TYT Old School July 6, 2017

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Cenk Uygur, Michael Shure, Brett Erlich, & John Iadarola talk tv shows, fake news, Russia investigation, popular movies and more.

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  2. rewatchable movies:

    anything by Pixar–esp Ratatouille
    anything by Quentin Tarantino, including the Tony Scott/Tarantino movie True Romance
    most things by George Lucas: Star Wars 4,*5*, 6, Indiana Jones
    anything by Hayao Miyazaki
    anything by Guillermo del Toro– esp Pan’s Labyrinth

  3. I am guilty of some how managing to avoid watching “A Christmas Story”. What can I say? My mom failed me. One of my best friends who has seen EVERYTHING, hasn’t seen “Shawshank Redemption”. Also, I only just saw the entirety of “The Green Mile” like a year ago.

  4. ENOUGH ABOUT VACUOUS, POINTLESS & EMPTY CELEBRITY/MOVIE/TV CULTURE. YOU KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE GOTTEN RID OF THEIR TV’S A DECADE AGO AND HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT AND DON’T CARE TO KNOW ANYMORE ABOUT IT.

  5. You’re attacked by everybody because every group hates hearing what some people honestly think of them

  6. Grated I’m a female but the one movie everyone has been stunned I’ve never watched is Dirty Dancing and I AM SO GLAD I can say that ?

  7. BTW, that TYT Old School banner with the American flag that pops up for introductions would make a killer skateboard graphic! Just sayin’! DO IT!!!

  9. Dude! John, that’s pretty much my exact cry trigger (not that kind), self sacrifice and all that.
    I love it.

  10. This cracked me up.
    Really great question, though:
    Which movies are actually good that everybody says they’re good?
    Many used to be good IN THEIR TIME, but you just can’t watch them any more:

    Godfather
    Rocky
    Monty Python’s
    …

    Some never were good:
    Tom Green
    Meet the parents
    Analyze this
    …

    Some are debatable:
    Big Lebowsky
    …

  11. I, for one, believe that there’s nothing, or so little to be negligible, to the “Russia hacked our election” nonsense, although I do think there’s a lot of financial funny-business, but I don’t object to investigations — I’d just rather not have “All Russia All Day” throughout the news-cycle and I’d rather not hear every single thing put into the context of something that’s not been shown to be substantive. Trump won because of Interstate Crosscheck, and THAT’S the important story that very, very few people are talking about.

    1. I am only annoyed with because all the warmongering narrative it distracts people from real crimes that trump commited and I would say with the coming evidence there is an actual an actual link appearing

  12. As a C-SPAN junkie, it’s nice to go to my town halls and say ‘what did you mean when you said this…’ or just having a preview of their talking points, because they very rarely vary.
    That being said, you guys need more BBC in your lives! I’m not going to push Doctor Who, because if you haven’t gotten into it in the fifty years it’s been on TV, some random person pushing it on you isn’t going to get you to watch it, but definitely check out Borderline or Chewing Gum for comedy.
    Also your Sci-fi tastes are a little dated; you guys need some upgrades! Dark Matter has been great, it reminds me of a good mix between serious Trek and Farscape, without the muppets. If you’re into Prime, The Man in the High Castle is slow starting but sooooooo good.

    1. Ok, so technically those two British produced shows aren’t BBC, I was just generalizing U.K. TV all together.

  15. Cenk’s attempt to prove that he’s DEFINITELY not Muslim is getting so out of hand that now he’s forcing everyone else to grow a beard while he stays clean shaven.

    #AyatollahAna

  17. They weren’t giving points on re-runs. The white cast members got them. I Think that’s a good point.

    1. Listen, fans of Vlad the Invader, I understand why everyone is more or less rooting for him to embarrass our “Fearless Leader”. So am I, in a way.

      On the other hand, I REALLY don’t like Putin. Which is why I wish to God my generation had lined up behind Bernie instead of fragmenting into a Hillary/No Bernie? Then Take Trump, DNC!!! Self-destructive schizophrenia.

      Whether it was because so many really loved Hillary (which I can’t believe) or were just hung up on the idea of a female President, or BOTH I have never quite figured out.

      But the end result was we shot ourselves in the foot.
      I have learned a painful lesson from this.
      I hope the rest have.

  18. I cannot believe that no one has broken down what 2001 a space odyssey is about to John. I now disavow agreeing with Idarola on everything.

  20. Can I just say–Brett looks like an excited child listening to Mommy and Daddy talk about going to mcdonalds when he sits between mike and jon XD XD XD

  21. Of course John likes quiche, it’s basically an egg pie.

    Sometimes when I see a sticker I hate on someone’s car, I have to read all their other stickers to see how much I hate them. But it doesn’t eat away at me, that is usually reserved for people who do something rude to me.

    It’s nice when you are alone watching a movie that makes you cry. Then you can do it freely and it feels cathartic.

  25. I say Dave Rubin.. he works a lot with learn liberty, which is part of institute of humane services (or something like that) which is funded by the kochs. He also speaks at events funded by Koch bros “think tanks”.. I don’t doubt that Crowder would fit that description, but as far as John knowing people personally….

    1. It would also be consistent with TYT hosts private wars against one another or in this case former employees – funny enough pretty similar to Trump’s “loyalty” nonsense. Even though objectively Dave Rubin really is a giant a**hole / just a dick/douchebag. His “why I left the left” video is the biggest joke ever… “I’m for the right of a baker to discriminate against me, otherwise I wouldn’t be able to discriminate based on my beliefs” sure

    2. Exactly. Rubin made it from TYT to a RightWingWatch.com entry within a year or so. Such a great career choice, such an authentic character.

  26. I don’t think that especially John and Michael get the criticism regarding Russia. It’s not that there is no evidence or that people don’t want an investigation or that people think Russia/Putin is A OK. The problem imho is that it’s often not presented accurately and with the nuance it deserves. “The Russia thing” contains a lot of different stories and some of them are comparable to other aspects that we don’t go after with the same scrutiny. Trump got 8 new hotels approved in Saudi-Arabia during the campaign, then gives them a 500B$ deal including 110B$ in arms – isn’t that the kind of smoking gun everyone waits in the Russia investigation? People often say they can talk policy and Russia at the same time, but are they? How much time/energy/resources do they spend on each issue? John says he doesn’t care about implications, yet avoids talking about Trump bombing Syrian government forces exactly because of potential implications. Even though all history of Trump’s “deal making” would point more into the direction of him NOT honoring his deals and trying to out-smart Putin (emphasis on “trying to”). Does Trump has any history of being his business partner’s bitch? While Michael Flynn actually prevented an attack on ISIS on behalf of Recep Tayyip Erdoğan – yet another smoking gun…

    So while certain aspects of it are valid, it should be blatantly obvious that the Democratic establishment, but also parts of the corporate news media are not necessarily objective and honestly trying to uncover “the truth”, instead it looks like propaganda. It looks like people are trying to spin the evidence together with potential implications to a cohesive narrative that undermines Trump’s authority and is trying to influence the electorate on an emotional level to make it susceptible/accepting of the idea of an impeachment while avoiding having to attack him on policies that others may wanna continue after Trump without shining a spot light on that fact. All of that is in and of itself another story separate from all the other stories that are being shoe-horned together into this Russia narrative.

    That “the epic politics man” and the guy who has actually a degree in political science are the two hosts least aware of this while being the ones who should be best equipped in recognizing it is shockingly stunning to me and I’m puzzled time and time again how they can be so ignorant about it.

    The critics/skeptics might not always be aware of it themselves, may chose the wrong words and/or tactics to get their point across and make mistakes like everybody else. But the gross misrepresentation and complete unawareness of the underlying reasons for their skepticism/feeling uncomfortable with the handling of the story/stories by the political establishment is very disappointing…

  27. I can’t get into the later series of House of Cards, just seems like every episode is the same, I’m up to the point where he has a secret meeting with his rival in some corridor

  28. Michael Shure facebook is shit don’t get it. I deleted mine and I was soooo happy then I started to freelance more and all the sites I wrote for were like “where’s your facebook you need to have facebook” I came back and HATE IT. My goal in life is to get big enough as a writer that not having facebook is a viable option because I won’t need it for the self promo and stuff… which is not that big so low bar I want to hit lol

  29. So back in film school, I took a film theory comedy class and we, of course, watched Blazing Saddles. The story we were told is that the scene with all of them sitting around eating beans and farting happened in part because of the production code. Blazing Saddles was released very shortly after the code was stopped and there had never been an American movie with an audible fart. Mel Brooks being who he is said he didn’t just want the first fart in a movie he wanted like the first 100. Fun totally unneeded fact.

    I cry a lot and very easily. Shows, movies, games, books, even some music… everything makes me cry. I actually like it. When I feel like I need a good cry I purposely seek out media that I know will do it and just let it happen. I always feel better after.

  30. I feel 4 ppl is too many for old school, I prefer cenk + 1 or 2 others ( 3 total is best).

    I kind of like Brett E on main show (in small doses) but I def don’t like him on old school.

  31. I don’t think I’ve ever cried while watching a movie, but I cried watching Awake: A Dream From Standing Rock when those fucking maniac cops started spraying the water protectors with water in 25 degree weather. That was so hard to watch, it absolutely killed me when they were trying to dry off with the fire and then the cops came behind them to spray more water on them to put out the fire.

  32. There nothing wrong with wanting more information and evidence before making your mind up. I believe it’s 3 Intelligence agencies. You want cry watching a movie, try Watership Down 1978. It traumatised me as a child!

    1. No one is even implying there is nothing wrong with wanting more information. They are saying that when given more information if your response is “well I still need more” at a certain point the reality is that no amount of information will change your mind.

  34. The guy who John is referring to who has a “huge” Patreon account made up mostly of Koch Brothers money… is it Steven Crowder? Who could it be?

    1. @nataliegb914
      I think he is refering to a former TYT host who turned out to be an extreme right-winger in liberal’s clothing, attacks his former colleagues all the time and – if I recall that correctly – openly brags about meeting with the Koch brothers and/or taking their money. However, he made it from TYT to a RightWingWatch.com entry within a year or so. Such a great career choice.

  35. Cenk: “I bifurcate on Mel Gibson, I love his movies”.

    Michael: “I do the same thing with Chick-Fil-A”.

    One of the funniest things I have heard in a while.

  36. The first movie that made me cry was “Jacknife” (1989). It was a scene between Ed Harris and Robert DeNiro. Am I still a man?

      1. Cenk made the claim so it falls on him to clarify. Now you are making the claim that Jimmy Dore is against having an investigation. Please send me a link…

  39. John – I dont think people say you guys cover EVERY Russia story. Most people I believe say TYTs main show covers Russian “interference” stories too much. I would add that TYT’s main show doesnt cover the hysteria around this issue at all.

    1. You could add that but you would be wrong. Main show does talk about that and going to take a shot in the dark and say you are one of the people John is talking about when he says it’s not about evidence because no amount of evidence would change your mind…

  40. History has shown that we should be skeptical of what the Intelligence Community declares to be true

      1. Everyone except maybe Trump supporters are in favor of the investigation but that wasnt my point. The panel seems to agree with the intelligence community that Russia “interfered” in our election rather than be skeptical as one should.

        1. I used to get tired of Cenk or any other panelist reiterating the same point over and over again. But after I read your comment I finally got why they do that. The panel said that there are circumstantial evidence that Russia might have interfered with the 2016 election, but no one has said that there is definite proof that Russia did.

  41. I agree that 17 agencies or 4 agencies saying Russia interfered doesnt change much. What it does is show the hysteria around this issue that still has no concrete evidence.

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