TYT Hour 1 Aug 17, 2017

In The Young Turks Hour 1 - On Demand by Gigi Manukyan60 Comments

Cenk. Tragedy in Barcelona. Trump calls confederate statues “beautiful.” Trump rhetoric influenced by white supremacists. Most Republicans approve of Trump’s Charlottesville response. Bannon interview backfires. 7 Trump supporters stage weak Seattle protest. Scared Nazi strips his shame away.

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  2. Honestly, right now the situation may escalate to be so dire that I genuinely think that the paradox of tolerance should re applied

    Paradox of tolerance: Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. — In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be unwise. But we should claim the right to suppress them if necessary even by force; for it may easily turn out that they are not prepared to meet us on the level of rational argument, but begin by denouncing all argument; they may forbid their followers to listen to rational argument, because it is deceptive, and teach them to answer arguments by the use of their fists or pistols. We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant. We should claim that any movement preaching intolerance places itself outside the law, and we should consider incitement to intolerance and persecution as criminal, in the same way as we should consider incitement to murder, or to kidnapping, or to the revival of the slave trade, as criminal.”

    ― Karl R. Popper, The Open Society and Its Enemies

  3. Cenk, you need to stop doing the impressions of Trump acting like a child. I get it and I hear you but people are going screenshot you in mid-impression looking like a fool and try to use it to discredit you. They will say you are no different than Alex Jones. Which of course is absurd, but a goofy snapshot of you sure doesn’t help your case. If you want to come of as credible to more people you gotta stop this.

    1. i watch the show for the impersonations, cenk is brilliant at it and he is one of the funniest ppl around, without the funnies, tyt is only half as good.

    2. Legit anyone can take goofy-looking pictures of anyone, it doesn’t discredit them, unless you are a whole hardy superficial asshole.

  4. Thanks for the feedback Lou! If you find this interesting you should read The Intention Experiment by Lynn McTaggert and look into the water experiments of Masaru Emoto. Science has been making some fascinating advancements in this area. Happy seeking!

  6. There is one thing Trump did mention that I think is valid. There were people there non-white supremacist, (I think there were a few) that were there to protest the taking down of the statue. I disagree with taking the statue down, because to me it would be a talking point, in a park, to discuss our history and have a face to show, possibly a child, the horrible acts of the man depicted as a statue. The reminder of how easily a culture could so easily be so ethically immoral that it leads to death, violence and the unappreciative nature of human life. There is another thing Trump discussed, and that was Washington owning slaves. I will never look at our currency the same. Although I don’t want a statue taken down, that opens the door to a very important learning experience, I do think we should take him off our currency as i do not feel comfortable carrying around the image of a slave owner that supported such an atrocity.

    1. I love you Cenk! It is so rare to hear an American news commentator speak passionately about the dangers of religion. I am sure that you receive grief for such comments. Thank you for your honesty and dedication to making the world a better place.

  7. As for Bannon, he’s right that trade is a critical issue. He also said something about there being an inflection point 5-10 years down the road, after which the U.S. won’t recover. He’s right about that. We have to get back to balanced trade, and our trade with China is a big part of that. Are they waging a trade war on us? You be the judge, but we can’t go on having half-trillion dollar trade deficits year after year. The trade deficit is the deficit that matters.

    You fix this with an international minimum wage and uniform tariffs that are high enough to encourage local production. This is in everyone’s interest, even China’s, because they are currently losing jobs to countries with cheaper wages. Now is the time to fix the problem.

    Bannon also said he’s fighting Wall Street and the militarists over this. No love lost for Bannon, but we should be fighting Wall Street and the militarists over this, too. The only winners in the free trade scheme are very wealthy people in the financial industry and arms makers. Right now, our main paying export is arms, either directly or indirectly through military operations.

    You don’t have to be a racist or a xenophobe to understand the fundamental economics here, to see where it’s going, or what’s necessary to fix it. And you don’t have to be anti-immigrant or believe some racial nationalist propaganda to want to end the trade deficit and move productive jobs back to the U.S. Beyond that, it’s a huge loss that the Democrats let Trump and the Republicans steal the trade issue from them. A real solution supports working people, but the Republicans only think of this as a way to get tax cuts for rich people. It’s the most pure demagoguery we will probably ever see.

  8. Too much material about Trump and not enough about Republicans and policy. We were all outraged about Trump before the election. There’s nothing you can say about him that would provide new information. He’s just pursuing Republican policy. You are ignoring the gaping holes they are shooting in the fabric of society to focus on a shred of damage flapping in the wind.

  9. Waiting to pick up a pizza, I overhear a conversation on the monuments. Husband saying we should take them down. Wife saying whats next, getting rid of Gettysburg? Husband is stopped dead in his tracks, looks at her, thinks, and asks “How would you do that? Its a place.” Then he goes onto explain that the monuments were honoring the leaders of the losing side of the war, that they honored defenders of slavery and should be moved to a museum, so that they are not forgotten, but not put in a place of honor either.

    I get home to find two posters on Facebook also making the Gettysburg argument. There’s no logic, no free thinking with that side. Just the guy I listen to said this, so it makes sense.

  10. There really is something humorous about a rabid atheist declaring he has “the answer” … just like the rabid televangelists have “the answer” I used to be annoyed by the Cenk rants, now I either laugh or roll my eyes. Standard Cenk being Cenk and that ain’t going to change.

    But seriously though – these people who do these horrible terrorist attacks are “broken” and they’ll use whatever justification they have handy to do what they wanted to do in the first place. Amy Goodman interviewed the leader of the group that helps people leave domestic terrorist hate groups (forgot their name) that got defunded by Trump (thanks dumbass!) and it rang true to me that they are simply broken, and they need help which is how he tried to address the problem. These people who feel abandoned, left out and discarded are going to cling to anything that gives meaning and power, however negative it is.

    1. I always wondered how Grace feels being around and hearing Cenk and Ana, who are always ragging on her religion. Always calling her beliefs “fairy tales”. Those are her friends and they obviously do not respect her beliefs.

      1. Anyone who truly believes will just smile when their beliefs are called fairy tales. If they have severe doubts, though, they will get angry and upset by it, when it is they who have the doubts, and it is their doubts that upset them.

    2. I said the same thing JLavin. How is you screaming at me that I shouldn’t believe my religion any different than a religious person screaming “you need to believe my religion”?! Smh Cenk I beg you to stop doing that. I know you love to proclaim that you “aren’t religious” but screaming at the top of your lungs that everyone else should be that way as well is not very progressive of you! You always profess your love of the constitution. Well our constitution is not anti-religion, it’s freedom of religion. Let people practice whatever religion they want, so long as they aren’t hurting anyone.

  11. In regards to Cenk’s discussion of terrorists and how to respond to them and their actions, how about we employ one of the most powerful ways to influence people and their behavior? That is, through example. Unfortunately we’re not the shining example we could and should be, but we have to go with what we have and that’s not all bad by any means. We could start by removing all or most U.S. military from these contentious parts of the world, and stop selling them arms. We could save tons of money and instead, bomb them with things that would make their lives better. Things like food, contraception, tools, ideas, and education. We would end up with way fewer enemies who would do us harm, and have a more peaceful and just world with opportunities for all. We would be, I guess, a “kinder and gentler nation”.

    1. I agree with you completely, but someone who runs the US empire might counter with this argument. Have you considered that the US is not the only country with arms and money? If the US does not arm them, does not help them wage war, will they stop, or will they find other patrons? When running a global empire, you do not always take pieces on the board because you need them. Sometimes you just need your enemies not to have them.

      The US empire does not need middle east oil. It is glutted with oil from Canada and South America. It does however need to control it so that no one else has it and then uses it to dominate the world. The US empire did not fear one powerful middle eastern state, but it did fear a united middle east. Kissinger saw to it that that could not happen in the 70s. Israel is funded to make sure it never happens. Arming them and allowing them to carry out their terror keeps them in the fold, at bay. It’s much easier to do that when the country is run by a totalitarian system that allows no dissent. You encourage democracy and feed the people and truly act as friend to them, and there’s no guarantee they’ll continue to do what you want.

      Now, let’s say the US empire stops doing arming them anyway, and starts dropping food and building houses and hospitals. The defender of US empire might say that another power, maybe China, would simply step in and take over that role, as they are currently doing all across Eastern Africa. Then those totalitarians will serve their interests, not ours. And Will they continue to allow you to be charitable to countries that might threaten their dominance? Probably not. No more than the US tolerated the USSR backing Cuba with food aid even before they threatened to give them arms.

  13. I also love Cenk and supporting TYT but I also disagree with some solid assertions made about religion. That and tech. I don’t know enough about Islam to speak on that, but as an active pagan the goats blood thing and other things said on the show are innacurate. (I’m even vegan) For me, deity is not above me or some dude chilling in the sky. It’s a frequency to tap into. It lines up with bio entanglement quantum mechanic theory, but that’s an ear bug for another day.

    1. Hi FC,
      I liked your take on this, especially your reference to “bio entanglement quantum mechanic theory”, which I hadn’t heard of before. (I don’t typically study in this vein – I’m a tea man – but I read up on it and it reminded me of Edward Lorenz’s “Butterfly effect” theory, except to expand on the theoretical paradigm so that it includes the possibility of *some* unobservable or unmeasurable ‘non-linear’ effect.

      Fascinating stuff, and totally fits with my own expanded model of a “Higher Power”. My framework on how we all engage this tracks more closely with the ‘Three Blind Men and the Elephant’ story (Kipling?), and how Humans are compelled to resolve The Unknown by assigning a paradigm based on The Familiar. Kaspische?

      Thanks for your interesting post!
      Lou

  14. Failure to separate spirituality from religion is counter-productive. Instead of telling people “there is no God” try to open their intellects to understanding how the politics of religions is used to control and manipulate, and help people understand how to liberate their faith from dogmatic belief.

    Religions are the way humans politicize spiritual belief, in order to exercise power and control over other people.

    Why this is effective: there is a yearning inside us to seek connection to the spiritual. Sometimes that yearning has a mild expression, like the pleasure of pausing to be mesmerized by the beauty and tranquility of sunlight playing among a tree’s green leaves. Other times that yearning can grow to desperation, like the despair of someone who feels their life has no meaning and seeks a reason to believe otherwise.

    “In the depths of your hopes and desires likes your silent knowledge of the beyond. And, like seeds dreaming beneath the snow, your heart dreams of spring. Trust the dreams, for in then is hidden the gate to eternity.” (Kahlil Gibran)

    Unfortunately, because we ARE humans, there have always been predators among us who will take advantage and exploit our spiritual yearning. These mountebanks say “follow me, and I will connect you to God.”

    “Give us each day our daily Faith, but deliver us, dear God, from Belief.” (Aldous Huxley)

    PS – human religions are not God’s fault.

  15. Thank you. The constant negativity wears at the soul, but still thank you. Warriors of virtue need to stop this insanity before it gets further out of hand. Much love.

  17. Trump was talking about the time Styr, the magnar of Thenn, let Olly live to tell the Night’s Watch about the Wildlings raiding the local villages.. #NOONEUNDERSTAAAAAAAAAANDS

  18. Accomplishment: an example:

    George Washington liberated his country from a despot.

    Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov, a.k.a. Lenin, liberated his country from a despot.

    Adolph Hitler liberated his country from a despot…by suicide.

  19. There is Truth underneath the surface of events outlined in certain inspired texts of so-called ‘religions’. Beyond the personality delusions and the manipulation of various documents, there is always the science of sound and quantum physics that can educate anyone to the basics of G.eometry O.f D.ivinity. A place to look. Provable. Common Sense Science. Word. Light ON!

  20. Cenk, you’re a cynic at times but when it gets serious I am totally with you. You are absolutely right with your opinion towards religion and politics. Religion is a real problem. Religion is a fiction and at worst it leads to slaughter and bloodshed.

  21. Hi Cenk,
    You ran off the rails today at 14:40 of Hour 1 today.

    You’re WAY OFF the path toward the goal of opening hearts and minds when the first precept of your “solution” is that “Religions are WRONG”!

    You’re a smart Fella; think about the practical outcome of your approach. Will it open up ANY consideration of another’s point of view? Or, will it cause those who you’ve just castigated to move CLOSER to fundamentalism in reaction to your attack, simply because that is the belief system to which they’ve been acculturated?

    You have made your own favorite mistake of ‘false equivalents’, in seeing the choice as completely binary: between Religion vs Reason. How do you explain the foundational contributions by the great patriots in our history, who were ALSO men of Religion?

    Even if the focus of your condemnation is strictly aimed at Fundamentalism, many who would characterize themselves so would still grant you *some* wiggle room for open discussion when it comes to the more challenging edicts of any religion, such as the Bible’s allowance for selling one’s own children into slavery (Exodus 21:7), or the Death sentence demanded by the offense of working on the Sabbath (Exodus 35:2), or for football fans, the act of touching the skin of a dead pig as an indictment as ‘Unclean’ (Leviticus 11:7), or the sin of weaving garments from two different threads (Deuteronomy 22:9).

    Instead, you immediately torpedo any chance of finding détente by conflating a millennia-old agenda into ‘prima facie’ evidence that the whole barrel is rotten. Talk about small, binary thinking!

    What may be even worse, is that the network you’ve built into a no-nonsense voice of reason has been threatened by your own dogmatic beliefs indicting ALL Religions! If YOU can’t accept the possibility that progress is NOT always achieved wholly as the result of the Mind, Might, and Will of Mankind, then at least don’t try to build a platform that claims a goal of Peace for All, while you’re standing behind your own pulpit.

    You might allow for the possibility of a bit of Mystery in your paradigm, Cenk. It makes for a World that’s much more interesting (and less combative) than relying solely on what we THINK we perceive with our limited senses, and an ironbound imagination.

    Peace Out.

    Lou B.
    San Francisco

    1. Religion is humanity’s first attempt at reason. Obviously, it has many flaws. Dogma and Faith replace Questions and Reason and it definitely served the purpose of improving humanity.
      As we grow, we will put away childish things.

    2. As an artist, I find a lot of inspiration from religious stories and ideas. One of the most influential books I’ve read on the creative process is actually a book of theology by Dorothy L. Sayers. Some of my favorite music is spiritual and even overtly religious. I can appreciate the emotional importance of spirituality in person’s life. But, let’s not delude ourselves by thinking that society is improved by religion. Religion is merely a tool used to tap into the unknown but it is an outdated tool. Mythology and folklore is something early civilization used to explain the mysteries of the world because they didn’t have more developed means of comprehending the world around them. In a modern society with science, philosophy, and academia we need religion as much as we need a stone tablet in the age of the internet.

      As for mystery – it seems you are confusing mystery with mysticism. Wonder for the unknown is a driving motivator for science, philosophers, and academics. That is why they do what they do. They wonder about those things and try to understand them through research and contemplation. Merely accepting that ancient tales of deities and magic are the reason for the great mysteries is actually dismissive of the true wonder of the unknown mysteries of our unfathomable and mysterious universe.

      Religion has played a role in many important and influential people’s lives. It can be used for moral guidance just as it can be used to justify moral depravity (I’m currently reading a book of sermons published in 1853 for masters to teach their slaves about Jesus). But, there is not a single practical human advance that has stemmed from religious doctrine. All technology, innovation, or progressive social structure is based on challenging traditional thought, not on staying stuck in past ideas of worship and folklore. If we relied on religion for human advancement we’d still be living in caves worshipping clouds and solving problems with blood sacrifices.

      Finally, (sorry for the long winded reply) to address the notion that ending religion would end terrorism, I’m actually in agreement with you. I don’t think it would have much impact at all. First, the idea of ending religion is ludicrous as anything other than, at best, a long term, multi-generational journey toward enlightenment and not some attainable short term possibility. Second, humanity will find all new ways to justify their divisions. Race, property, national identity, gender, wealth, sports team, shirt color, or whatever other thing that can use to claim some unmerited sense of supremacy over others. The only way to “end” terrorism is if we encourage empathy and humility. If all of us can just ourselves as harshly as we judge others. And, if we, as the self-professed strongest nations on earth, learn something from that ancient spiritual prophet who said something about “turning the other cheek” (or, as Cenk said, The Marshall Plan). One day someone has to stop fighting and start healing. It won’t be the weak because they will just be run over if they stop. It must be the strong that stop fighting, accept their may be some blowback, and embrace the potential for healing.

  22. Cenk, I love to listen to you and I support TYT but as a practicing muslim who studied Islamic theology and jurisprudence for more than 5 years… You really should educate yourself in religious studies just a little bit more. You have very solid knowledge when it comes to legal issues and we can see it. When it comes to religious science, you look like you have absolutely no idea what you are talking and especially when it comes to Islam. There is no Mohammed going to a mountain talking to God (we don’t believe in an anthropomorphic God), there is no land taking, there is no goat blood in a mosque for Gods favor (that’s pagan practice and idolatry… prohibited in islam) or wtv… As someone who studies these things, what are you talking about ?

    1. Could you explain what you are referring to when you mention “religious science”? Is there a peer review system to make sure theories hold up under examination by neutral third parties with expertise in the field? Honestly, I am curious to know more if you could provide any resources for further reading. A quick (and lazy) Google search primarily brings up Christian Science and metaphysics. Thanks.

  23. Thank you, Cenk, for condemning the stupidities and evils of the Abrahamic religions generally.

    It is my firm opinion, backed up by historical fact, for example, that, without the wellspring of vicious anti-Semitism in the hearts and minds of stupid and cowardly “believing” European Christians, the Holocaust would never have happened, because Hitler would have had no base upon which to draw in the perpetration of his evil horrors. The hatred is the same, whether Christian, Islamic, or Jewish. It would be the same from whatever source. Hatred is hatred, and should have NOTHING to do with religion, and fundamentalism of any stripe is STUPID AND DANGEROUS.

    Whatever happened to simple charity, that which Paul identifies as greater than religion and greater than the hope in one’s heart? Actual CHARITY is a true good, the ultimate good, in my view, way beyond, and far greater than, the presumed “goodness” of ANY faith.

  25. Whenever the matter of Trump’s dishonest father and his apparent Nazi sympathies is brought up, even though the man was found guilty of racist renting policies and penalized for them, Trump declares the story completely false. Could it be that this is what is ultimately behind his assertion that there are some “fine people” among the white supremacists, and that Trump’s views constitute nothing more than a desperately defensive measure, designed to keep him from having to acknowledge that he is descended from nothing higher than European trash? It would be hard for anyone to acknowledge that his own father has been other than a “fine” person. It would be MUCH too much for Trump’s very fragile ego, I do believe. In his abetting the stupid and monstrous racists in Charlottesville, Trump is himself a racist . . . and a Nazi sympathizer. That he should be impeached and thrown out of office is unquestionable at this point.

  26. Sadly, I’m not that surprised that such a large percentage of Republicans said that Trump has adequately addressed the Charlotte protests. It’s “white fragility” – they feel so damn uncomfortable, they just want everyone to stop talking about it.
    Plus a healthy dose of ignorance and too much conservative media influence. They are done with this national conversation before it’s even started.

  29. Re: Bannon — it totally is 3-D chess. If Trump fires Bannon now, to the alt-right base it looks like he’s caving to liberal pressure, and the alt-right movement (which is what Bannon truly cares about) takes a HUGE blow. But if this story comes out that supports the “Bannon-is-leaker” narrative and also not super racist (calling alt-right a bunch of clowns), and Trump fires him after THAT, the alt-right gets to say that Trump still supports them because he got rid of his poser alt-right chief adviser.

  30. That religion is false is your BELIEF Cenk and stating that it is a FACT does a disservice to the honesty and openness which you subscribe to. I am a Christian believer and that does not mean that I throw rationality out the door. I am also not a scholar so I cannot effectively argue much of the sentiment in the Old Testament.
    I do know that Christianity is a faith based on relationship – that is, my relationship to the God who created the universe. It sounds overwhelmingly unscientific but the Christian journey can be a journey of amazement, and understanding which in the end can lead to wisdom and peace ( indeed that peace which passes understanding because it occurs in times of deepest distress)
    Those “christians” who espouse prosperity for those who believe, who are bigoted, who condemn others, who proclaim righteousness and have no humility- have all done a great disservice to the faith and Jesus’ gospel.
    Two books to start with (from self proclaimed atheists who were led to Christianity by rational thought) are: Mere Christianity by CS Lewis and The case for Christ by Lee Strobel.
    I am thankful for your insights and logic and very much enjoy you and all the other panelists. A request- as you would not accuse all Muslims or Christians of being radical, of precipitating horrific acts of violence- so please do not accuse these groups of believing in falsehoods and fairy tales and thus delegitimizing them all together. Might there not be an actual reason that millions of people live in faith?

  31. Trumpeter fire: the nazi and confederate flags the white supremacists carry in Virginia or wherever are the flags of Losers. Hitler and the Nazis were defeated as well as the confederates. The symbolism is appropriate!

  32. For the love of god Cenk, stop saying that these extremists are extremists because they are losers and they don’t want to blame themselves. You’re straight up wrong and making the problem worse!

    They’re in a blind rage because 1: their leaders aren’t representing them, 2: their economy is in shambles and their opportunities have been robbed from them(including education) and 3: they’re being economically exploited by powers abroad and from within.

    Look at those conditions again. That’s the same conditions for the rise of the nazis in post-ww1 Germany. It was just as true for the Germans then as it is for Americans now. They’re able to see their lives are miserable due to powers beyond their control, and they’re too uneducated and angry to do find a way to rise up out of their indentured servitude.

    And it doesn’t help when Cenk just oversimplifies things, says they’re losers, and blames them. It’s the same as what happened in post WW1, and it’s especially counterproductive coming from someone who has been blessed with so, so many more opportunities than they have.

    2. Very well stated and very true.

      This problem needs SOLUTIONS not victim-shaming.

      And yes, the idiots who succumb to joining hate groups are victims. They are victims of an economic system that has exploited the hell out of working class people, massively redistributed their wealth into the offshore bank accounts of the .1%, and left them feeling no sense of hope for a dignified life earning a living wage. They know the American Dream has disappeared, and they are believing the wrong people about WHY it disappeared. They are mad as hell for good reason. Unfortunately, they are mad at the wrong people.

  33. Cenk, you’re talking about a substantially revamped and funded educational system… I’ve always believed that should be our #1 priority. It would only take 1 generation to affect change, but that begs the questions as to how? Who creates the system?

  34. Cenk is wrong about ignoring nazi’s. 7 of them may have protested the Lenin statute but hundreds came to Charlottesville and when they come to Portland they always bring at least a couple hundred. He is wrong on his pacifist stance yet again.

  35. I get that the terrorism stories are important, but I just feel like each one goes 20 minutes because Cenk adds the same damn caveats and section about double-standards every time. I wish they’d program a bit less for first-time Youtube clip viewers, and more for their peeps. Cause these stories get really long, and the actual stories are only the first 6-7 minutes.

  36. Cenk said at first he didn’t care what the ideological reasons were for the terrorist attack in Barcelona, then almost immediately asserted an exchange of ideas is the only way to get to the heart of the matter to facilitate any mutual resolution.
    He positively invokes God many times every day. I heard four tonight during the first hour, but was also cooking dinner at the time so probably missed a few. He’s usually good for a half dozen, minimum, you know, being an atheist and all.

  37. Cenk has officially said that in order to end terrorism, we have to end religion. I’m very curious to know what measures he would be in favor of taking to accomplish that.

    1. I’m curious do you think Terrorism will end with religion existing? I would agree with Cenk but i’m not sure its actionable.

      1. I don’t think terrorism will ever end because you can’t wipe out the idea of using violence to achieve ideological goals. It’s tempting to say that if only Islam/religion didn’t exist, then we wouldn’t ever see terrorism. That may be the case for much terrorism that exists today, but I disagree with the notion that without religion, the world will ipso facto be a less violent place.

        1. You’re right of course. The US conducts terrorism on a massive scale, all the while calling it a war against terrorism that just happens to murder hundreds of civilians (oops!) on a monthly – or sometimes weekly – basis. The reason our resources are used to make war in the Middle East are not based on anyone’s religious values. It’s always about power: who gets to make the decisions, who gets to make the profits for services provided, who gets to be on the A-list for kickbacks from the “allied” governments/rebellions. Religion becomes a convenient backdrop to use when power-hungry imperialist powers don’t want to say the ugly truth about themselves.

  38. Trump has no authority to condemn terror-by-vehicle attacks in other places when he supports the same attacks in America. His commentary will not only fall on deaf ears, he will be seen for what he is: an opportunistic hypocrite.

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