeply happy, fighting a good progressive fight that stems from care of yourself and others, they can either shorten their own lives with vices or join you. Yes many ARE young so that should give you hope, not despair, as they are the ones who have a way better chance of correcting themselves than their decrepit old mentors.

    Seeing a beautiful lady like you, Ana, turning away from them in disinterest, is their reward AND their punishment. You get busy with some happy and let THEM chew on some bitter dregs.

    Super love to Charlie!!!

  49. A neighbor of mine did something even better, he double barreled the fucking dog when the owner refused to pick the shit up and got away with it.

    That is how you deal with bullies.

  50. Sorry that happened to you Ana, I wish there was something I could do to help. Just remember you’re not alone, stand up tall, take it on the chin and remember that you are better than those people. Their hate affects you and all good people but it is THEIR problem.
    Sending you love from France – Purcell.

  51. Huh, this was a pleasant surprise, finding Ana here on Wednesday’s Post Game. I misunderstood one of her posts, and thought the Opposition conference, was Wednesday.

    I’ll comment on this PG, later. Ana, go ahead, put everything aside, and enjoy the conference. Do some laughing, and maybe some crying about your recent experiences, with people you share common passions with.

    Have fun, get back safe. Remember that we fans love who you are, and fully support your mistakes and your efforts to keep your humanity, in a world that constantly tempts you, to stop caring.

  52. This is exactly why a lot of people didn’t come out and leet people know they were gay . I graduated high school in 2001 and it was still really bad for people. I’m sure it is today for certain people. I just thought it might help people understand why that happens. Those people choose to stay in their house. You doon’t want to do that, Ana. Come out and play with the rest of us.

  53. Hugs for Ana! Much respect for being public with this, even if this is technically members only. I really wish I could sit down and talk with you about these things you’re going through and struggling with, because I can relate. And sometimes it helps to have people who can understand, and completely comprehend what you’re going through, because of similar experiences. Just know that your feelings are 100% valid, and you’re allowed to feel them. When it comes to your mental health, there is no “Oh, but they have it worse, so I shouldn’t feel this way.” No, it’s not a competition! Your worst experience might be a walk in the park for someone else, true, but it’s still your worst! And you’re allowed to react accordingly, and feel what you need to feel. So don’t let anyone, including yourself, invalidate your own feelings. Feel them, and then if you can move on after that great! If not, feel them again, and again, until you can. And if you never get through/over it, that’s okay too.

    Peace and Love

  54. Once , when I was young, a nazi punched me in the face, I was also walking my dog. I got so angry, I’m 152 cm, that I punched him back, and then some more until he run crying to hide. Then I called the police, by that time they came I was in chock and crying, The police told me that that man was one of the nazi leaders here in Gothenburg where I live. Hinside I’m very glad I beat the shit out of him, because he never got prosecuted but I like to think he will think twice before hitting another woman, even if she is short. Keep you chin up Ana, you are punching this people in their face every day through work, what if they if they call us cunts, we all have one of those by nature , coward on the other hand, never!!!!!

  55. Denis315

    you’re obviously a member and you joined just so that you can say the ugly things that you say.

    The smallness of your heart mind and the ugliness of your soul is on display for all to see.

    Why not be brave, bold,decisive and put your real name on this account and own the ugly words you say from behind a computer screen or mobile device.

    You are a coward you’re ugly inside your soul the place were it truly counts. I’m sure you’ve heard this before in your life.

    I cannot imagine what you would have to go through in order for you to spend money to join TYT just so that you can be so horrible,so ugly how sad to be you to do this in order to feel important.

    That you would feel free to say and do ugly things to people you’ve never met and do not know. The fact that TYT obviously believes in your right to free speech shows they are better people and a better organization than many.

    Dennis take the money that you use to harm people and go see a therapist go see someone who can help you put your head and your heart back into a good place. You are the rare kind of vapid borderline soulless human that depending on your age may not even be salvageable.

    But know this you’re not invisible you do have an address you do have a way of being touched so keep your distance and while you’re here shut your mouth pay your money watch a show and shut your mouth.

    Do you want to see you has freedom of speech but you have the freedom of not renewing his contract. Just my two cents worth.

    Jayar from the bottom of this old Alaskan woman’s heart I want to thank you for your beautiful words of support to Ana this is why I enjoy seeing you and hearing from you more often.

    Ana sweet spirit,please try going back to yoga, or meditation classes you need to be able to find a way to renew your spirit on the fly because you are like a comet blazing through the sky and my dear you don’t deserve to burn out.

    You’re responsible to yourself for great self care, no one can afford vacations so being able to utilize guided imagery, yoga, meditation and breathing techniques to help you through those moments to find your center your balance your place of peace.

    I know you have a grandmother and her mother but I feel close to you and this old woman has endured much and I found those things to be helpful.

    PS take some kickboxing classes to it helps balance out being pissed off you keep your body in great shape and helps with self-defense.

    Much love from the old Alaskan woman.

  56. great postgame
    chin up Ana; so sorry this happened to you. you are so much stronger than those haters.
    Cenk, loved your story, re: tennis coach. maybe a great response like that would be appropriate for anyone in a situation like Ana’s!
    i’m going to use it for sure!

  57. Please, Please, Please I know this is members only but I think this needs to be seen by the world so if you could make it available to be posted on FB, etc… I believe it would be a great teaching moment.

  58. Great job to Jayar and Cenk and Ana in this talk. As a white male raised on the border of Mexico I have experience a little bit of racism. To which I was only saddened by the lack of human decency in the scenario. I’m thankful for it now because I can have at least a microcosm of understanding to the inhumanity of this world that so many before me have suffered. (Have suffered/are suffering)

  59. Hmmm I’m really trying hard to give you the benefit of the doubt that you were trying to be funny with your “Jew nose”. I’m failing miserably though.

  60. Excellent feedback.

    When I became a member last year I had to go through all the postgames and the glossary to get caught up on the references. A fun assignment, no doubt, but not everyone has either the time nor the inclination to do so.

    1. no sorry who cares they always going to be like that stop shit on cops when your side does something you guys don’t call it out black people belong on farms picking up corn

      1. Ugh. Dude, I don’t know who you are or what you’re going through but you really need step back and realize even typing shit like that is not cool. Shame on you.

        Is there any way to report comments like this?

        1. lets not report. he’s a sad little man, let him spit out his hate for us to see and not give him any special attention by reporting him just so he can feel special later.

  64. Not all members have been with TYT for a long time, so it would be helpful when making reference to past events (Ana being assaulted on a hike, people disrupting a show) that you provide–if only briefly–the factual contest that you are making reference to.

  65. I wonder if one can get assault charges pressed on themselves for throwing dog turds at someone who doesn’t clean up after their dogs (and who shouts fuck off to supposed Jewish cunts) …because it would be worth it methinks…

    …big shout out to all the Jewish cunts out there btw, keep on keepin’ on!!

  66. You grow up real fast when you first get called the N-word as a little kid. I understood what it meant and what kind of person would call a child that, but losing your virginity so early to the ways of this world burned itself into my memory. That somebody could make up their minds to hate you on sight…especially when your skin can be seen from a distance.

  67. I’m so sorry that happened to you Ana. Remember not to fear, or else they win. I understand that you have had a culmination of bad experiences throughout the last couple of years and you’re thereby tempted to second guess every adventurous decision that you make. However, step back each time that happens and ask yourself, is my concern coming from a rational place? is my gut telling me something is wrong based on some intuition that has subconsciously arisen or is this just the result of some engrained predisposition that has slowly taken root in my perception of the world over the years. imo, a good idea would be to channel the frustration and angst that comes from this fear through impact training and read the book ‘the gift of fear’ by Gavin de Becker in order to fully harness your human instincts and then go out into the world with a true sense of agency and a resilience to hardship unlike any other. I wish you the best Ana.

    Final note:
    You’d be surprised to find out that most people out there are very reasonable, hardworking and pure-hearted. I think the best way to combat non-violent verbal hostility is with a cool composure and reasoned response. I know i’m a nobody, but my two cents are that every second that you can work on your emotional temperament is paid back in droves at some other point in life. Please don’t interpret that as criticism on your emotional temperament, I believe this to be generally good advice for all people.

  68. how do you not start every comment about Trumps Afgan speech and Phx Rally with the words… ” in a giant head fake and attempt to distract the public and the media from Trump’s incompetence and support of Nazism…”
    I don’t understand…???

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