TYT Hour 1 April 21, 2017

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Cenk, John, Michael Shure, and Amna Nawaz. Paris terror attack. Trump’s 100 days. Treasury will not provide waiver for Exxon. Trump’s new executive orders. Bernie’s strange behavior.

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  1. Cenk, love you but you are wrong in this case about Sanctions. How would it have looked if Treasury did grant the Sanctions Exemption to Exxon in this current, high-scrutiny environment? Can you imagine the outcry? The backlash?

    This doesn’t prove that there was no collusion.

  2. I don’t get the naivete shown here. Both the DNC and Sanders are using each other. Shure and to a lesser extent Nawaz are crying establishment tears that Sanders isn’t bowing down to the all powerful establishment. The DNC could have left Sanders off the “Unity” tour, but they didn’t because they NEED Sanders. This is the ‘civilized’ Democratic civil war.
    Shure, stop being on the wrong side and get aboard! Fight for universal health care!

  3. haha, great backpedal from Cenk, “there was the IRA terrorists, did the UK invade Ireland …, …, ehhhh, nevermind”.

    3. I like both Jimmy Dore and Michael Shure. They bring a range of views and their disagreements are often genuine and interesting.

  5. through out the primary Bernie never complained publically as many of his supporters would have liked and in the end I think it made his supporters want to do more for him and made it easier for supporters of other candidates to join him later on. so with that in mind I think the reason that he is going along with this unity commission is to get a chance to display the differences between himself and the rest of the democratic party for the masses who dont necessarily watch TYT and make it really obvious to everyone that he genuinely tried to work with dmocrats but it didnt work and he had no choice but to go start a third party if and when he does. this will give him more leverage at that time, allow more people to hear his message until then and make it really obvious to everyone that the democratic party is unchangable. and it is they who forced Bernie out and not he who chose to leave therefore being devisive or selffish or sokething like that.

  8. Whatever Sanders’ strategy is on the tour, I appreciate that he is still out and fighting to show the American people that we still have a dog in this fight. He is well aware of the symbol he became, and I believe that he feels more fully than he did prior to his campaign a duty to inspire hope when so much has been stacked against us.

  10. The whole point of the Unity Tour is to use Sanders’ effective messaging and populism to rally Democrats. It’s to convince people who like Bernie to be more Democrat. The point of the Unity Tour is not to convince Sanders to be more Democrat or whatever. Sanders is just gonna be Sanders.

    It’s the Democrats job to come to Sanders and embrace him, not the other way around. What the Democrats are showing is that they have an inherent distrust and hatred of Bernie Sanders. The moment he “steps out of line” they lash out at him instinctively, rather than just saying that Democrats have a multitude of positions. The whole tour failed because Establishment Democrats refuse to accept disagreement in their ranks, and feel that any disagreement makes us not unified.

  12. Amna Nawaz was great! I’d like to see more of her in the future on TYT. Very professional and cool, brought an interesting element to the show.

  13. It’s so fucking refreshing to see people actually giving Bernie credit for his shrewdness in regards to the tour and his amusing interactions with Perez. Watching that motherfucker (Perez) squirm in his snake skin while deflecting questions had me both infuriated and thoroughly entertained.
    As far as Washington Post is concerned, try googling “Washington Post vs. Bernie Sanders”. The amount of mud they have slung in his direction is positively sickening. Most shining of all is the “16 negative stories in 16 hours” fiasco from primary season. Honestly, how desperate can they get?

  14. Cenk, I think you missed the whole point of Bernie’s Unity Tour.

    When I watched the Bernie and Perez interview by Chris Hayes on MSNBC, it was apparent that Bernie was sitting back and letting people see the huge contrast between his and the old establishment Perez/DNC stance.

    Bernie’s a skilled, seasoned and slick politician who many grossly underestimate. He knows exactly what he’s doing.

    Bernie’s strategy is so obvious I don’t know how you managed to miss that.

  16. Why was the Flint video cut out at the end of this 1st hour?

    Kind of odd the refer to it on the show then not show it.

    At least link to it in the show description or something.

  17. Bernie stands up and shouts “medicare for all” “Free college education” , and then sits down and watches Tom Perez squirm.. I Love Him

  18. Steve Oh and Malcolm Fleishner nailed it on Aggressive Progressives in regards to Bernie’s unity tour. What he’s accomplishing is revealing the stark contrast between himself and the DNC. This partly depends on what happens during the next elections, but I doubt Bernie’s behavior and positions will change.

  19. I wish I had had ten grand to donate. Would’ve loved to have named it “The Desk In The Darkness” Just for Ben.

    “But it’s not in the darkness! It’s right here! In a brightly lit studio! Literally, right under the lights!”

  20. they needed Bernie to go on tour so people would actually show up. I wanted to drive two hours away just to see Bernie on this tour but I would have never made the trip if it was tom perez and establishment folks. Bernie gets the policies we need to focus on in front of the people and on this tour they see how much we back Bernie’s policies. But we can see through them. Bernie is just spreading the word and inspiring people.

  21. As someone in contact with the DNC, they are very quick to point out that Bernie is, in fact, not a Democrat. To which I reply ‘well, he’s the best chance you’ve got.’

  22. I agree with the previous commenters that Bernie joining the DNC Unity Tour is a strategic move on his part. Not only is he keeping up the energy of his supporters, but his ideas are being introduced to Democratic voters who would not typically go to a Bernie rally. These could be people that were swayed by anti-Bernie DNC and MSM propaganda originally now hearing Bernie’s message straight from the source.

    Also, I think this is a strategic move for Bernie to change the DNC from the inside. Tom Perez & other DNC staffers are now going to experience the power of the movement first hand as they see thousands and thousands of voters cheering on Bernie and his policies. They will be able to juxtapose both the number of people and the energy Bernie brings into the room with what they saw during Clinton’s run, where many times there weren’t enough people to fill the room.

    Finally, I think it is imperative that Tom Perez & DNC staffers have direct personal contact with Bernie himself. Cenk often talks about how it felt bad to have to report negative things about Donna Brazile because he’s met her and she was nice to him. After getting to know Bernie, an extremely likeable guy, in a personal way it will become much more difficult for Perez and staffers to undermine him and candidates like him the way they did in the primaries.

  23. Regarding Trump’s new executive orders, let’s recall that Trump also had reinstating Glass-Steagall legislation in the Republican platform after the convention. This also probably made his supporters think that he was anti-bank. But OF COOOOURSE!!, he was lying.

  24. ONE LITTLE THING THE YOUNG TURKS REFUSE TO MENTION AND GIVE CREDIT TO TRUMP FOR… THE RELEASE OF AN AMERICAN PRISONER AYA HIJAZI, HER HUSBAND, AND SEVERAL OTHER AMERICAN AIDE WORKERS!! SOMETHING OBAMA DIDN’T AND COULDN’T GET DONE! AND WHAT DO YA KNOW, WE DIDN’T HAVE TO TRADE MUSLIM TERRORIST JIHADI TOWELHEADS TO GET THEM BACK!

    THANK YOU PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP! PROUD TO CALL YOU MY PRESIDENT! GREAT JOB! GREAT DIPLOMATIC DISPLAY OF YOUR MASTERFUL NEGOTIATION SKILLS!

    DON’T FORGET NIGGERS ARE RACIST TOO! GENK MADE ONE SMALL REFERENCE TO THE FRESNO SHOOTER, YET WE GET NO INFORMATION THAT IT WAS A NIGGER AND THAT A NIGGER WAS RACIST AND KILLED INNOCENT WHITE MEN BECAUSE THEY WERE SIMPLY WHITE!

    ALSO KEEP IN MIND THERE WAS NO MENTION OF ANTIFA WHEN THEY COVERED THE BERKELEY PROTEST. THANKS TO THE AMAZING JOB THE WEAPONIZED AUTIST HAVE DONE THE VICIOUS POTENTIALLY DEADLY ASSUALY WITH A BIKE LOCK ON A TRUMP SUPPORTERS HEAD HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS A LEFT WING PROFESSOR. NEVER ANY MENTION THAT ANTIFA IS A VIOLENT LEFT-WING MILITIA. THEY SELECTIVELY ONLY DECIDED TO SHOW #MOLDYLOCKS GETTING PUNCHED. WHO BY THE WAY WAS THERE TO COLLECT “100 Nazi scalps.” AND HAD GLASS BOTTLES AND WAS ASSAULTING PEOPLE WITH THEM ALSO SHE IS A HAIRY CUNT THAT DOES PORN AND IS A VIOLENT LEFT WING REGRESSIVE!

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/04/antifa-terrorist-beat-bloodied-trump-supporter-bike-lock-identified-professor-video/

    2. nobody here, including cenk, agree’s with violence against anyone. but remember antifi are anarchists, so they have some cross over with the left, but they are not entirely the same.

      1. Is this a joke? What about fighting fascists in Italy and Germany in 1940’s? I believe that was fought with violence, not non-violence. The entire history of the left is a history of fighting violence with violence. Only state violence is considered order, and resistance to that violence is called violence. The law and order the military style thug police are there to enforce, is the order of the powerful, protecting their property, and their class. The left has always fought against this. When they came out to break up the fights for an 8-hour day by killing people who marched, and they fought back, are you saying they shouldn’t have? When they fought against child labor, and they were beaten by cops, they fought back.

        And what do you mean anarchists only have crossover with the left? Anarchism is the left. That’s the leftist of the left. Those people fighting for the 8 hour day and against child labor? Anarchists. To the right of anarchists are socialists, and they were there too. Way way way to the right of them are liberals. Is that the real left? I’m curious what your definition of left means.

        1. i never associated violence with the left… so when i saw these guys, it seemed out of character… didn’t expect it from the left. so do you condone violence for a particular outcome? how do we decide how much violence is acceptable for what expected outcome?

    5. Speedball271 is the epitome of “triggered” and “overemotional.”
      Also, a groveling sub who can’t make a point without being painfully typical, and employing the standard charged slurs and epithets one learns about in middle school.

      Another $10 well-spent.

  26. If Bernie split from the DNC now to form his own party he would be very likely be burried, he would have another black out of the media and Washington and few people would work with him. However after this tour, after keeping his message strong and showing the insanity and weakness of the DNC, He will either continue to bring the DNC forward into more progressive policy or he will have a higher chance at the end if they refuse to the splinter and he will be able to bring alot more people who have seen him on mainstream media. which ultimately is the only demographic he is missing besides cray right wingers. Also, michael UGH.

  27. Michael Shure (along w/mini-Mike, John) sounds like his main argument against Bernie is that he is not on Team Democrat. He can’t speak on a unity tour, he cannot strongly criticize Dems or the DNC, he cannot speak about the Democrats intentions or goals or move forward because he doesn’t have a DEMOCRAT stamp on his forehead. Why? Clintoncrats have been giving Progressives shit for years, name-calling and poo-pooing any of their policy ideas. I’m with Cenk on this … Bernie is popular and Hillary LOST. Why do the LOSERS get to set the agenda? Makes no sense.

    It’s also short-sighted and Michael & like-minded Dems are only cutting off their nose to spite their face.
    By not accepting that the new, vibrant, life-blood of future Dems are the Progressives, they are doomed to failure. The Neolib Clintoncrats had their day in the sun, and they have almost completely destroyed this party.

    Democrats of today bear resemblance in name only to the Dems of the 40s-70s. They sold their soul to the Corporate Warmonger Devil and in so doing have ended their relevance.
    S T E P A S I D E.

    1. TYT has anchors who keep holding out hope that Bernie will ride in on his white horse and fix things. This is fallacy. Michael and Ben are the only ones on TYT who were open and honest about it from the start, and that is because the older crowd has seen similar reform movements fizzle in the past in exactly this same fashion as Bernie’s presidential campaign did. I was similarly skeptical despite being a strong Bernie supporter myself, and I still am.

      Did Bernie do a phenomenal job of fundraising? Yes. Has Bernie raised consciousness? Yes. Did Bernie actually enact any meaningful reforms as a Democratic presidential candidate? NO! What lip service he did exact from the DNC and DLC was shown to be entirely disingenuous by Wikileaks, and even that minimal lip service was all for naught anyway once Hillary bungled the general election.

      Besides, just how many Bernie-esque insurgent candidacies are we expecting the lower half of the income spectrum to fund? Most progressives are struggling just to make ends meet.

      All of Bernie’s major accomplishments arose from his terms in congress, and he did that on his own steam as an independent congressman on a shoestring budget. Vermont is small and sparsely populated enough that a blacklisted campaign can still raise enough money to reach out to a large enough percentage of the voters and actually win an election without the backing of corporate media or corporate money. This is still impossible on the national level.

      The only viable solution on a national scale is to get the money out of politics (and then also to take control of the voting machines out of the hands of corporations, something that almost no one is looking into these days).

      The solution is in our hands with a constitutional amendment via the initiative process. We cannot wait for a Bernie, or anyone else, to do it for us. This one rests squarely on our own shoulders.

      We had better do it soon, before the oligarchs invent some new scheme to deny us a constitutional remedy, such as two or three more Trump supreme court justices who are corrupt enough to rule on the basis of any bullshit corporate rationale they can invent or glom onto.

      1. I’m not sure why you’d expect Bernie to reform the party as a candidate in the primaries. All that he could’ve done in that respect he has done. He showed the establishment how far off-base they’ve drifted and what needs to be done. He showed them that there’s a viable alternative to endless centrism and the neolib losing game. That’s all he can do. He can’t exactly grab them by the scruff of the neck and drag them further left.

        Your argument seems to amount to “the Bernie approach won’t work nationally, so the Dems should keep chasing corporate cash and ignoring their voters, like they’ve been doing for decades (until we get money out of politics)” That, uh, that makes zero sense to me. The monolithic MSM no longer has the same stranglehold on public discourse it once had. The electorate is increasingly forming its political views online, and while that has its upsides and downsides, it means that business-as-usual is not going to cut it any more, at least not for long.

        1. “I’m not sure why you’d expect Bernie to reform the party as a candidate in the primaries.”

          Never said anything of the sort.

          “Your argument seems to amount to “the Bernie approach won’t work nationally, so the Dems should keep chasing corporate cash and ignoring their voters”

          Never said that either.

          What I said was that the little people have a key role to play in reforming the system. The way it works is that the mood of the country shifts and then the leaders all run out in front of the crowd as it heads in a new direction. We already have had that mood shift for decades. Every time a Nixon, Reagan or Bush Jr. rapes the office and/or fleeces the public there is a groundswell of progressive mood, but Trump won anyway because of the money in politics and the election fraud, and because of the misdirected anger.

          What is still lacking is the new direction, and that is because the legal framework is blocking it. My comments about Bernie were precisely that at the state level, the door is still open to progressives in a few states anyway. Nationally, not so much. This statement is completely independent of political party. It is institutional.

          Now that election fraud and bribery are institutionalized, reform is stymied. It is my belief that things will persist this way until the path is cleared. That means rebuilding the legal framework with a door that is open to progressives who get funded by the lower half of income earners.

          It is all about who pays. They work for whoever pays them. Always have, always will. The more people who are directly supporting a given candidate for office with direct financial input, the broader the policy will be scoped. It is mathematics, pure and simple.

          When the majority of the financial support comes from a tiny minority of the population, that minority voice is over-represented. Reforming the elections is tantamount to rebuilding the nation. The two are correlated.

          Not sure why you brought partisanship into this. What we are facing is tantamount to class warfare, especially now that Trump is in charge and the Republicans have gone off the rails. I was merely remarking that some of the more avid Bernie supporters on TYT seemed to feel that there was a real chance he could have won. About the only way that would have happened is if Hillary collapsed on the campaign trail before the primary.

          1. I’m 100% behind you on getting money out of politics by way of constitutional amendment, but that long-term project should not be an excuse to neglect the daily grind of the Democratic party. I wasn’t the one who “brought partisanship into this” – the original comment was a direct response to a discussion of that topic in the video (the Unity Tour, the disagreements within the party re. single-payer, etc.) Those are the discussions that keep the people engaged and involved, instead of giving up on systemic reform from within and betting exclusively on a broad-reaching DIY campaign for a constitutional amendment. Of course the grassroots movements are essential, but they can’t afford to keep themselves pure & entirely disassociated from the corrupt institutions that they’re trying to reform. You still need the Democratic Party, such as it is, and leaders such as Sanders.

            BTW, what you did say was: “Did Bernie actually enact any meaningful reforms as a Democratic presidential candidate? NO!” I get that this was in response to what you perceive to be progressives waiting for him to “ride in on his white horse and fix things”, but what I’m saying is that’s unfair and counterproductive

            1. You keep coming at me as if I ever said we should neglect the Democratic party.

              That is just the noise in your head.

              Other than that it seems we are on the same page.

              Again, what I am saying is that Sanders alone is not a cure for anything, and working within the Democratic Party is not a cure for anything either, any more than working within the Republican Party is a cure.

              There is no cure for what ails us that we can apply externally. The cure is within us.

            2. I think we can all agree that getting money out of politics is the first and foremost goal.
              A constitutional amendment may be the only way to be sure of this.
              Bernie is nobody’s savior or “shining knight,” and he doesn’t have to be.

              However, this still begs the question why Progressives are being told to surrender to the phony, bull-shit lip service of the current DNC/NeoLib/Clintoncrats who have led us to this miserable situation?

              The DNC does not know what they are doing. They are only capable of losing. They are not “in-it to win-it.” Their goals are not to make this country better for its citizens. Their goal is to keep their own cushy jobs, wealth and limited power.

              They are PAID LOSERS. If they had ANY idea of how to win elections, they would see that this country is sick of political double-speak and are screaming out for a REAL populist.
              This has been proven out by the fact that ANYONE could have beaten Trump, except of course HRC.
              The DNC was so blinded by their arrogance and their belief that people would take off work, stand in long lines for hours, etc. to vote for a candidate who said things like, “The US will NEVER have single-payer! NEVER!”
              Boy, why wouldn’t someone miss work to vote for someone who says they will need to work like a dog forever to afford minimal healthcare? Funny how people don’t like that “straight talk.”

              And that’s just one example.
              I just don’t understand why the DNC thinks they have the right to dictate the Dem Party’s forward plan.
              I don’t understand why they think having Progressive Show Ponies fools anyone.
              Nobody asks the loser for advice.
              Except to maybe say, whatever you did … let’s never do that again, because obviously it doesn’t work!

  28. Love this panel, BUT…

    Every time John talks about Trump, he sounds whiny, condescending toward non-HRC voters, and a bit dickish.
    Maybe it is amped up cuz he is like a giddy puppy-dog whenever Michael Shure is in the room.

    I like the addition of Amna! It would be nice if TYT had more strong women on.

    The constant sausage-fest could do with more than just Ana’s perspective.
    Where are the mature Progressive women?
    I would argue that it is easier to find 40+aged progressive women than conservative ones for the show.
    Particularly in the SoCal area.
    I bet they could find a few if they tried.

    3. I was also happy to see Amna Nawaz join the panel and have enjoyed seeing more diverse women on the show in recent weeks. I used to bitch regularly on Twitter that the Friday Hour 1 Power Panel in particular was almost always a sausage fest to a degree that became a real issue. I even did a survey of all last year’s shows to count the rate of male to female hosts and it was pathetic (I emailed and tweeted the results of my survey to TYT but have no idea if anyone actually read it). But I’ve been encouraged in recent weeks because it really seems that they’re making an effort in 2017 to bring on more women.

      I agree also that they need to seek out women of similar experience and authority as the men on the panel as well. Someone I think has been excellent on TYT in the past is Desi Doyen. I would love to see her as one of the regular pool called on for panel discussions.

  29. If you believe propaganda from the DNC, you would think Bernie is being played for a sucker. But if you actually SEE what is going on and use your mental processes to evaluate what is ACTUALLY happening — Bernie is totally kicking DNC ass.

    Tom Perez must be having a miserable time. It cannot be fun to hear a giant venue rock with chants of “Bernie! Bernie! Bernie!” that goes on for minutes, then when your own name and “DNC” are introduced, hear the house erupt with catcalls and jeers.

    Just watch the interview done by Chris Hayes — Bernie speaking with direct passion and strength about universal healthcare being a right, then Chris asks Perez “Is the DNC for universal healthcare?” and watch Perez squirm and triangulate so painfully, its almost embarrassing to watch. Perez looks an utter fool. While Bernie sits there with a quiet smile on his face, like the cat that just swallowed the canary.

    Nope, Bernie is completely in charge of that tour, by virtue of the fact that he is proving again and again that he is the leader America wants, and his ideas are the ideas that America wants. The Establishment can only be getting more and more nervous about this.

  30. The fact is, Bernie Sanders and the DNC are splitting the costs of the Unity Tour. This tour is thus just as much Bernie;s as it is the DNC’s. That means that the idea is for Bernie (representing his policies) goes on tour with Perez (representing the DNC’s policies), and they try to see where they can unify.

    So I do not see this as Bernie knuckling down. I do not agree with Cenk that Bernie is being naive. I see this as a very public battle in which the two opposing sides are hanging out their respective banners and seeing who follows what.

    I do think that this will result in Bernie being able to make a credible, justified, cogent and defensible argument for starting a third party.

    Unless, of course, it ends with Perez essentially crying “uncle” and going all in and supporting single payer, free college, rejecting corporate money, and so on. That will be a glorious day, and people will be buying tickets to watch the Olympic speed-skating in Hell.

  32. I watched Cenk’s interview with this lady on her show and I like her. But she just framed the French election as a choice between Centrist Macron and Nazi Le Pen. Totally ignoring left-wing populist Melenchon. He’s not Jill Stein. He has an actual shot at winning. That shit got under my skin.

  33. God damn it Cenk! I bet my dad $10 on the Russia/Exon sanctions because you’re always right! Now I owe this unapologetic Trump supporter $10 of my hard earned money!

      2. I will but I don’t know what to bet on. That they’ll be lifted by the end of the year? Or something else Trump will do and said he wouldn’t or won’t do when he said he would. Probably the former because my dad takes his excuses as gospel. (Which is aggravating because he never watched Fox News or believed republican bullshit before this Clinton/Trump election.)

    3. it’s not over until it’s over. wait till end of the year. when we know for almost-sure, but i would wait till the end of trump’s first term just to make extra sure. it ain’t over till it’s over.

  34. At the top of the Huffington Post home page was a big picture of Bernie Sanders with a title “Bernie’s Blind Spot.” The article talked of a mayoral race in Nebraska. How the mayor might not be an ideal pro-choice candidate. The article criticizes Bernie for his support of this candidate, before acknowledging a few paragraphs down that the head of the DNC is also endorsing this candidate. Shouldn’t that last piece of information be the headline? If the author of the article really cared about the issue, it would have been. But- that issue seems less important to the author (or Huffington Post) than criticizing Bernie Sanders. These type of articles are popping up everywhere in the “liberal” media. I shouldn’t be surprised. They did it during the primary. But- it’s just frustrating.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/reminder-abortion-is-an-economic-issue_us_58f8d11be4b018a9ce58dd4f

    1. We can expect many more hit pieces on Bernie, because his popularity is only growing, every day. The DNC and the Establishment will play every dirty trick in the book, and they’ve got armies of journalists and pundits eager to do their bidding.

      Don’t forget that the insatiably greedy Clintons were convinced they’d own this period of history in the record books, and now they are watching a rumbled old socialist from Vermont become the greatest hero of the American people since FDR.

  35. Re Bernie and the Tour. He just sees a way to get his message across on the largest scale that he can right now. Bernie fans know he’s the shit and at least he’s trying to keep it alive. He could help form a third party but for some reason doesn’t want to atm, his choice.

    Screw the DNC, they’re either riding his coat-tails or think they’re going to get some credibility from doing so, neither of which is an honest attempt to help those they are “working” to help, the people.

  36. What happened to the end of this video? It seems like it was cut off before it was supposed to. Hopefully there wasn’t any real content cut off since the hour was overlong anyway.

  37. Re The “Unity” Tour bullshit… While I’m not in Bernie’s head, I well imagine he’s savvy enough to use the party of Democrats back. I tell myself the reason he’s on the road with Perez, or whoever else he’s on the road with, is to get his message of FDR/New Deal policies out. The more people hear what he has to say, the more they will be able to recognize someone that is talking BernieCrat policies. I also posit that perhaps, just perhaps, this is what Bernie needs to do for himself, so that should the DEMs just talk the talk and not walk the walk by 2020… He’d feel completely free to accept the draft Bernie request, because he’d have proven to himself that no matter what he does to try to real the DEMs back to the left they like that money too much.

  38. Oh my god. When I hate tyt- when they mention other countries issues as anecdotes when they are seriously uneducated on the topic. every time Ireland has ever been brought up on tyt shows it makes me want to switch off. When your own country is brought up and things are said that are so ill informed if makes me question everything I agree with them on.

    1. Unfortunately, the media during the time of the New IRA was selling the IRA as the biggest terrorist threat in the world, so it did give Americans the impression that Ireland was very dangerous. On the other hand, I think Cenk was being overly dramatic about it to show how ridiculous it is for the media to be fear-mongering on behalf of the jihadists.

      1. I don’t know what you mean by the term the new ira. And I totally agree, there was an insane amount of propaganda by the uk. Belfast Politicians voices weren’t allowed to be heard on tv. It didn’t catch on as much as the Muslim issue because it is ridiculously more nuanced than cent has ever mentioned. There were many civil rights issues that meant that other countries didn’t view it the same as the Muslim topic. My annoyance is that tyt throw in references to things they’ve never spoken about fully or reasearched. So to throw in comments mid story about other countries must be annoying to more than me if you are from outside America. I also take issue that the IRA are literally brought up every time cenk tries to make that same point over and over again.

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