Hannah tells her “Wonder Woman” story. Amberia talks about some exciting career news.
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She really didn’t though, rhetoric tip for you when you say “I don’t agree with his tactics… But we shouldn’t be quick to judge people’s forms of protests” you are actually defending it as legitimate protest.
Yes, that’s correct Matthew. I am defending it, as legitimate protest. I just don’t think it was effective.
The fact that Hannah and her friends was nervous is understandable, because of the context of our experiences in movie theaters. But that doesn’t change the fact that he wasn’t trying to hurt anyone.
I don’t agree with Hannah’s attitude of ‘female empowerment’. First, not all females are unempowered; some of them have actually accomplished a great deal, and been recognized for it. Second, what about males who are too shy, who might have been beaten down at childhood, or are just afraid of making mistakes, and might have something to contribute but are too afraid of failure?
A focus on empowerment for one sex, even though there is a larger percentage of them that have been disadvantaged, is another form of tribalism. A fairer attitude, would be to wish that everyone female or male, who doesn’t have what they want in life, has the opportunity and the attitude to go get it. Further, that there should be no cultural, gender, or racial biases that get in the way of being recognized for their achievement.
I’d add one other wish – that individuals who want to contribute to a better world, but don’t want to be recognized or bothered by the downsides of fame, should have avenues for contributing anonymously.
As far as Wonder Woman goes – good stuff. It’s an important achievement by Patty and Gal (Sorry for dismissing the other players, in order to make the point). And it WILL make a difference in the level of appreciation that women receive, for value that many bring to the world. It will widen our own choices for entertainment and enrichment, since female protagonists with enormous talent (ahem Natalie Dormer ahem) won’t be filtered by very real cultural (gender) biases. This film will help to turn that around.
What Amberia emphasized, about being very cautious when we try to define the limits of protest and dissent – well-taken. Specifically, in the case of the abrupt shout about the treatment of Palestinians in the movie theater, we should make an extra effort to avoid pre-judging it, simply because it was inconvenient and unexpected in a scary way. I agree with the hosts, that he shouldn’t have done it. But Amberia’s point is just as important.
Gotta admit, I didn’t listen yet to the opportunities that Amberia started to describe, but will do so, later in the week. It’s already obvious that she is star material.
Must say I love Ambria’s tacit support of terrorism. You don’t shout and run in that matter and the guy most certainly should have been arrested for inciting a stampede on the “shouting fire in a theater standard”. Drinking game for Ambria: every time she says POC take a swig, the virtue signaling is strong with this one.
She said that she doesn’t agree with the theatre yeller’s tactics, so idk what you’re going on about. Maybe you’re the one who’s virtue signaling.
She really didn’t though, rhetoric tip for you when you say “I don’t agree with his tactics… But we shouldn’t be quick to judge people’s forms of protests” you are actually defending it as legitimate protest.
Just curious… Amberia almost never looks at any camera. No matter the angle, including when she is the solo person in the frame, her eyes remain fixed nearly on a point directly in front of her and well below camera height. It looks like someone reading cue cards except we know there are no cue cards.
What is she looking at? Inquiring minds want to know.
We cause them terror. They cause us terror. Of course, it fucking sucks. But it’s to be expected. Yes, I would hate to die in a random attack. But people die in random attacks all the time; usually by our country’s hand. It is what it is. Life sucks, kiddos; and we don’t have any more of a right to it than they do.
BDS on social media made a big deal about how Gal Gadot is a former IDF soldier and referenced many of her political statements. Protest is by nature inconvenient, but is not the London connection she thinks it is. I don’t agree with the method of protest (picket line outside the theater vs yelling in a crowded and dark space) but Hannah is totally paranoid here.
I’m surprised you left your other 2 friends there if you thought there was a fair possibility of danger.
If I was in that theater, I would assume there is a chance that guy is ready to blow the place up. Whether or not he truly is a “terrorist” is irrelevant. I wouldn’t want to pussyfoot around with my life or those with me.
Hannah Cranston has so much vocal fry when she speaks.
People are watching a movie for 17USD pp and feel unsafe/scared for 5 minutes… I wonder how the thousands feel who fled Palestine and then Libya and now Syria… I know people who fled from Palestine to Syria, only to be relocated again. I hate violence, but to nudge people a litte bit to see that their sitting in a movie theater for 17 USD pp, while there are strikes in all 3 countries by US forces, is in itself terror to the million people regardless of country who are suffering…
needless to say that ‘free Palestine’ is a slogan often used by anti-Semites and I would have been fearful as well.
/start rant
I’ve been a member for a good length of time. I try. I try really hard to not be bothered by Hannah. I get that she is not my ‘cup of tea’ so to speak, and that it shouldn’t bother me. But fucking hell, I just can’t do it anymore. I’ve been much happier not watching Think Tank videos featuring her, but it blows that she’s creeping into the main show.
You folks need more hosts in the vein of Amberia. She is level headed and worth listening to her point of view.
/end rant
Ambria all day. Protest is protest. There is no right or wrong way. It’s not a right or wrong thing. It’s a last stand before violence.
i’m happy that i am not the only one the feels this way , i don’t know what it is and i feel bad about it but when i see a show and i know shes on i more than likely don’t watch which sucks for paying members.
You really feel this way, Ryekitch? I see the exact opposite. When I first started watching Think Tank, I thought she was a little snot, that she disrespected and interrupted John too often. But over the past several years, she started to hit her stride and her voice. For the past several months, every time I’ve watched her talk – and it has to be visual, because her hand & face gesturing is part of the communication – I’ve been impressed by how effective she is.
Maybe she needs some fine-tuning, maybe she overdoes it sometimes. But I don’t know, I don’t see the unpleasantness that you’re describing.
Amberia – agreed. Class Act.
Anyway, I’ll check out this Post Game. Maybe there’s something you’re seeing, that should be obvious.
I agree completely. I no longer watch the Main Show whenever she’s on. I’m sure she’s a decent person, I just don’t enjoy watching her on political topics and I hate that there’s no way for me to express that. Her angle on most topics either panders to her idea of a liberal viewer or is just painfully boring; she is rarely ever “real”.
Ambria is totally right. His tactics were wrong, but that doesn’t make him a terrorist. I respect Hannah for the most part, but the wonder woman story was unbearable. The profiling of the protester, the fact that she didn’t care about the movie, but the selfie she could take after.
She’s assuming that the protester was Muslim and a terrorist, which is problematic in a lot of ways. A lot of people support Palestine.
The protester could have just stood outside the theatre with signs, or boycotted the film (if he paid for it just to run out yelling, then that defeats the purpose entirely). But to call him a terrorist is exactly what people like ISIS want you to do.
I can see both sides, but I agree with Amberia. Like you, Hannah, I am often paranoid at movie theaters and I would be terrified if I had witnessed that occur; however, I think you comparing him to a terrorist is problematic, discriminatory, and dismissive of the Palestinian cause. It is also the same reason many supporters of Palestine are boycotting the film in the first place–due to Gadot’s prejudiced remarks regarding Palestinians and the conflict. Don’t get me wrong, I loved the film, but you should understand the reasons behind why people are protesting before calling them a terrorist.