TYT Hour 2 June 9, 2017

In The Young Turks Hour 2 - On Demand by Gigi Manukyan29 Comments

John, Kim Horcher, & Grace Baldridge. FDA opioid painkiller pulled off market. Men arrest at Bonnaroo w/ fake drugs. Runescape Pride Week. Legal gay defense. Thai man jailed for insulting royal family. Madrid tackles “el manspreading.” Why sporadic sleeping is bad.


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  1. Dr. Price now Secretary of Department of Health knows nothing about ordering pain medication as an orthopedic surgeon. I actually tell you he does not know the limits for Tylenol which can destroy your liver if over used or limits on opioid. Now he thinks he can run the department and he will use his credentials to justify his decisions for this agency. Now I can say, he has been and will be part of the problem when come to opioid use and related policies.

  2. Patiences want what they want but as a retired RN, if I felt the ordered doses were inappropriate or the patient should not have long-term use, I did not give it or refuse to delegate my MTs (Medication Technician) to give them. After all in the long run, we should be looking at the long range health of patients. By the way, medication is not answer to everything. There is acupuncture, yoga, exercise etc to maintain comfort levels.

  3. Grace was a ****great**** host
    I’m a resident physician . I assure you, that my experience is literally of being Villainized for not prescribing opioids and threatened with negative reviews . These negative reviews effect bonuses/advancement or can get you fired . It’s easy to blame doctors when you don’t know doctors . Yes surgeons tend to be bad about prescribing opioids but they’re also cutting people open and that hurts . But I myself have never seen a drug rep for an opioid . Maybe I’m sheltered because I’m still in academia . But having interacted with many patients and families of patients in pain , and seeing how high their emotions/frustration/anger can run due To the pain, I think it’s very unfair to put the blame solely on the doctors .

  4. As a long-time gamer, I have to say I don’t recognize the gamer community in that article at all. Of course you have people like that everywhere, but if I were to generalize gamers, I would go the other way and say the gaming community is extremely accepting compared to almost any other arena. If you play online with people, all you really care about is how they act and how they play.

    Male or female, gay or straight, black or white, skinny or fat, rich or poor, some suffering from mental illness… You are exposed to people from all over the world with all sorts of differences, and when you play with them you realize that they are JUST LIKE YOU. That is one of my favorite things about online gaming; you’re judged by what you say and do. You’re gay? Cool, as long as you show up on time, you don’t act like a dick, and you do good dps.

  5. Anytime i hear a straight guy (which i also mostly identify as) says being gay is a “choice” i look at him and say “Prove it then. Get hard for me and enjoy it. If its a choice choose to and prove me wrong.” strangely enough I’ve never had a single one take me up on the challenge.

  6. You said the key words in your second sentence JRIII. “He was given these drugs with little to no direction…” So the doctors share a lot of blame in this situation. The corporations share blame too for pushing their products by offering incentives and kickbacks to doctors. What I’m saying here is that the solution doesn’t involve taking needed medications off the market. The solution involves proper controls on how doctors prescribe medications. Part of the blame also goes on our legislators for not passing sensible laws that protect people. Gee I wonder if this was due to the millions big pharma gives them?

  7. I played runescape on and off for about a decade. I love that game am so glad they have an lgbt event!

    Between that and discussions of Overwatch fan ships, this had to be one of my favorite panels

  8. Grace was totally boss. Great presentation, maintaining control over the flow of discussion (though in fairness she did not have to deal with Brett/Hasan), and keeping a fact sheet handy for quick reference. She provided a clear distinction between the facts, the analysis, and her commentary. Other hosts could learn from this.

    Kim and John were great as usual.

  9. lol I know I comment on this a lot but it made me smile to hear them say the traditional BYE BYE’!!

    Fun and refreshing show! Thanks TYT

  10. I play OSRunescape, most of the community has no issue with this. Most of us are in our early 20s and liberals.
    And you start the quest in Lumbridge by speaking to Gilbert. I did it, I didn’t even notice the text

  11. Grace ran this show like it was a MWF episode. Love it, cool as hell. Also I miss that show, still sitting tight for jeffrey dahmer

  12. So glad to hear you speak on the opioid crisis. I lost my children’s father, a good & loving family man, on Christmas Eve 2007 to heroin overdose. I never in a million years thought he would do that, let alone be consumed by it. A good friend of mine is currently going through the same thing. My graduating class (’98) has significantly diminished over the years on account of rampant overdoses. At one point there were funerals almost weekly & it’s hitting the next generation even harder. We’re all a couple degrees (or less) from this epidemic. It does not discriminate. & we as a society shouldn’t either. Addicts are not inherently criminals, but once they’re in the justice system they’re treated as an other, a junky, less than. If we want to save lives, we need to value them.

  13. Grace did such a great job leading the segments. I find her refreshing and would support a greater role for Grace

  14. Banning opiods isn’t the answer to the opiod problem. ER opiod medications are a good and safe way to manage rare types of chronic pain. Key word – rare. We should tighten controls on how and who these medications are prescribed to. Don’t take it away from the person the genuinely needs it. I feel like the people that are suffering from serious, legitimate, and untreatable medical conditions are left out of this conversation.

    1. My brother only age 37 had to have heart surgery. He was given these drugs with little to no direction until one day the doctor said “you have been on them how long?” “you need to stop taking them” This lead to days of horrible withdraw and I imagine that a lot of people would not be strong enough to stop and go through that hell. In fact the statistics say many people never stop and end up on heroin. And die.

      So maybe as you say in a RARE cases these drugs might be needed. That is not what we are talking about here. We are talking about big corporations enlisting an army of doctors to PUSH this drug so they can make their stock price go up regardless of human consequences.

      1. Doctors must begin to consider it an essential part of the job to
        explain the true situation w/ opiods.

        Prescribing fewer to begin with and not automatically writing the next scrip before speaking w/ the pt….even if just for 3 minutes on the phone.

        Regular ppl have no desire/ intention to stay on
        a drug beyond the point at which it’s no longer needed.

        As the system get’s used to the pain killer and its moderate pleasure, it
        will produce nasty feelings before the next anticipated dose. That’s actually withdrawal, not the original pain.
        Take another dose and those feelings lessen. Look, Mom, I’m hooked~!

        Trust me. I divorced a doctor.

        ~Upaya~

  15. I am a very straight woman who’s best friend just happens to be her gay brother. In addition to that, I am the mother of a gay young woman, and I would sacrifice my life to defend them if it ever came to that point. I just don’t understand how anyone could harm another person because of who they choose to love.

  16. There is money in treatment.. Its called suboxone. So we buy more drugs to stay off other drugs. Never ending cycle

  17. I really enjoy when Grace is on, but that being said, I wish she wouldn’t speak so fast. It makes me feel a little breathless after listening to her for a short time. Other than that, she does a great job.

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