Negative, and look, I understand that only a minority of those who are politically involved, actually study or do in-depth research on the topic of U.S. foreign policy, but you’ve got to read further than the summaries and look into it more than the commentaries heard. Most importantly though, and the reason why the graduate field of international relations is dominated by a liberal majority, you absolutely have to use critical-thinking as well as place things into context — contexts that often won’t be mentioned.
Modern foreign policy is just too complicated to take things at face value, or to assume that — in a Democracy — any one person is fully responsible for bad decisions and/or good decisions. Now, you’re talking about the U.S.-Iraq Status of Forces Agreement of 2008, and yes, Bush did negotiate this with the Prime Minister of Iraq at the time, Nouri al-Maliki. However, al-Maliki was getting in bed with Iran, taking and bribes and such and allowing their massive influence into the Iraqi political process. Bush knew this before striking the agreement, but did it anyways — probably hoping that his successor would manage to fix it.
Thing is though, it’s well-documented that Bush neglected to pay attention to Wall Street and the healthcare crisis that was devastating the country. It’s also well-documented that for the first 18-20 months of Obama’s presidency, the White House staff were working non-stop, and their morale was quite low because of how much time they spent putting-out Recession-caused fires, only to then immediately push for the ACA as hard as possible. Also, the stability gained in Afghanistan was receding in 2009, because of the surge in Iraq which led to the neglect of operations in Afghanistan.
Obama immediately drew-down troop deployments in Iraq, something Bush hadn’t done or planned on doing (he felt he HAD to make Iraq work), and went with Biden’s plan to do a surge in Afghanistan from late ’09-’11 and with the “Hearts and Minds” strategy, a ton of ground was gained with minimal U.S. and Afghan Troops, and civilian casualties. By 2012, we drew-down by over 50% in Afghanistan. Meanwhile, from 2009 to 2011, we had way fewer combat troops in Iraq, mostly logistics and those focused on the troop drawdown and training of Iraqis. The main focus was on our diplomats training theirs, and attempting to help them build a platform for their democracy: free elections, free press, religious freedom, etc..
So through all that, Obama didn’t have the time or incentive to pay attention to al-Maliki’s ties to Iran, and then right after we left Iraq, the Syrian Civil War broke into a deadly conflict, the U.N. led an intervention on Libya due to fears that Gaddafi would terrorize his people and cause more instability in the region. After that, al-Maliki’s Iranian Shiite connections kicked-in, and violent and political Sunni suppression began in Iraq, once again.
Because of the deal, the reelection campaign, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, Russia, North Korea, and on, and on; Obama had very little time or will to renegotiate with al-Maliki — by then, pretty much an authoritarian tyrant — and thus, Obama pushed for the U.N. Security Council to help us build a coalition in the region. In 2014, this coalition and the U.N. managed to force al-Maliki to step-down, and operations in Iraq began once again — but with very few U.S. troops, which also leads to more civilian casualties because of the unreliable eyes on the ground.
It’s also a myth that complete non-intervention will lead to problems sorting themselves out there. Absolutely not, they will intensify because the school of Wahhabism is only getting stronger due to outside funding and droughts, poverty, political instability in many nations or parts of nations. No one actually knew how to deal with this, Wahhabism is a new threat that didn’t really exist like this until the Taliban took over Kabul in 1994. I’d explained that and Saudi Arabia’s Wahhabi NGOs’ influence on Afghan orphans throughout the Afghan-Soviet War (1979-1989) as well, but it would take another massive and lengthy post.
Basically, corporate democrats didn’t live-up to our expectations. But most of us only just awoke, or have been sleeping at the wheel for the past 15-20 years. The world, though, actually is much safer today than at any time before. Literacy rates, worldwide, are much higher than ever before. The Democratic Peace Theory that was adopted by the vast majority of neoliberals, did succeed in increasing the standard-of-living and the accessibility to resources worldwide. The problem though, is that we’ve had too many ideological, bought, and corrupt politicians — the VAST majority of which have been Republican — steered our influence towards indebting ourselves so that they could try and spread their beliefs across the world. This backfired, but now we’re starting that same bullshit again. “Corporate Democrats” have responded to social movements much better than Republicans, they are easier to push in the right direction, and they are far more welcoming to different ideologies within their own party.
There’s no way around this reality, no matter how much anyone tries to justify their “conscious votes,” we fucked up big time. Just because you aren’t directly affected by these initial policies, millions of Americans are… Hundreds-of-millions will be displaced worldwide because of oil-first policies, war intensifications, and corporate profiteering as well as plutocratic and authoritarian greed. Sure, the Clinton Foundation took money from bad and greedy people, but they also spent a ton to fund humanitarian aid in the poorest parts of the world. Whether you can come to grips with it or not, that’s the best way that they could find to make a long-lasting difference, which is far more than the vast majority of us can say.
LPT: To see today’s vids before they’re belatedly posted here, go back to https://tytnetwork.com/memberslive/ start playing (video will be positioned at the end of the Postgame) then scroll the slider back to -2:26:00 or thereabouts. Enjoy the full 2.5 hours of Ana/John goodness (sans Cenk).
Aaron. Get your fucking shit together. These videos are consistently coming out later and later. You’d think with youtube fucking up their ad revenue so drastically that they’d put a little more focus on catering to their paying members.
I kind of agree with jettienne. I love you guys, I’ve been a member for years. But seriously it isn’t a one off thing. I don’t want to have to wait until the next day to watch tonight’s episode. Especially when we pay a subscription.
It is almost 10pm over here in NYC and once again no video. Friday was a complete shit show with this same issue now Monday it repeats. This is seriously unacceptable!
Man be for real here, once again — just like Jimmy Dore — a Democrat’s flaws are underlined without any mention of solutions. Meanwhile, there’s definitely no coherent mention of how we can get the most populated and decentralized democracy in the world, the United States of America, to implement such solutions. For one, progressives have many, many goals that they want to achieve, and within this group, there still isn’t a concrete consensus around “what” is the right method to reform government. We all know what we want, but very few actually know how to get it done when it comes to the reality of politics.
For example, you mentioned that Obama has bombed 7 countries instead of Bush’s 4, but Obama came into office amidst two gigantic war efforts and a Great Recession. For one, you can’t start downsizing the military in the middle of an economic downturn — especially not one like that — because the most tried-and-true method to recovery employs the principles of Keynesian Economics, meaning you need to increase public sector employment, not reduce it.
Secondly, he began the efforts to withdraw out of Iraq and actually began developing a “functioning” democracy there — something that the Bush Administration (especially Cheney and Rumsfeld) purposely neglected in order for defense contractors to profit for as long as possible. Obama didn’t do that, instead, he used the cheapest and most effective methods (special ops and drone programs) to cut-down on spending while reducing the amount of casualties.
Third, the Wahhabi-led insurgency fallback in Yemen, Syria, Pakistan, Libya, its resurgence in Afghanistan, the threat it imposes in Somalia, and the post-withdrawal devastation that ensued in Iraq were all largely due to the Bush Administration’s blatant arrogance and failure in Iraq. By having Cheney elevate al-Baghdadi for no good reason, other than to scare people into going to war, he created the future leader of what would become ISIS. Then, their firing of most of Saddam’s Sunnis in government and the military (a majority), they created an extremely high unemployment rate that al-Qaeda took complete advantage of.
So, Obama was far from being the “perfect liberal,” but his opposition to pointless wars never changed. The problem is that leaving those places to fend for themselves a rift has already been created, is a terrible idea, i.e. Syrian civil war in Afghanistan, and eventually, in many other nations. The number of war-related civilian deaths under Obama is also significantly lower than during Bush’s tenure — even with drone strikes — because of a massive change in the ROEs and a “Hearts & Minds” primary objective in the conducting of foreign policy. Much more trust between the U.S. and those countries has developed as well, which is also costing us less than the discriminate bombings and invasions of cities under Bush. If you add the number of future civilian casualties related to Bush’s total blunder with Iraqi foreign policy, then groups like ISIS and Al-Nusra, al-Qaeda in Yemen, and al-Shabaab bring influence by ISIS have led to significantly more casualties than Obama.
Trump is already approaching Obama’s total civilian casualty count, he’s not there yet, but holy shit he’s already killed over 200 civilians within his first two months!
But let us pretend that a real progressive, in the White House, would be able to fix all of that immediately. We don’t have dictators; although we may have a plutocratic-authoritarian executive soon enough. And please don’t go on about Obama having suspended “Habeas Corpus,” because it isn’t true whatsoever. That exception only applies to individuals clearly involved with terrorism, and who are captured by the military in war zones. No American, even if they are working for ISIS, who gets arrested by the police or the FBI, can get their right to challenge their detention permanently suspended.
Under no circumstances do Obama’s justify letting this maniac into the White House. Yep, Clinton was a bad candidate, but the country’s democratic base had only just awoken. Under her and after her, we could’ve accomplished so, so much. We were all ready to organize and push back on day 1, and it would’ve made a MASSIVE DIFFERENCE! But now, all the organizing in the world will get us little more than an even larger prison population, all while the MIC and the Private Prison industry continue to profit at our expense. What a phenomenal step forward. Compassion is just pouring-out for those who are being impacted by these terrible policies: immigration, war, drugs, disproportionate targeting of minorities, etc. Yep, but I’m sure that 2020 will make it all worthwhile, right? Right, let’s just hope that Republicans don’t get to gerrymander the majority of states again.
Damn, that was extensive. If your going to criticize something it would help to have some ideas on a solution and a realistic path to getting there but there is a lot of value in criticizing what you see as wrong even if you don’t know the perfect solution.
I hear you w/ Obama being dealt a shit hand but I personally think he did little to fight against more intervention in the Middle East because his donors & the ppl who will enrich him emensly in the future make money off those wars. Someone got the $6 trillion we’ve spent in Iraq & Afghanistan.
He also could’ve chosen to prosecute the financial executives on Wall Street who brought our country to its knees. But those financial heavy weights are also donors to him & his party and are the real shot callers. I love solutions and they’re obviously important but don’t poo poo someone calling out what’s wrong just because they don’t know exactly how to fix it
So you feel you have to justify your past endorsements of Corporate Democrats. Knock yourself out, I suppose. I was only interested in addressing the fallacy that there was “ground won” during the past two decades, a statement for which the defense is weak indeed.
I’m certainly not impressed by the following:
> he began the efforts to withdraw out of Iraq and actually began developing a “functioning” democracy there
Wrong. Both the withdrawal process and the democratization process were launched by Bush. The withdrawal of U.S. military forces from Iraq began in December 2007, i.e. 13 months before Obama took office. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Withdrawal_of_U.S._troops_from_Iraq
Obama continued the already ongoing withdrawal process and finished it. There are no reasons for us to assume that Bush would not have finished the process he began: such would be empty speculation.
I’m an enemy of Bush and Cheney, but the above was nothing but a distortion of the historical record to suit your endorsements. Boring.
Sorry but that poll is just ridiculous. Some answers are seemingly from a different universe. Take this answer:
The US wants to assert itself and send a message that we’re still willing to use force
What, like we weren’t using any force during the Obama years? (because that is what this answer implies). Obama was at war longer than any other president in history. Obama carried out ten times as many drone strikes as Bush did. Obama has bombed seven countries to Bush’s four countries. Etc., etc.
Someone who feels inclined to agree with the “the US wants to assert itself” part (which can be viewed as a reasonable option) would be forced to click on an answer that is implicitly laughable.
Sam Seder of the Majority Report agrees with Common Cause that Wolfpac’s article V would be extremely dangerous. I need to see an open discussion with TYT, Sam, and someone from Common Cause before I support Wolf Pac anymore.
In the meantime I will keep supporting TYT and Justice Democrats
This is a good point to bring up. However just to put a finer point on it, I hear Seder saying that article V would be nice but could never practically happen. I have also heard him take the position that the money in politics is a reality, and not any root cause of the problems in US politics.
Regardless, a debate would be great. TYT and Seder have conflicting takes on this matter, but both have been timid to outright voice the substance of their oppositions. I suspect that for TYT, it’s been mostly a matter of Cenk wanting to keep on message, which I totally understand. It would probably be very productive to have that conversation in earnest- either Cenk on MR, or Sam on TYT. I only have doubts that TYT and MR wouldn’t gain much from that debate (only the public really) so I am not holding my breath.
Seriously? No, the neoliberalization of the Democratic Party meant that ground was gained proportional to financial incentives and mobilized grassroots movements. I’m pretty sure we made more gains between 2009-2017 than we made between 1975-2001… Having authoritarian Republicans in full control of all of government means that activist is practically worthless in influencing their decisions, and now only the top 1% and the Military-Industrial-Complex actually matter. We have lost so much more than you seem to be able to comprehend, from opportunities to women’s rights and LGBTQ rights and the push towards Medicare buy-in to then single-payer. Those things will be insanely difficult to retake and achieve after this presidency is over, and the plutocracy will pretty much be solidified into the governing structure; whereas before, our push to take democracy back was being acknowledged and platformed by Democrats. Lots of people will die, here and abroad, solely because Americans just needed to “vote their conscience,” or not vote at all. It’s incredibly selfish and counterproductive, by all measures.
Drumpf never discussed international law, norms, or rules before because he was busy giving the finger to all three of them. Suddenly he’s interested in upholding international norms? Does that only happen when someone else is the perp, and is he suddenly not discussing them again when he’s the perp?
Drumpf doesn’t care about babies. He had a relative born with medical issues and literally removed the baby from care until they could figure out the money/inheritance distribution. Fortunately, the caregivers pushed to continue the baby’s care. I believe there was a court order forcing Drumpf to continue paying the medical bills until the money distribution could be worked out.
So they pretty much set off 59 missiles to do jack sh*t, oh no wait, now they can justify spending money on more meaningless weapons that should be going toward our economy, education, energy, fixing pipes, water & global warming. Bravo! Way to waste the moneys!
From a strictly procedural pov it was done constitutionally? You mean that when the gop refused to follow the constitution upon president obama nominating Merritt garland, like that procedure? Or the fact that when the new president nominated a guy more in line with the GOP ideology, they now want to skip the dog and pony show, and do there duty? Then the minority says no to him, and the GOP says, too bad, we will have him anyways, because they changed the rules…very procedurally sound, right?
They may not necessarily be “right” for the country, but the objective when choosing a candidate is to pick the one that you can influence the most. Obama and Hillary were influenceable — Trump isn’t. You can make reforms with a less-than-perfect candidate, but you can’t make reforms with authoritarians in charge of both the Executive and Legislative branches. Now we just lost what will likely be our only chance to flip the Supreme Court into having 5 Liberals to 4 Conservatives. That chance only happens once every two decades or so, if that, because the left hasn’t had that opportunity since the ’60s. Disapproving of the policies, of the candidate that most aligned with our priorities, is a good cause for activism — after winning the election — not after handing-it over to the Authoritarian right.
I’m sorry, but you are wrong about the second amendment, If you want to find out what the Founding Fathers thought about the second amendment. There is ample reading you can read on how they felt. Pick up a copy of the combined article that were published when the Constitution was getting ready to be ratified. It is called the Federalist Papers. It was written Alexander Hamilton, John Jay, James Madison. there are clear views of the second amendment. By the way most Americans believe it was Thomas Jefferson wrote the Constitution, sorry, he was in France when It was written. James Madison wrote the Constitution.
Actually, the second amendment says: “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” If you are an originalist, you would be on the side of arms for militia for security of the free state, not unabridged guns for everyone, with not checks. It is modern interpretation that says no checks on guns, government cannot take my guns.
Or just maybe he should stick to comedy if he doesn’t understand a damn thing about the political system. And he has “values,” give me a break. In no world does it make sense to let things get so terribly damaged for everyone else, simply because you refuse to compromise. Wtf does the MSM have to do with this, I obviously watch TYT, I may just be more politically astute than to give that pseudo political journalist any credence when he hasn’t earned any. We’re losing every little bit of ground that we gained throughout the past two decades, solely because our “values” meant electing a narcissistic psychopath instead of a “corporate democrat.” Gimme a break, it’s such a ridiculous argument to make, and clearly, a losing one as well.
>We’re losing every little bit of ground that we gained throughout the past two decades
What the fuck are you talking about? We’ve done nothing but lose ground over the past four decades. Getting a Democrat into office does not mean “ground won” for progressives. The neoliberalization and corruption of the Democratic Party ensured that it usually meant the opposite.
We have compromised our way to where we are now. Everything from the environment to social programs to prisons to military spending we have compromised our way to the very few getting everything while the very many have our very lives compromised. I’m done watching both parties incrementally change things only to enrich themselves and their circle, while our kids, our families and our people suffer. No more. Those are not my values and I will not compromise myself and say “that’s just how things are”.
My values are to live in an actual society where we do things to better that society, support our fellow citizens, and that will stop killing people.
The panel is so right about our malevolent militarism. And especially the manipulation of the public on the parts of our complicit media, that is ever so eager to peddle the narrative that our military-industrial-complex wants the American people to swallow.
It was a TYT Interview. It might not be up until Monday since the interview was held shortly after the live show on Friday. It’ll be up in the members section under TYT Interviews and eventually on YouTube too.
If I’m not mistaken even Wes Clark Jr. called him out on an episode of Old School. Anything regarding Putin or mother Russia and you were bound to find a comment. Some of the stuff he said was fairly reasonable until he started regurgitating Russian propaganda.
Yes, even Malcolm called him out (and steve) on a friday postgame. I actually really do think he was paid. the reason is because he was required to respond to every single criticism and cuz of the time he would spend on each one, he could spend a lot of time cuz he was paid to. I also ran into him on twitter one day & asked him if he was the Russian guy from the TYT members chat & he said yes. his twitter username either was the same one he had on here (dDerss) or looked very much like it for me to be able to identify it as such. Would be interesting to catch up with him to see how he is doing. Esp given that he was truly progressive as well, he would make comments on other non-Russian items as well & i remember them being rather progressive :)
It would be interesting to see what he’s up to. I think you’re right about him getting paid. I remember one of the frequent commenters telling me, before the election, about Clinton’s Correct the Record which paid people to push back against attacks on Clinton. I could see dDerss being the Russian equivalent. like you said, he was truly progressive on so many other issues but his Russia obsession sadly overshadowed any of his other good comments.
i just looked him up on twitter & he seems to be active, retweeting others mainly on twitter. i just sent him a msg asking him how he’s doing & that we’ve noticed his disappearance from the TYT members area :)
Jimmy Dore is a full-on Alex Jones-style conspiracy theorist who appears to lack any knowledge about how the US (or really ANY) government works, and TYT needs to stop giving him a platform at all.
The US govt is filled with war-profiteers & corporate oligarchs and their politician-leaches and lap-dogs. They are hypocrites who do not give a shit about anything other than their own power & wealth.
It’s naive to think that the US govt actually “cares” about its citizens.
I agree, and everyone knows that power hungry elites have corrupted the government through-and-through, but Jimmy Dore has these grandiose and fantastical views of what the end-goal should be, with absolutely no inclination to get it done properly. Please tell me again how Hillary Clinton wouldn’t be any worse than this, yea I’m sure she’d have launched a strike on the Assad regime without an AUMF or reaching-out to the UN Security Council. If anything, we would have a multilateral coalition, not the unilateral start of a war that will crush all American prospects to achieve any meaningful success for the foreseeable future. Jimmy is corrupting the minds of young Americans who are finally engaged, politically; but because of these ridiculously unrealistic expectations, we are taking far more steps backwards than forwards. He can’t defend a point by incorporating the reality that is American politics, so yea, I’m really not much of a fan of his.
Corrupting the minds of young Americans by making sense? I love how you package your BS to sound like you’re pragmatic. Those “grandiose and fantastical views” are called having values. You should try having some.
Uh oh, someone seems bothered by the fact that their mainstream bias wasn’t confirmed. Grow up and someday you’ll appreciate different points of views.
How is he a conspiracy theorist. Because he says he is dubious of government rhetoric? When the government wants to do something in a foreign land, and it is not giving money to Israel, they tend to be secretive about it. It is healthy to be skeptical. If you want to disagree, it is a semi-free country.
Politely beg to differ–
Jimmy isn’t raving about outer space, life extension technologies, the devil’s control of major sectors of the economy, and lucky for all of us, he keeps his shirt on. More seriously, though, look carefully at the machinations of the workings of some of the military-equipment suppliers, and go beneath the daily “non-news” with multiple sources like Mother Jones, The Week, the Atlantic, even New Yorker (which publishes some damn good investigative work), and on-line sources like Mining Awareness. But you must exercise caution with online stuff, of course. Do the research for yourself.
Putting this stuff together will help you get to the conclusion that no, he’s not a raving raver. For example, where else do you see the long-form work like the Atlantic, for example, and the connexion about the useless luxury building Trump built in Azerbaijan and his dirty moneygrubbing deals broken in The New Yorker?
Anybody who thinks warfare and death and destruction are beautiful is an absolute monster. Brian Williams and Fareed Zakaria obviously fall under that description, regardless of how many times Brian Williams came on TYT.
Neither one of those two people are nice guys. Knock it off and just call them as they are – pro-war propaganda spewers. You talk about spineless Democrats, well let’s not give anyone any more ammunition to call the rest of us progressives spineless; this is why we don’t run the country right now. We shouldn’t have the attitude of “well, they said bombing and war is beautiful, but they were so nice to me and came on my program and blah blah blah, so maybe they aren’t that bad after all…” instead of unequivocally blasting these freaks as war mongering monsters based on the evidence from their own mouths that proves that’s what they are. All that serves to do is strengthen their conviction that their propaganda is working, and when even we can’t take a strong, principled stand against the mass media propaganda pawns AND their propaganda ministers, then who will?
I love your show, your guests and the strong journalism that’s being presented on TYT, but we seriously need to make things like this personal, because unscrupulous bastards like Brian Williams and Fareed Zakaria will work to curry favour for yet another sickening, insane war, just like what happened during the Bush Bastard’s administration where the news media largely either turned a blind eye to what was happening or loudly supported “Our Dear Leader” Bush when he decided to kill and maim thousands of people, including innocent civilians, eventually inspiring the creation of ISIS.
The same altruistic principles that define progressive idealism also prevent progressives from doing the illegal/immoral shit that the right wing does to gain power.
This is an asymmetrical situation that demands progressives be far stronger to be equally effective.
It is also why progressives seldom hold power. The modern democratic socialist age (e.g. Scandinavia) is the exception, not the rule, and even in the most progressive areas of the world, people are still destroying the environment with polluting fossil tech anyway despite their supposedly lofty ideals.
As fossil fuel becomes more difficult to access, and global warming/pollution continues to erode the physical infrastructure of human life, expect progressive idealism to get harder to pursue. When people are desperate the first thing they jettison is morality.
I sure hope JR gets a gold watch for 15 years at TYT! After 15 years in a textile sweatshop my mom got a lousy, fake gold pin. After 25 years she retired, got no service award, but did get a pension which turned out to be a whopping $100 per month.
I guess that’s capitalism at its finest for the working class!
The panel made a lot of assumptions today. They launched 59 Tomahawks, and assumed Russian air defenses did not engage them. But the Russians said only 23 hit their targets, and no comment from the US to contest that or establish efficiency of the strike. These are not drones and not manned systems, there is really no issue if the Russians shot them down. Assuming that the strike was not as effective as it should have been because more than half the Tomahawks were shot down makes more sense than anything said on the nonsense.
As gar as the chemical attacks. As stated on the BBC either the Russians knew about it and hence deceived the world about removing Syria’s stockpile, or they didn’t know and hence Russians don’t have any leverage in Syria. I love Jimmy but his talk of false flag is a load of crap, and I have just about as much as evidence as he does.
Ballistic missile interception is difficult under the best conditions. You can still see footage from the early days of the second/current Gulf War on YouTube:
“Patriot Missile’s Success a Myth, Israeli Aides Say
By TIM WEINER,
Published: November 21, 1993
WASHINGTON, Nov. 20— Contradicting claims by the United States Army, Israeli officials say that Patriot missiles deployed to defend Israel from attacks by Iraqi Scud missile attacks in the Persian Gulf war intercepted next to none of the Scuds. ”
Removing parts of the SCUD to make room for more fuel doubled their range but it also made the SCUDs wobble in flight. The SCUDs were basically impossible to shoot down with a Patriot. Additionally, a mathematical error in the software from the conversion from binary to decimal (so stoooopid!) caused the internal clock of the Patriot radar to lose time, making it lose tracking if it had been on for any length of time more than a couple of hours.
So when it comes to any claims of shooting down ballistic missiles, be skeptical. That was over 20 years ago but human nature has not changed. People still make exaggerated claims of the efficacy of weapons systems.
As someone who designed inertial guidance for weapons I can state without equivocation that the Pentagon bought everything we built regardless of whether it functioned according to specification or not, because once the money was appropriated, they had to spend it or face budget cuts the following year. So when you hear generals protesting that they do not need all that funding for weapons systems also be skeptical. They do it for the optics, not because they actually care. Careers are made and destroyed in the military on the basis of politics just like everywhere else.
These are not ballistic missiles. None of what is referenced there applies to this situation. Tomahawks are cruise missiles, which are essentially small planes that carry a payload to their target. You don’t see it in the videos because the first stage is a rocket booster but that burns out quick and wings deploy and a jet engine engages. They fly slow and low but when detected can be shot down by aircraft or missiles quite easily. With the level of radars and SAM equipment the Russians brought to Syria, they should have been able to engage them. Far more likely that many were lost as opposed to deliberately not hitting the runway. Still waiting for statement from DoD on how many reached their target and if its different from the 23 the Russians said.
SCUDs are entirely different as they ballistic missiles and are extremely fast and approach from extreme altitude. It can outrun the shockwave of a missile detonation which is why there was a high failure rate with Patriot. The same is in no way true for cruise missiles like the Tomahawk.
Cruise missiles are slower, yes. They travel at subsonic speeds. They are not airplanes though.
Their navigational computers do not black out under high G forces. They can dodge an interceptor by adopting a wobbling trajectory if they have appropriate programming. Did they? Who knows? Such details are probably classified and I am not an expert.
Also, the capability of a ballistic missile to outrun a shock wave presumes that the guidance system has targeted the engine flame rather than the body of the missile. That also had nothing to do with the failure of the Patriot Missile against a wobbling SCUD. Modern interceptor missiles shift their aim from the flame to the body of the target on approach, and there is nothing stopping them from detonating in the extrapolated future path of the target if needed when the target is fast enough to outrun the blast. Interceptors do not have to ‘catch up’ to the target. They intercept at a right angle whenever possible because the target presents a larger profile from the side. So as it turns out, your statements, while true, are also misleading.
Some historical perspective on the severe disconnect between claim vs. reality is in order here. Unfortunately it makes the comment too long so I deleted it.
Given Trump’s track record, and his nearly total lack of competent staff, plus his tendency to wake up before dawn and tweet from the toilet, plus the historically exaggerated claims of the capability of military technology in general, it is my personal opinion that the reason so many of the cruise missiles failed to reach their targets is most likely a combination of deceit and incompetence combined with technical glitches.
Personally I doubt if the runway was ever a target, though probably only a post-Trump FOIA will ever uncover the truth (at least a slightly more credible version of it anyway). For all I know, the whole operation was a false flag that was staged, aided, and abetted by Russia, with the intention being to prop up the Trump presidency by making him look strong without actually doing any serious damage that could impair the Syrian forces from continuing the war on ‘radical Islamic terrorism’.
Then again, I am a nobody who designed inertial guidance during the early part of my career, so I obviously do not know what I am talking about. Admittedly. Take my opinion for what it is worth, just about nothing, like everyone else’s is too, in the lack of any formal disclosure of the truth from the inner circle.
Are you really that näive? Not everything is black and white, and especially this. You say assumptions are made, of course, with out being there as it happened to see it first-hand, you have to take gov’t agent at their word. I believe that he is giving his opinion, not stating a fact. Now, if you do not agree with his opinion, fine, but do you really think that the president would risk war over this? What would you call a military attack against a nation being supported by an ally, warning said ally ahead of said attack, and the same ally in which trump is being investigated for having inappropriate contact with prior to taking office?
Really? Naive is what you are going with. In short all I said was that maybe the airfield wasn’t totalled because not all of the missiles reached their targets. TYT commentators in this segment are speculating because its some kind of secret conspiracy. I did not say they are wrong, but they fixate on one possibility instead of being informative.
Well if you are referring to me, you can see by my belated reply to your refutation of my statements that I both admit to speculating (as do you) and also I dispute your claim that interceptors can take out a cruise missile with no problem.
Cruise missiles can endure much higher G forces than planes and they also are mostly engine/fuel and just one payload, so they do not have to carry a human or a huge complement of tech to sustain a human, or carry multiple weapons, or fly the ‘missing man’ formation in a precise air show, and that means their wings/airfoil are much smaller and simpler than on a plane also, as are their actuators and electronics. So they carry less weight overhead, they can evade better, and they present a smaller target than a plane too.
But then again, I really do not know what the success rate of any particular Russian interceptor is against any particular cruise missile. You could be right and I could be way off base. All I know is that the Patriot interceptor was shown after the fact to be almost completely ineffective against the SCUD despite the military claiming a high success rate and ‘Stormin’ Norman’ getting up in front of a video screen on a national news briefing to point to SCUDs that he claimed were intercepted, when a slow motion playback of that same newscast showed incontrovertibly that none of the three or so ‘intercepts’ he crowed about actually took place.
Also, during the Cold War, the Russians made exaggerated claims about their nuclear capability and the US propaganda machine ran with those numbers to prop up obscene levels of US spending on nuclear armaments. Meanwhile, the Russians were towing their aircraft carriers and destroyers with barge tugs during naval exercises because they could not keep the ship engines functioning reliably in the long term, and did not want to risk damaging them.
I personally designed electronics for inertial guidance that did not meet spec because the accelerometer sensor we were using was fundamentally incapable of it, and the Pentagon bought every piece right up until the project was cancelled by the congress. It was not the first time. I asked about it and was informed that was business as usual because they have to spend the money or lose it in the next budget.
So whatever capability the Russians have to down a Tomahawk cruise missile, I count on the reality being a far cry from the claims, regardless of who makes them.
It is all speculation at this point what actually happened. If it was collusion and a false flag, it was a ballsy one. That seems to me something that both Trump and Putin would gladly risk, given their prior actions, though with all the attention on the Trump/Russia connection they would probably have approached it carefully if they have any sense at all. Probably wink-wink nod-nod and a whisper on a park bench between lower level subordinates rather than email notification of a conspiratorial teleconference between heads of state.
I think though whether it was false flag or not we can safely state that Trump (or whoever planned the attack, since he delegates just about everything) probably never intended for the runway to be damaged, at least not significantly anyway. Interceptors would not be able to distinguish the targets those cruise missiles were after, so how did they manage to protect the airstrip? It would be a huge coincidence if all of the missiles targeting the runway were shot down. Far more likely that none of them targeted the runway, or maybe only one, just to make a single easily filled crater that would not interrupt Syria’s air capability significantly. But who knows?
Something else to keep in mind is that Jimmy plays the part of the left wing outsider on TYT. It is his self-defined role to speculate about the things that Cenk will not. If he starts making claims that his speculations are fact, he will have stepped outside the bounds of journalistic editorializing and entered Alex Jones territory. Nothing like that is happening. Jimmy speaks for those of us who want such possibilities floated openly and discussed, not those who run around claiming the moon landings never happened. There is a difference between healthy skepticism of Fearless Leader and lunacy.
Gorsuch should be impeached as an illegitimate SCOTUS justice as soon as the Democrats have the votes. That should be followed by a US Senate vote on the true nominee, Merrik Garland. That will probably require a 2/3 vote, so let’s get busy Justice Democrats!
Why can’t they take two minutes after they have uploaded the main show and the PG, then check with a browser that its working… simple! How fucking hard is it to… well finish your job? Surely part of the job is making sure we can access the content. They never bother to look at the comments section here or they would see that people are having problems with getting the content (I know because I just checked and hour 2 of the 4th of April is still only half of the hour).
These technical issues have been an ongoing thing with TYT for years now…why am I still a paying member?? I paid a year in advance and that year runs out in July…I guess itll be “Bye Felicia”…and back to youtube.
Its funny you say that because I just checked my email this morning and I just got charged my subscription today and to be honest its my one luxury, because after all my rent and food, fuel money to get to work etc. about 2 in 10 times when the time comes for TYT to charge my monthly fee, I have no money in the bank. So I go overdrawn and you get fined £6.60 and then everyday £6-10 until you next get a pay check or manage to get enough cash to deposit into the bank to balance your account .
@optimismpains If I read that correctly, why do you keep a subscription that ends up costing you money to which you don’t seem to have access? I mean, it’s none of my business what you do with your money, but it looks like you’re not at all happy. Just curious.
I’m sure TYT doesn’t want you to remain in a dire financial situation on their behalf.
I live in the UK, so it is 11pm at night when the main-show starts, so I really need a membership to download and watch the next day and to be honest, the amount of joy and connection I receive to progressive ideas and the best informative news source and commentary, is well worth it. I believe in TYT and the msg, whether it be when I watched Jordan take tyt-politics from the start and totally exploded the channel doing so much down to earth human investigative reporting, to Cenk talking about everything from African-Americans getting disproportionately shot and killed by police to money in politics and obviously I fucking adored Bernie Sanders and had such hope this past election that he could win and would have such a positive impact on America.
The best covered and play by play of the debates, the conventions and lastly the election was TYT, by a f**ing field goal. That is why, I am just a like minded brit, but I have gotten so much and want to support and give what I can back.
Thank you for doing this! How did you get the laggy playback to fix in your version? I noticed the Facebook Live recording was out of sync and you fixed it!
Okay, so for anyone using a Roku or Smart TV to try to watch this hour read this, it’ll save you a lot of grief:
After you download the file this fine gentleman posted and try to play it on a Smart TV or Roku in the Plex app, it will go back to being laggy/out of sync. You need to force the server to transcode the file. It’s very easy to change the settings for only this video (it won’t affect the rest of your videos/app settings overall) — play the file, open settings for that video in the playback/in-video menu and under “Playback” go to “Direct Play” and change it to “Disable”. Basically, the server is trying to play the file directly to take some of the load off its in-video processing but you don’t want that, you want it to transcode the file.
This will work to play this file on a Smart TV or Roku at only slightly diminished quality/resolution but won’t be laggy or out of sync and will play seamlessly. Sounds like a lot of effort just to watch Hour 1, but it’s really not as complicated as it sounds.
Please make it a priority to get the videos up ASAP for your paying members. Do not worry about writing lengthy descriptions until the next morning if necessary.
Aaron, with all these trolls and wannabes disparaging your great work, I just wanted to express a heartfelt thank you. Your wonderfully extensive descriptions are greatly appreciated by this gratefully paying member. Five minutes of reading can often buy me an hour+ of my life back, especially if Cenk is too Trump trump trumpy that day (I ain’t got time for that shit…).
Reading your masterpieces and I feel I’ve consumed the whole show, unless I’m just jonesing for Cenk’s soundboard or Ana’s sly knowing winks.
People, people, people cool your jets, just go to tytnetwork.com/live and skip to 34:34 (if it isn’t positioned there already). The whole two hours is sitting in the live feed slot where it’s been this whole time. I learned this little trick several weeks ago during an epidemic marathon of of video non postem and it’s served me well.
[this option provided you’re reading this before Monday 4/10]
How can Trump say with a straight face, NO MORE SYRIAN REFUGE BABIES, and then cry about DEAD SYRIAN BABIES? Is this a joke? The MSM is a joke, that is a FACT!
Disgusting what the MSM is doing. This is when Trump became president? Fareed Zakaria needs to take a couple hours and watch the movie “The American President” When Douglas, who portrays the President, after having to bomb a building, chided his staff for thinking this was a “Presidential” moment for him. He said this was the LEAST “presidential” thing he will ever do. What happened to America?
AAHHHH TYT at its finest again. No video and no TYT staff member commenting. Facebook link is out of sync and 20 mins shorter. Fantastic great job sad….
I see comments saying the video is black-screen but that it has been fixed. I still only see a black screen. All other videos have the image. Please fix. Much love. -S
Actually the rich oligarchs in US, Russia, Syria, Saudi arabia, etc. are all in on it. All sides profit from war. All of their respective militaries are just pawns.
The George Carlin line, “it’s a big club and you ain’t in it” has globalized.
“It’s a big club and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in The big club. By the way, it’s the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head with their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table has tilted folks. The game is rigged and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people . . . white collar, blue collar it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on. Good honest hard-working people continue, these are people of modest means . . . continue to elect these rich cocksuckers who don’t give a fuck about you. They don’t give a fuck about you . . . they don’t give a fuck about you. They don’t care about you at all . . . at all . . . at all, and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. That’s what the owners count on. The fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that’s being jammed up their assholes everyday, because the owners of this country know the truth. It’s called the American Dream cause you have to be asleep to believe it . . .”
The most sensible comment made. Yeah it’s frustrating but I would listen audio while I did interior renovation. Now it is sad bc I look forward but they’ll get it up, ha???? They’ll get it figured. Chin up everybody.
OMFG~!
It got fixed while I was writing the above.
I take credit for my energy healing the problem while
I skimmed the zillion comments.
Hey~! I, also, am TOO STRONG~!
~Upaya~
OOoooops~!
It’s not fixed after all. I thought the button for download lo res, which had been missing,
indicated the solution. Now I’m playing it….oh, fuck.
FuckItAll~!
Time to take up a collection to hire a pro who can manage this stuff~? Aaaarrrrrgh~!
Sorry TYT but high schoolers can do an infinitely better job at IT with almost no resources than the people you hire right now. It is a shame that a company like yours with a considerable amount of financial resources fails to hire a decent IT team.
On the stories, while I hate to say it the is nothing illegal about Gorsuch’a confirmation. From a pure procedural PoV it was done constitutionally.
On the issue of Syria, no one on either side denies that a chemical attack happened, not even the Russians. The difference is in who did it. That there was a strike on the town no one denies it, there were nearly 70 strikes on the town and its vicinity that day alone because the town is a major supply route (and has major supply depots as well in a nearby former Syrian army base) for the rebels who were conducting a successful offensive south of the town that pushed the Assad regime forces between 20 and 40 kms and the Hama-Latakia road, a major supply route for the regime, was under direct fire.
The Russian explanation is laughable and also dangerous. The way they described the attack means that the Russians know a chemistry different than the one we know because all chemical weapons are destroyed by heat. It is dangerous because it shows an irresponsibility by the main regime sponsor that ignores international norms set in stone that even Stalin himself did not break when Moscow was about to fall in 1941 and basically had a rule book for himself.
The “regime is winning so he doesn’t need to use it” also doesn’t apply here. The regime just lost anywhere between 2000 and 3000 sq Km of territory east of Damascus to the rebels, the rebels in March severed the main supply route to Damascus from Homs for 10 days. The offensive referenced above was the largest in nearly a year in that area and the regime only regained half of what it lost in that offensive. Not to mention anywhere between 80k and 100k armed rebels still fighting (excluding ISIS and the Kurds).
The regime that murdered 400k civilians, used chemical weapons and got away with it in 14 confirmed incidents that killed 1500 people doesn’t need excuses to use them again.
Finally on the strike. The strike was damaging and severe and it was mean to send a message (and Tillerson made that clear in his statements) and the first message was to China because 2 days before he said in an interview with the Financial Times that he will act alone if China does not make North Korea behave and guess who was at Mar-a-Lago on the night of the strike? Other messages were to Iran, Russia and allies of the US like Turkey and Egypt and it was meant as a deterrence because Russia has been expanding its reach to Egypt, Libya and Ethiopia and the American establishment is not happy with that for geo-political reasons.
I think the strike was a positive development because from the behavior of Assad and his sponsors it was obvious that they did not take negotiations or the “cease fire” seriously. If the US joins the negotiations actively the regime will probably take them seriously this time.
You can’t negotiate if you are not willing to play a hand.
“Sorry TYT but high schoolers can do an infinitely better job at IT with almost no resources than the people you hire right now.”
I can see that now. “Hey mom, I cannot possibly take the trash out because the Defender is about to land at hypersonic speed in the middle of a Star Trek convention and I have to go set Roman candles out in the parking lot.”
Get real. IT is no joke.
One thing members can do to help fix this is up your membership dues voluntarily. Put your money where your mouth is.
IT is no joke indeed (having suffered catastrophes myself from my own beloved IT department) but it is definitely not hard enough to screw it every time.
A friend of mine was an intern in relatively big company in the early 2000s (just when broadband became cheap and streaming became a thing) and he successfully set up an excellent streaming service for the entire company along with 3 other interns and this service guaranteed a 1 Gbit/s per connection and as far as I understand it the structure of that system remains the same.
In college we had an illegal torrent sharing/streaming network (in the early 2000s, it was shutdown after a lawsuit threat) that was simultaneously used by 8000 kids and was setup and administered by 5 guys and they only had Pentium IVs among them.
If college kids could do it then TYT can and it won’t cost them much more than what they currently pay for their IT service. Trust me, the most expensive thing TYT will have to pay for in network security and even that is relatively cheap.
Cenk, Ana, John, Jimmy, etc. are the only ones that actually take any pride.
The rest Fucking Suck! This kind of shit happens very very often, and it is Not acceptable.
So Pathetic at how inconsistent this is!
Cenk You need to demand more of these people!!
Hey dipshit sorry excuse for a Polak gentile. WOULD YOU FUCKING PLEASE POST THESE WITHIN AN HOUR OF THE FUCKING SHOW ENDING LIKE IT USED TO BE? DO YOU THINK YOU COULD PLEASE FUCKING MANAGE THAT FOR US? HUH ? YOU FUCK SHITHEEL GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER!
This is distigusting. No one on here has insulted the staff except you. That is an unacceptible way to act, no matter if you’re on the internet or in person. Would you say that to Aaron’s face in person? I hope not, and if you would, I think you should be on the Trump train, not here at TYT.
Aaron. You beautiful man, you. I thought FOR SURE this would be up by now. I went out with some buddies. Had a few beers, had great times. I thought FOR SURE I’d be able to come home and enjoy my Friday TYT power panel. I thought, there’s no way he could fuck this up as poorly as he’s fucked up before this. And even if he does, all will be well and righted by the time I get home. Nope. You screwed the pooch again, you miserable incompetent ingrate.
The next time you intend on uploading a video, try this: Jerk yourself off. Fall asleep. Wake up. Go home. Have an early evening nap. Wake up again and realize you’re fucking thousands of members out of the content they pay for on a regular basis. Remind yourself that TYT remains generally unrecognized as a legitimate news media outlet and that basic consistency is a must, especially for your paying members that keep you afloat, especially considering the YouTube ad revenue debacle of late. Then call Gigi. Have her upload the video/audio with a short but relevant blurb about what we are about to watch.
That whole sequence of events would be more productive than what you did today.
jesus… do you know how fucking difficult it is to write up those descriptions…. the kids tryna move up in the world, hes a major fuck up, and probably wont get anywhere with his shit for brains, but…. at least we can lay off him for posting late. lol
I pay for my membership a year at a time, I love TYT. I’ve a bunch of shirts, a water bottle, a beanie…
Am I irritated that the first hour was so late and that it has no video? Yes. Would I cancel my membership over this issue? No. If we all pulled our money we would actually set TYT back and quality, as well as timeliness, would drop off sharply.
Feel free to vent, express displeasure, but remember, Cenk, Ana, Jon, Jayar, Steve, Dave, Jesus, Jimmy, Ben, and the rest of the crew count on our memberships to keep the day to day running of the show paid.
Stop hating on TYT! Unlike the MSM, TYT doesn’t have huge corporate sponsors like big pharma or big oil. TYT’s budget is relatively small and paid for by members. In fact, an MSM on-air talent’s salary is orders of magnitude larger than TYT’s entire operating budget. Technical snafus are much more common when one’s operating budget is small. Yes, MSM doesn’t have black screen videos but they clear all their stories through big pharma, big oil, the government, and others before airing. I wouldn’t trade TYT for anything like that. Black screens and all.
Nobody is talking about jumping ship over this. But this is not a budget issue, its a Friday issue. There is something wrong going on that specific day of the week because the lion’s share of these snafu’s happen with the Friday show. TYT management needs to take a look at this.
So much more true than the 100% mentioned earlier. TYT are revolutionaries, like our Founding Fathers, and they’re bound to break their Internet every few days or so because they are #TooStrong. $10/month to be a member is the best investment I’ve made since they hooked me up with an Aspiration Bank checking account, too. I’ve wanted to #divest for quite awhile, but even the best credit unions still have limits. Aspiration does not. I can’t wait to give them my money rather than Wells Fargo. TYT gets way too many looks in the mouth for a free, fair, and honest gift horse.
Can we get our money back??? Just kidding. But it would be nice to see some video in addition to the wonderful audio. I kind of like looking at people’s faces, especially online.
TYT is thankfully an ongoing process. I assure you that the stream is just #TooStrong. Seems like Dave has been posting these videos less often lately (good), but there’s going to be a transition while Irina and Aaron figure this out in the next few days. Keep Calm Revolution Continues!
Where is the video? I can only hear the audio! I lost my internet for 12 hours today because Oregon had windstorm so I wasn’t able to watch live! not only that I am hard of hearing if can’t the video then I struggle with audio and you don’t have captioning so it makes it really difficult to hear!
Open suggestions, on a chance someone that can make decisions sees this…
1. Fix your servers latency, why do pages take tremendous amounts of time to load? Who is hosting your site? And why is it loading pages like the dial-up days?
2. Put out an actual mobile application, I don’t know what that one out there is used for because you can’t log in to it and it seems abandoned.
3. Why does uploading take so long? Honestly YouTube handles this for you. Just hit upload, and put a link on a page on a website. It’s not a difficult task.
I haven’t been a member long, but your technical issues are making it such that I might not be for much longer. You’re charging for a premium service, honestly this costs more per month than Netflix, which is fine but you need to bring a professionally ran site and mobile app if you’re going to do that, like Netflix does. Hire a couple developers with the next batch of hiring, they are far more needed than more reporters.
This really is terrible. I never complain about a damn thing and am constantly trying to get my friends, coworkers, and family to listen to you guys. My best friend is very tech savvy but got tired of having to download your app multiple times through a bunch of hoops just to get the show. I end up doing for everyone. The message you guys have is powerful and necessary. The time and dedication is unparalleled. I donate a ton of $ to your causes. But it is counterproductive for you to work so diligently at something only to have the message fade because of a poor feed. Please, ditch all efforts to grow other programs and spice up production until I can tell people what time to watch your show and actually have them watch it. I promise you are losing valuable viewers and donations. Trust me, it’s my family and friends. I love what you guys do and constantly brainstorm ways to help it catch on. But I need some consistency or the product is just too tough a sell. Thx TYT and I hope you find this supportive and helpful. Keep up the good work!
Hey guys mistakes happen I get it. DON’T SWEAT IT PLEASE. my membership has always been about supporting you guys because y’all are my truth tellers. I’ll enjoy the podcast and I’ll tune in again for the video version. Don’t seat people’s bitching I work customer service so I know how much it can hurt especially when you actually are trying to help the customer CHEER UP Y’ALL
I think we are all exercising our right to hold TYT ACCOUNTABLE since we are their supporters.
We are supposed to hold them to a higer standard and to just brush off these epic screw ups and just give them a break everytime would be for us, the people, their supports, to NOT hold them ACCOUNTABLE.
Cenk has said this many times that TYT only answers to US the supporters.
For real man? This is the MOST IMPORTANT NEWS DAY OF 2017!!!!!!!!! We may be about to be going into a frickin war, and those of us who trust you with this information won’t be able to get it in video until what, Monday?!?
When this happens I normally just say “no big deal,” but this is different by all accounts. Now I have to either get it through some bullshit mainstream news source that is paid for by the military industrial complex, or watch 15 of your YouTube clips as they are released throughout the weekend.
This isn’t cool though, not at all. It’s fine to have some issues, but when shit this important happens, you need to make sure that everything is squared away before you go home for the weekend because many of us just can’t watch the show live, like ever.
Oh god I know exactly how you feel man, right there with you. I tried listening to NPR’s coverage of this and I was disgusted. I used to love NPR, thinking I was getting more facts, but god after becoming a TYT member I listen to NPR’s coverage on Trump and war stuff and I can’t tell the difference between it and CNN or some other mainstream outlet, there’s no difference anymore. I need my TYT to feel like I’m not being lied to.
Yea, I really enjoy listening to the Majority Report as well. I actually love MR, but they cover everything so much earlier in the day that I know they won’t have all of the information that TYT will have accumulated by 6pm. TYT also does only the news, and as for the MSM, I’ll read my news before I actually get my coverage for them. I read the news most days anyways, but it’s sad that I get so much more substance just by spending 20 minutes reading than I would watching CNN for three hours. So yea, I really enjoy watching TYT after my day is over with, because I do want to see the videos and the interactions lol. Plus, they aggregate much of the noteworthy news from the MSM, so you can catch it all in one place.
I’ll come work to TYT, been doing all aspects of IT for 20 years, including media and content production and editing, and web site design and implementation.
Come on. I work all day and look forward to coming home and unwinding to TYT. That’s why I became a member. It would be one thing if this happened only once in awhile. But it’s like every week a show is posted a day late or some BS like this. Obviously you want to deliver, but god damn if you ever want to beat CNN in actual income you need to make this shit consistent.
As a member, I feel like I deserve a personalized apology whenever I’m not able to watch a VOD same day. I don’t understand you guys are prioritizing putting clips on youtube before making VOD’s available to your paying members. It takes more work to clip up the show anyway. You should instead upload the whole show here first, then get to work cutting it up into clips for youtube. As a member I feel taken for granted whenever this happens.
Talk about epic fuckups – this is literally adding insult to injury!
We waited 4+ hours for an audio only video?? At this point you guys are better off just outsourcing this work to a 3rd party as I am pretty sure it will get done in a more timely manner.
Shit, I’ll do it as I’ve done video editing for the Yankees with a 1hr turn around online sport highlight for every single game back in 2005 for the Real Networks.
Nevertheless, I blame management for these epic unbelievable screw ups as if they were stricter on these guys doing the editing and uploading this shit wouldn’t happen every other day so consistently.
Nevertheless, its only a matter of time till I hit that CANCEL button.
I think they’ve raised enough money to hire 1, a proper crew to handle this task or 2, a reputable company that can gaurentee their services cause what they did and are doing now just aint working.
I understand shit happens but your tech issue are starting to become pretty frequent. Still love you guys but get it together so we all can enjoy your righteous content
Normally, turn around on getting the episodes up for members isn’t like this but days like this are annoying. Four hours after the entire show ends we get audio but no video (normally the first hour is up with video within the hour of the end of the show.
Did someone call in sick today? I mean, I get it, things happen, but this is a long time to wait when the only thing that should need doing is cutting the breaks.
For the #1 digital news show, they sure can’t get their technical shit together, like, at all. Can’t even post a comment without re-loading the video. What is this, 1996?
Does this Jimmy Dore Show do full length videos for their members? I’d really like to know since Aggressive Progressives is my favorite program on TYT Network, but Jimmy’s YouTube page only has clips, not full episodes of his content. I actually really hate it when episodes are chopped up into clips for YouTube. YouTube already has a way to set bookmarks for your video, so for those impatient people you can add an ‘index’ of your ‘chapters’ to the video description, way more professional this way and its less work that clipping and individually uploading the videos.
I’d pay my money straight to Jimmy Dore for full episodes of his show.
Friday night strikes again. For some reason the uploads get screwed more often than not on this day of the week. Staff eager to leave for weekend and stuff gets missed?
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Negative, and look, I understand that only a minority of those who are politically involved, actually study or do in-depth research on the topic of U.S. foreign policy, but you’ve got to read further than the summaries and look into it more than the commentaries heard. Most importantly though, and the reason why the graduate field of international relations is dominated by a liberal majority, you absolutely have to use critical-thinking as well as place things into context — contexts that often won’t be mentioned.
Modern foreign policy is just too complicated to take things at face value, or to assume that — in a Democracy — any one person is fully responsible for bad decisions and/or good decisions. Now, you’re talking about the U.S.-Iraq Status of Forces Agreement of 2008, and yes, Bush did negotiate this with the Prime Minister of Iraq at the time, Nouri al-Maliki. However, al-Maliki was getting in bed with Iran, taking and bribes and such and allowing their massive influence into the Iraqi political process. Bush knew this before striking the agreement, but did it anyways — probably hoping that his successor would manage to fix it.
Thing is though, it’s well-documented that Bush neglected to pay attention to Wall Street and the healthcare crisis that was devastating the country. It’s also well-documented that for the first 18-20 months of Obama’s presidency, the White House staff were working non-stop, and their morale was quite low because of how much time they spent putting-out Recession-caused fires, only to then immediately push for the ACA as hard as possible. Also, the stability gained in Afghanistan was receding in 2009, because of the surge in Iraq which led to the neglect of operations in Afghanistan.
Obama immediately drew-down troop deployments in Iraq, something Bush hadn’t done or planned on doing (he felt he HAD to make Iraq work), and went with Biden’s plan to do a surge in Afghanistan from late ’09-’11 and with the “Hearts and Minds” strategy, a ton of ground was gained with minimal U.S. and Afghan Troops, and civilian casualties. By 2012, we drew-down by over 50% in Afghanistan. Meanwhile, from 2009 to 2011, we had way fewer combat troops in Iraq, mostly logistics and those focused on the troop drawdown and training of Iraqis. The main focus was on our diplomats training theirs, and attempting to help them build a platform for their democracy: free elections, free press, religious freedom, etc..
So through all that, Obama didn’t have the time or incentive to pay attention to al-Maliki’s ties to Iran, and then right after we left Iraq, the Syrian Civil War broke into a deadly conflict, the U.N. led an intervention on Libya due to fears that Gaddafi would terrorize his people and cause more instability in the region. After that, al-Maliki’s Iranian Shiite connections kicked-in, and violent and political Sunni suppression began in Iraq, once again.
Because of the deal, the reelection campaign, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, Russia, North Korea, and on, and on; Obama had very little time or will to renegotiate with al-Maliki — by then, pretty much an authoritarian tyrant — and thus, Obama pushed for the U.N. Security Council to help us build a coalition in the region. In 2014, this coalition and the U.N. managed to force al-Maliki to step-down, and operations in Iraq began once again — but with very few U.S. troops, which also leads to more civilian casualties because of the unreliable eyes on the ground.
It’s also a myth that complete non-intervention will lead to problems sorting themselves out there. Absolutely not, they will intensify because the school of Wahhabism is only getting stronger due to outside funding and droughts, poverty, political instability in many nations or parts of nations. No one actually knew how to deal with this, Wahhabism is a new threat that didn’t really exist like this until the Taliban took over Kabul in 1994. I’d explained that and Saudi Arabia’s Wahhabi NGOs’ influence on Afghan orphans throughout the Afghan-Soviet War (1979-1989) as well, but it would take another massive and lengthy post.
Basically, corporate democrats didn’t live-up to our expectations. But most of us only just awoke, or have been sleeping at the wheel for the past 15-20 years. The world, though, actually is much safer today than at any time before. Literacy rates, worldwide, are much higher than ever before. The Democratic Peace Theory that was adopted by the vast majority of neoliberals, did succeed in increasing the standard-of-living and the accessibility to resources worldwide. The problem though, is that we’ve had too many ideological, bought, and corrupt politicians — the VAST majority of which have been Republican — steered our influence towards indebting ourselves so that they could try and spread their beliefs across the world. This backfired, but now we’re starting that same bullshit again. “Corporate Democrats” have responded to social movements much better than Republicans, they are easier to push in the right direction, and they are far more welcoming to different ideologies within their own party.
There’s no way around this reality, no matter how much anyone tries to justify their “conscious votes,” we fucked up big time. Just because you aren’t directly affected by these initial policies, millions of Americans are… Hundreds-of-millions will be displaced worldwide because of oil-first policies, war intensifications, and corporate profiteering as well as plutocratic and authoritarian greed. Sure, the Clinton Foundation took money from bad and greedy people, but they also spent a ton to fund humanitarian aid in the poorest parts of the world. Whether you can come to grips with it or not, that’s the best way that they could find to make a long-lasting difference, which is far more than the vast majority of us can say.
It might be a good idea to let members know when new shows will be posted. Just sayin’
NEW 10 APRIL VIDEO NOT UPLOADED YET? WATCH FULL EPISODE INCLUDING POSTGAME HERE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcPa7I3_SFI
Apr. 10, 2017 hour 1?
Both hours one and two + postgame are in that one 3:18:35 long video. Scroll to -2:26:00 (yes, negative hours) for the start of hour one.
Thank you
Thanks for the link since they apparently don’t really give a damn about paying members lately.
I agree they need a debate that is how we solve issues
LPT: To see today’s vids before they’re belatedly posted here, go back to https://tytnetwork.com/memberslive/ start playing (video will be positioned at the end of the Postgame) then scroll the slider back to -2:26:00 or thereabouts. Enjoy the full 2.5 hours of Ana/John goodness (sans Cenk).
Wow, you’re right, THANK YOU!
I could be wrong but I think it’s not immediately available (sometimes it says “broadcast ended…”) but it is working now… Thanks again!
These should be posted much much fast invest in your IT staff or you are going to lose members.
Aaron. Get your fucking shit together. These videos are consistently coming out later and later. You’d think with youtube fucking up their ad revenue so drastically that they’d put a little more focus on catering to their paying members.
I kind of agree with jettienne. I love you guys, I’ve been a member for years. But seriously it isn’t a one off thing. I don’t want to have to wait until the next day to watch tonight’s episode. Especially when we pay a subscription.
These are long ass descriptions: Someone is attempting to earn their paycheck.
It is almost 10pm over here in NYC and once again no video. Friday was a complete shit show with this same issue now Monday it repeats. This is seriously unacceptable!
Y’all are givin me a baaaaaad case of the Monday blues balls. POST THE VID I RELY ON U
Disappointing, I signed up so I can watch it after work.
Man be for real here, once again — just like Jimmy Dore — a Democrat’s flaws are underlined without any mention of solutions. Meanwhile, there’s definitely no coherent mention of how we can get the most populated and decentralized democracy in the world, the United States of America, to implement such solutions. For one, progressives have many, many goals that they want to achieve, and within this group, there still isn’t a concrete consensus around “what” is the right method to reform government. We all know what we want, but very few actually know how to get it done when it comes to the reality of politics.
For example, you mentioned that Obama has bombed 7 countries instead of Bush’s 4, but Obama came into office amidst two gigantic war efforts and a Great Recession. For one, you can’t start downsizing the military in the middle of an economic downturn — especially not one like that — because the most tried-and-true method to recovery employs the principles of Keynesian Economics, meaning you need to increase public sector employment, not reduce it.
Secondly, he began the efforts to withdraw out of Iraq and actually began developing a “functioning” democracy there — something that the Bush Administration (especially Cheney and Rumsfeld) purposely neglected in order for defense contractors to profit for as long as possible. Obama didn’t do that, instead, he used the cheapest and most effective methods (special ops and drone programs) to cut-down on spending while reducing the amount of casualties.
Third, the Wahhabi-led insurgency fallback in Yemen, Syria, Pakistan, Libya, its resurgence in Afghanistan, the threat it imposes in Somalia, and the post-withdrawal devastation that ensued in Iraq were all largely due to the Bush Administration’s blatant arrogance and failure in Iraq. By having Cheney elevate al-Baghdadi for no good reason, other than to scare people into going to war, he created the future leader of what would become ISIS. Then, their firing of most of Saddam’s Sunnis in government and the military (a majority), they created an extremely high unemployment rate that al-Qaeda took complete advantage of.
So, Obama was far from being the “perfect liberal,” but his opposition to pointless wars never changed. The problem is that leaving those places to fend for themselves a rift has already been created, is a terrible idea, i.e. Syrian civil war in Afghanistan, and eventually, in many other nations. The number of war-related civilian deaths under Obama is also significantly lower than during Bush’s tenure — even with drone strikes — because of a massive change in the ROEs and a “Hearts & Minds” primary objective in the conducting of foreign policy. Much more trust between the U.S. and those countries has developed as well, which is also costing us less than the discriminate bombings and invasions of cities under Bush. If you add the number of future civilian casualties related to Bush’s total blunder with Iraqi foreign policy, then groups like ISIS and Al-Nusra, al-Qaeda in Yemen, and al-Shabaab bring influence by ISIS have led to significantly more casualties than Obama.
Trump is already approaching Obama’s total civilian casualty count, he’s not there yet, but holy shit he’s already killed over 200 civilians within his first two months!
But let us pretend that a real progressive, in the White House, would be able to fix all of that immediately. We don’t have dictators; although we may have a plutocratic-authoritarian executive soon enough. And please don’t go on about Obama having suspended “Habeas Corpus,” because it isn’t true whatsoever. That exception only applies to individuals clearly involved with terrorism, and who are captured by the military in war zones. No American, even if they are working for ISIS, who gets arrested by the police or the FBI, can get their right to challenge their detention permanently suspended.
Under no circumstances do Obama’s justify letting this maniac into the White House. Yep, Clinton was a bad candidate, but the country’s democratic base had only just awoken. Under her and after her, we could’ve accomplished so, so much. We were all ready to organize and push back on day 1, and it would’ve made a MASSIVE DIFFERENCE! But now, all the organizing in the world will get us little more than an even larger prison population, all while the MIC and the Private Prison industry continue to profit at our expense. What a phenomenal step forward. Compassion is just pouring-out for those who are being impacted by these terrible policies: immigration, war, drugs, disproportionate targeting of minorities, etc. Yep, but I’m sure that 2020 will make it all worthwhile, right? Right, let’s just hope that Republicans don’t get to gerrymander the majority of states again.
i havent been on TYT for about 18 months. Nice to see comments section back. well done!!!
Damn, that was extensive. If your going to criticize something it would help to have some ideas on a solution and a realistic path to getting there but there is a lot of value in criticizing what you see as wrong even if you don’t know the perfect solution.
I hear you w/ Obama being dealt a shit hand but I personally think he did little to fight against more intervention in the Middle East because his donors & the ppl who will enrich him emensly in the future make money off those wars. Someone got the $6 trillion we’ve spent in Iraq & Afghanistan.
He also could’ve chosen to prosecute the financial executives on Wall Street who brought our country to its knees. But those financial heavy weights are also donors to him & his party and are the real shot callers. I love solutions and they’re obviously important but don’t poo poo someone calling out what’s wrong just because they don’t know exactly how to fix it
So you feel you have to justify your past endorsements of Corporate Democrats. Knock yourself out, I suppose. I was only interested in addressing the fallacy that there was “ground won” during the past two decades, a statement for which the defense is weak indeed.
I’m certainly not impressed by the following:
> he began the efforts to withdraw out of Iraq and actually began developing a “functioning” democracy there
Wrong. Both the withdrawal process and the democratization process were launched by Bush. The withdrawal of U.S. military forces from Iraq began in December 2007, i.e. 13 months before Obama took office.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Withdrawal_of_U.S._troops_from_Iraq
Obama continued the already ongoing withdrawal process and finished it. There are no reasons for us to assume that Bush would not have finished the process he began: such would be empty speculation.
I’m an enemy of Bush and Cheney, but the above was nothing but a distortion of the historical record to suit your endorsements. Boring.
Sorry but that poll is just ridiculous. Some answers are seemingly from a different universe. Take this answer:
What, like we weren’t using any force during the Obama years? (because that is what this answer implies). Obama was at war longer than any other president in history. Obama carried out ten times as many drone strikes as Bush did. Obama has bombed seven countries to Bush’s four countries. Etc., etc.
Someone who feels inclined to agree with the “the US wants to assert itself” part (which can be viewed as a reasonable option) would be forced to click on an answer that is implicitly laughable.
Sam Seder of the Majority Report agrees with Common Cause that Wolfpac’s article V would be extremely dangerous. I need to see an open discussion with TYT, Sam, and someone from Common Cause before I support Wolf Pac anymore.
In the meantime I will keep supporting TYT and Justice Democrats
This is a good point to bring up. However just to put a finer point on it, I hear Seder saying that article V would be nice but could never practically happen. I have also heard him take the position that the money in politics is a reality, and not any root cause of the problems in US politics.
Regardless, a debate would be great. TYT and Seder have conflicting takes on this matter, but both have been timid to outright voice the substance of their oppositions. I suspect that for TYT, it’s been mostly a matter of Cenk wanting to keep on message, which I totally understand. It would probably be very productive to have that conversation in earnest- either Cenk on MR, or Sam on TYT. I only have doubts that TYT and MR wouldn’t gain much from that debate (only the public really) so I am not holding my breath.
Common Cause Texas Branch phone number still works @ 512-621-9787. We can flood local chapters with phone calls!
This is wrong headed
Seriously? No, the neoliberalization of the Democratic Party meant that ground was gained proportional to financial incentives and mobilized grassroots movements. I’m pretty sure we made more gains between 2009-2017 than we made between 1975-2001… Having authoritarian Republicans in full control of all of government means that activist is practically worthless in influencing their decisions, and now only the top 1% and the Military-Industrial-Complex actually matter. We have lost so much more than you seem to be able to comprehend, from opportunities to women’s rights and LGBTQ rights and the push towards Medicare buy-in to then single-payer. Those things will be insanely difficult to retake and achieve after this presidency is over, and the plutocracy will pretty much be solidified into the governing structure; whereas before, our push to take democracy back was being acknowledged and platformed by Democrats. Lots of people will die, here and abroad, solely because Americans just needed to “vote their conscience,” or not vote at all. It’s incredibly selfish and counterproductive, by all measures.
> now only the top 1% and the Military-Industrial-Complex actually matter
Bush bombed four countries during his tenure. Obama bombed seven countries during his tenure. Which one do you think the Military Industrial Complex prefers? https://www.poynter.org/2014/fact-checking-the-war-comparisons-between-obama-and-bush/272471/
Drumpf never discussed international law, norms, or rules before because he was busy giving the finger to all three of them. Suddenly he’s interested in upholding international norms? Does that only happen when someone else is the perp, and is he suddenly not discussing them again when he’s the perp?
Drumpf doesn’t care about babies. He had a relative born with medical issues and literally removed the baby from care until they could figure out the money/inheritance distribution. Fortunately, the caregivers pushed to continue the baby’s care. I believe there was a court order forcing Drumpf to continue paying the medical bills until the money distribution could be worked out.
So they pretty much set off 59 missiles to do jack sh*t, oh no wait, now they can justify spending money on more meaningless weapons that should be going toward our economy, education, energy, fixing pipes, water & global warming. Bravo! Way to waste the moneys!
Trump ia very much to be influenced. The corporate dems are more behind the back about it.
From a strictly procedural pov it was done constitutionally? You mean that when the gop refused to follow the constitution upon president obama nominating Merritt garland, like that procedure? Or the fact that when the new president nominated a guy more in line with the GOP ideology, they now want to skip the dog and pony show, and do there duty? Then the minority says no to him, and the GOP says, too bad, we will have him anyways, because they changed the rules…very procedurally sound, right?
They may not necessarily be “right” for the country, but the objective when choosing a candidate is to pick the one that you can influence the most. Obama and Hillary were influenceable — Trump isn’t. You can make reforms with a less-than-perfect candidate, but you can’t make reforms with authoritarians in charge of both the Executive and Legislative branches. Now we just lost what will likely be our only chance to flip the Supreme Court into having 5 Liberals to 4 Conservatives. That chance only happens once every two decades or so, if that, because the left hasn’t had that opportunity since the ’60s. Disapproving of the policies, of the candidate that most aligned with our priorities, is a good cause for activism — after winning the election — not after handing-it over to the Authoritarian right.
Cenk’s argument about California and original intent is ridiculous. The constitution outlines how to annex new states.
I’m sorry, but you are wrong about the second amendment, If you want to find out what the Founding Fathers thought about the second amendment. There is ample reading you can read on how they felt. Pick up a copy of the combined article that were published when the Constitution was getting ready to be ratified. It is called the Federalist Papers. It was written Alexander Hamilton, John Jay, James Madison. there are clear views of the second amendment. By the way most Americans believe it was Thomas Jefferson wrote the Constitution, sorry, he was in France when It was written. James Madison wrote the Constitution.
Actually, the second amendment says: “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” If you are an originalist, you would be on the side of arms for militia for security of the free state, not unabridged guns for everyone, with not checks. It is modern interpretation that says no checks on guns, government cannot take my guns.
Or just maybe he should stick to comedy if he doesn’t understand a damn thing about the political system. And he has “values,” give me a break. In no world does it make sense to let things get so terribly damaged for everyone else, simply because you refuse to compromise. Wtf does the MSM have to do with this, I obviously watch TYT, I may just be more politically astute than to give that pseudo political journalist any credence when he hasn’t earned any. We’re losing every little bit of ground that we gained throughout the past two decades, solely because our “values” meant electing a narcissistic psychopath instead of a “corporate democrat.” Gimme a break, it’s such a ridiculous argument to make, and clearly, a losing one as well.
Corporate democrat may be sufficient for you, but some do nt agree that they are right for country.
>We’re losing every little bit of ground that we gained throughout the past two decades
What the fuck are you talking about? We’ve done nothing but lose ground over the past four decades. Getting a Democrat into office does not mean “ground won” for progressives. The neoliberalization and corruption of the Democratic Party ensured that it usually meant the opposite.
We have compromised our way to where we are now. Everything from the environment to social programs to prisons to military spending we have compromised our way to the very few getting everything while the very many have our very lives compromised. I’m done watching both parties incrementally change things only to enrich themselves and their circle, while our kids, our families and our people suffer. No more. Those are not my values and I will not compromise myself and say “that’s just how things are”.
My values are to live in an actual society where we do things to better that society, support our fellow citizens, and that will stop killing people.
The panel is so right about our malevolent militarism. And especially the manipulation of the public on the parts of our complicit media, that is ever so eager to peddle the narrative that our military-industrial-complex wants the American people to swallow.
Did Cenk say he did a debate with a congressman about money in politics? If so where an I find this?
It was a TYT Interview. It might not be up until Monday since the interview was held shortly after the live show on Friday. It’ll be up in the members section under TYT Interviews and eventually on YouTube too.
Good, question, I wish I could see this before monday.
Am I the only one who is bothered by the bottom middle screen always being slightly off from the rest of the background?
No you’re not the only one.
agreed
I’m annoyed by it too. Noticed it about 2 weeks ago . hahaha
WTF Brian Williams?! I am tempted to quote Leonard Cohen to you: You want it darker. We kill the flame.
What ever happened to dDerss? https://greasyfork.org/nb/scripts/26937-hide-certain-tyt-member-s-comments/code
I had been wondering the same thing!
I wonder where he went?
Use to be Cenk couldn’t sneeze in Russia’s direction and he would roll out a mile long dissertation!
The election is over. Lost interest/funding.
If I’m not mistaken even Wes Clark Jr. called him out on an episode of Old School. Anything regarding Putin or mother Russia and you were bound to find a comment. Some of the stuff he said was fairly reasonable until he started regurgitating Russian propaganda.
Yes, even Malcolm called him out (and steve) on a friday postgame. I actually really do think he was paid. the reason is because he was required to respond to every single criticism and cuz of the time he would spend on each one, he could spend a lot of time cuz he was paid to. I also ran into him on twitter one day & asked him if he was the Russian guy from the TYT members chat & he said yes. his twitter username either was the same one he had on here (dDerss) or looked very much like it for me to be able to identify it as such. Would be interesting to catch up with him to see how he is doing. Esp given that he was truly progressive as well, he would make comments on other non-Russian items as well & i remember them being rather progressive :)
It would be interesting to see what he’s up to. I think you’re right about him getting paid. I remember one of the frequent commenters telling me, before the election, about Clinton’s Correct the Record which paid people to push back against attacks on Clinton. I could see dDerss being the Russian equivalent. like you said, he was truly progressive on so many other issues but his Russia obsession sadly overshadowed any of his other good comments.
i just looked him up on twitter & he seems to be active, retweeting others mainly on twitter. i just sent him a msg asking him how he’s doing & that we’ve noticed his disappearance from the TYT members area :)
Jimmy Dore is a full-on Alex Jones-style conspiracy theorist who appears to lack any knowledge about how the US (or really ANY) government works, and TYT needs to stop giving him a platform at all.
Ha, your funny … Jimmy is right about one thing …
The US govt is filled with war-profiteers & corporate oligarchs and their politician-leaches and lap-dogs. They are hypocrites who do not give a shit about anything other than their own power & wealth.
It’s naive to think that the US govt actually “cares” about its citizens.
But, the beauty of TYT is it takes all kinds.
Sorry, no.
I agree, and everyone knows that power hungry elites have corrupted the government through-and-through, but Jimmy Dore has these grandiose and fantastical views of what the end-goal should be, with absolutely no inclination to get it done properly. Please tell me again how Hillary Clinton wouldn’t be any worse than this, yea I’m sure she’d have launched a strike on the Assad regime without an AUMF or reaching-out to the UN Security Council. If anything, we would have a multilateral coalition, not the unilateral start of a war that will crush all American prospects to achieve any meaningful success for the foreseeable future. Jimmy is corrupting the minds of young Americans who are finally engaged, politically; but because of these ridiculously unrealistic expectations, we are taking far more steps backwards than forwards. He can’t defend a point by incorporating the reality that is American politics, so yea, I’m really not much of a fan of his.
Corrupting the minds of young Americans by making sense? I love how you package your BS to sound like you’re pragmatic. Those “grandiose and fantastical views” are called having values. You should try having some.
Uh oh, someone seems bothered by the fact that their mainstream bias wasn’t confirmed. Grow up and someday you’ll appreciate different points of views.
I noticed it on old school last week, very distracting, lol
How is he a conspiracy theorist. Because he says he is dubious of government rhetoric? When the government wants to do something in a foreign land, and it is not giving money to Israel, they tend to be secretive about it. It is healthy to be skeptical. If you want to disagree, it is a semi-free country.
Politely beg to differ–
Jimmy isn’t raving about outer space, life extension technologies, the devil’s control of major sectors of the economy, and lucky for all of us, he keeps his shirt on. More seriously, though, look carefully at the machinations of the workings of some of the military-equipment suppliers, and go beneath the daily “non-news” with multiple sources like Mother Jones, The Week, the Atlantic, even New Yorker (which publishes some damn good investigative work), and on-line sources like Mining Awareness. But you must exercise caution with online stuff, of course. Do the research for yourself.
Putting this stuff together will help you get to the conclusion that no, he’s not a raving raver. For example, where else do you see the long-form work like the Atlantic, for example, and the connexion about the useless luxury building Trump built in Azerbaijan and his dirty moneygrubbing deals broken in The New Yorker?
Jimmy ain’t far off the mark often.
Anybody who thinks warfare and death and destruction are beautiful is an absolute monster. Brian Williams and Fareed Zakaria obviously fall under that description, regardless of how many times Brian Williams came on TYT.
Neither one of those two people are nice guys. Knock it off and just call them as they are – pro-war propaganda spewers. You talk about spineless Democrats, well let’s not give anyone any more ammunition to call the rest of us progressives spineless; this is why we don’t run the country right now. We shouldn’t have the attitude of “well, they said bombing and war is beautiful, but they were so nice to me and came on my program and blah blah blah, so maybe they aren’t that bad after all…” instead of unequivocally blasting these freaks as war mongering monsters based on the evidence from their own mouths that proves that’s what they are. All that serves to do is strengthen their conviction that their propaganda is working, and when even we can’t take a strong, principled stand against the mass media propaganda pawns AND their propaganda ministers, then who will?
I love your show, your guests and the strong journalism that’s being presented on TYT, but we seriously need to make things like this personal, because unscrupulous bastards like Brian Williams and Fareed Zakaria will work to curry favour for yet another sickening, insane war, just like what happened during the Bush Bastard’s administration where the news media largely either turned a blind eye to what was happening or loudly supported “Our Dear Leader” Bush when he decided to kill and maim thousands of people, including innocent civilians, eventually inspiring the creation of ISIS.
The same altruistic principles that define progressive idealism also prevent progressives from doing the illegal/immoral shit that the right wing does to gain power.
This is an asymmetrical situation that demands progressives be far stronger to be equally effective.
It is also why progressives seldom hold power. The modern democratic socialist age (e.g. Scandinavia) is the exception, not the rule, and even in the most progressive areas of the world, people are still destroying the environment with polluting fossil tech anyway despite their supposedly lofty ideals.
As fossil fuel becomes more difficult to access, and global warming/pollution continues to erode the physical infrastructure of human life, expect progressive idealism to get harder to pursue. When people are desperate the first thing they jettison is morality.
I sure hope JR gets a gold watch for 15 years at TYT! After 15 years in a textile sweatshop my mom got a lousy, fake gold pin. After 25 years she retired, got no service award, but did get a pension which turned out to be a whopping $100 per month.
I guess that’s capitalism at its finest for the working class!
The panel made a lot of assumptions today. They launched 59 Tomahawks, and assumed Russian air defenses did not engage them. But the Russians said only 23 hit their targets, and no comment from the US to contest that or establish efficiency of the strike. These are not drones and not manned systems, there is really no issue if the Russians shot them down. Assuming that the strike was not as effective as it should have been because more than half the Tomahawks were shot down makes more sense than anything said on the nonsense.
As gar as the chemical attacks. As stated on the BBC either the Russians knew about it and hence deceived the world about removing Syria’s stockpile, or they didn’t know and hence Russians don’t have any leverage in Syria. I love Jimmy but his talk of false flag is a load of crap, and I have just about as much as evidence as he does.
Ballistic missile interception is difficult under the best conditions. You can still see footage from the early days of the second/current Gulf War on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZPirNkLPBY
hxxp://www.nytimes.com/1993/11/21/world/patriot-missile-s-success-a-myth-israeli-aides-say.html
“Patriot Missile’s Success a Myth, Israeli Aides Say
By TIM WEINER,
Published: November 21, 1993
WASHINGTON, Nov. 20— Contradicting claims by the United States Army, Israeli officials say that Patriot missiles deployed to defend Israel from attacks by Iraqi Scud missile attacks in the Persian Gulf war intercepted next to none of the Scuds. ”
Removing parts of the SCUD to make room for more fuel doubled their range but it also made the SCUDs wobble in flight. The SCUDs were basically impossible to shoot down with a Patriot. Additionally, a mathematical error in the software from the conversion from binary to decimal (so stoooopid!) caused the internal clock of the Patriot radar to lose time, making it lose tracking if it had been on for any length of time more than a couple of hours.
So when it comes to any claims of shooting down ballistic missiles, be skeptical. That was over 20 years ago but human nature has not changed. People still make exaggerated claims of the efficacy of weapons systems.
As someone who designed inertial guidance for weapons I can state without equivocation that the Pentagon bought everything we built regardless of whether it functioned according to specification or not, because once the money was appropriated, they had to spend it or face budget cuts the following year. So when you hear generals protesting that they do not need all that funding for weapons systems also be skeptical. They do it for the optics, not because they actually care. Careers are made and destroyed in the military on the basis of politics just like everywhere else.
These are not ballistic missiles. None of what is referenced there applies to this situation. Tomahawks are cruise missiles, which are essentially small planes that carry a payload to their target. You don’t see it in the videos because the first stage is a rocket booster but that burns out quick and wings deploy and a jet engine engages. They fly slow and low but when detected can be shot down by aircraft or missiles quite easily. With the level of radars and SAM equipment the Russians brought to Syria, they should have been able to engage them. Far more likely that many were lost as opposed to deliberately not hitting the runway. Still waiting for statement from DoD on how many reached their target and if its different from the 23 the Russians said.
SCUDs are entirely different as they ballistic missiles and are extremely fast and approach from extreme altitude. It can outrun the shockwave of a missile detonation which is why there was a high failure rate with Patriot. The same is in no way true for cruise missiles like the Tomahawk.
Cruise missiles are slower, yes. They travel at subsonic speeds. They are not airplanes though.
Their navigational computers do not black out under high G forces. They can dodge an interceptor by adopting a wobbling trajectory if they have appropriate programming. Did they? Who knows? Such details are probably classified and I am not an expert.
Also, the capability of a ballistic missile to outrun a shock wave presumes that the guidance system has targeted the engine flame rather than the body of the missile. That also had nothing to do with the failure of the Patriot Missile against a wobbling SCUD. Modern interceptor missiles shift their aim from the flame to the body of the target on approach, and there is nothing stopping them from detonating in the extrapolated future path of the target if needed when the target is fast enough to outrun the blast. Interceptors do not have to ‘catch up’ to the target. They intercept at a right angle whenever possible because the target presents a larger profile from the side. So as it turns out, your statements, while true, are also misleading.
Some historical perspective on the severe disconnect between claim vs. reality is in order here. Unfortunately it makes the comment too long so I deleted it.
Given Trump’s track record, and his nearly total lack of competent staff, plus his tendency to wake up before dawn and tweet from the toilet, plus the historically exaggerated claims of the capability of military technology in general, it is my personal opinion that the reason so many of the cruise missiles failed to reach their targets is most likely a combination of deceit and incompetence combined with technical glitches.
Personally I doubt if the runway was ever a target, though probably only a post-Trump FOIA will ever uncover the truth (at least a slightly more credible version of it anyway). For all I know, the whole operation was a false flag that was staged, aided, and abetted by Russia, with the intention being to prop up the Trump presidency by making him look strong without actually doing any serious damage that could impair the Syrian forces from continuing the war on ‘radical Islamic terrorism’.
Then again, I am a nobody who designed inertial guidance during the early part of my career, so I obviously do not know what I am talking about. Admittedly. Take my opinion for what it is worth, just about nothing, like everyone else’s is too, in the lack of any formal disclosure of the truth from the inner circle.
Are you really that näive? Not everything is black and white, and especially this. You say assumptions are made, of course, with out being there as it happened to see it first-hand, you have to take gov’t agent at their word. I believe that he is giving his opinion, not stating a fact. Now, if you do not agree with his opinion, fine, but do you really think that the president would risk war over this? What would you call a military attack against a nation being supported by an ally, warning said ally ahead of said attack, and the same ally in which trump is being investigated for having inappropriate contact with prior to taking office?
Really? Naive is what you are going with. In short all I said was that maybe the airfield wasn’t totalled because not all of the missiles reached their targets. TYT commentators in this segment are speculating because its some kind of secret conspiracy. I did not say they are wrong, but they fixate on one possibility instead of being informative.
Well if you are referring to me, you can see by my belated reply to your refutation of my statements that I both admit to speculating (as do you) and also I dispute your claim that interceptors can take out a cruise missile with no problem.
Cruise missiles can endure much higher G forces than planes and they also are mostly engine/fuel and just one payload, so they do not have to carry a human or a huge complement of tech to sustain a human, or carry multiple weapons, or fly the ‘missing man’ formation in a precise air show, and that means their wings/airfoil are much smaller and simpler than on a plane also, as are their actuators and electronics. So they carry less weight overhead, they can evade better, and they present a smaller target than a plane too.
But then again, I really do not know what the success rate of any particular Russian interceptor is against any particular cruise missile. You could be right and I could be way off base. All I know is that the Patriot interceptor was shown after the fact to be almost completely ineffective against the SCUD despite the military claiming a high success rate and ‘Stormin’ Norman’ getting up in front of a video screen on a national news briefing to point to SCUDs that he claimed were intercepted, when a slow motion playback of that same newscast showed incontrovertibly that none of the three or so ‘intercepts’ he crowed about actually took place.
Also, during the Cold War, the Russians made exaggerated claims about their nuclear capability and the US propaganda machine ran with those numbers to prop up obscene levels of US spending on nuclear armaments. Meanwhile, the Russians were towing their aircraft carriers and destroyers with barge tugs during naval exercises because they could not keep the ship engines functioning reliably in the long term, and did not want to risk damaging them.
I personally designed electronics for inertial guidance that did not meet spec because the accelerometer sensor we were using was fundamentally incapable of it, and the Pentagon bought every piece right up until the project was cancelled by the congress. It was not the first time. I asked about it and was informed that was business as usual because they have to spend the money or lose it in the next budget.
So whatever capability the Russians have to down a Tomahawk cruise missile, I count on the reality being a far cry from the claims, regardless of who makes them.
It is all speculation at this point what actually happened. If it was collusion and a false flag, it was a ballsy one. That seems to me something that both Trump and Putin would gladly risk, given their prior actions, though with all the attention on the Trump/Russia connection they would probably have approached it carefully if they have any sense at all. Probably wink-wink nod-nod and a whisper on a park bench between lower level subordinates rather than email notification of a conspiratorial teleconference between heads of state.
I think though whether it was false flag or not we can safely state that Trump (or whoever planned the attack, since he delegates just about everything) probably never intended for the runway to be damaged, at least not significantly anyway. Interceptors would not be able to distinguish the targets those cruise missiles were after, so how did they manage to protect the airstrip? It would be a huge coincidence if all of the missiles targeting the runway were shot down. Far more likely that none of them targeted the runway, or maybe only one, just to make a single easily filled crater that would not interrupt Syria’s air capability significantly. But who knows?
Something else to keep in mind is that Jimmy plays the part of the left wing outsider on TYT. It is his self-defined role to speculate about the things that Cenk will not. If he starts making claims that his speculations are fact, he will have stepped outside the bounds of journalistic editorializing and entered Alex Jones territory. Nothing like that is happening. Jimmy speaks for those of us who want such possibilities floated openly and discussed, not those who run around claiming the moon landings never happened. There is a difference between healthy skepticism of Fearless Leader and lunacy.
Thanks TYT Team for fixing the video! Patience is a virtue well-rewarded.
Gorsuch should be impeached as an illegitimate SCOTUS justice as soon as the Democrats have the votes. That should be followed by a US Senate vote on the true nominee, Merrik Garland. That will probably require a 2/3 vote, so let’s get busy Justice Democrats!
Why can’t they take two minutes after they have uploaded the main show and the PG, then check with a browser that its working… simple! How fucking hard is it to… well finish your job? Surely part of the job is making sure we can access the content. They never bother to look at the comments section here or they would see that people are having problems with getting the content (I know because I just checked and hour 2 of the 4th of April is still only half of the hour).
These technical issues have been an ongoing thing with TYT for years now…why am I still a paying member?? I paid a year in advance and that year runs out in July…I guess itll be “Bye Felicia”…and back to youtube.
Its funny you say that because I just checked my email this morning and I just got charged my subscription today and to be honest its my one luxury, because after all my rent and food, fuel money to get to work etc. about 2 in 10 times when the time comes for TYT to charge my monthly fee, I have no money in the bank. So I go overdrawn and you get fined £6.60 and then everyday £6-10 until you next get a pay check or manage to get enough cash to deposit into the bank to balance your account .
@optimismpains If I read that correctly, why do you keep a subscription that ends up costing you money to which you don’t seem to have access? I mean, it’s none of my business what you do with your money, but it looks like you’re not at all happy. Just curious.
I’m sure TYT doesn’t want you to remain in a dire financial situation on their behalf.
I live in the UK, so it is 11pm at night when the main-show starts, so I really need a membership to download and watch the next day and to be honest, the amount of joy and connection I receive to progressive ideas and the best informative news source and commentary, is well worth it. I believe in TYT and the msg, whether it be when I watched Jordan take tyt-politics from the start and totally exploded the channel doing so much down to earth human investigative reporting, to Cenk talking about everything from African-Americans getting disproportionately shot and killed by police to money in politics and obviously I fucking adored Bernie Sanders and had such hope this past election that he could win and would have such a positive impact on America.
The best covered and play by play of the debates, the conventions and lastly the election was TYT, by a f**ing field goal. That is why, I am just a like minded brit, but I have gotten so much and want to support and give what I can back.
I hope that answered you.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6EUllaCz2CeNElJdjhCYVQ2Nkk To download the semi-crap resolution version of hour 1 from FB live, and to watch it on FB stream: http://www.facebook.com/TheYoungTurks/videos/10154537285029205
Better than nothing. Thanks.
Thanks, dude!
Thanks for this. Appreciated.
Thank you for doing this! How did you get the laggy playback to fix in your version? I noticed the Facebook Live recording was out of sync and you fixed it!
Okay, so for anyone using a Roku or Smart TV to try to watch this hour read this, it’ll save you a lot of grief:
After you download the file this fine gentleman posted and try to play it on a Smart TV or Roku in the Plex app, it will go back to being laggy/out of sync. You need to force the server to transcode the file. It’s very easy to change the settings for only this video (it won’t affect the rest of your videos/app settings overall) — play the file, open settings for that video in the playback/in-video menu and under “Playback” go to “Direct Play” and change it to “Disable”. Basically, the server is trying to play the file directly to take some of the load off its in-video processing but you don’t want that, you want it to transcode the file.
This will work to play this file on a Smart TV or Roku at only slightly diminished quality/resolution but won’t be laggy or out of sync and will play seamlessly. Sounds like a lot of effort just to watch Hour 1, but it’s really not as complicated as it sounds.
Dear TYT Staff,
Please make it a priority to get the videos up ASAP for your paying members. Do not worry about writing lengthy descriptions until the next morning if necessary.
Thanks.
Aaron, with all these trolls and wannabes disparaging your great work, I just wanted to express a heartfelt thank you. Your wonderfully extensive descriptions are greatly appreciated by this gratefully paying member. Five minutes of reading can often buy me an hour+ of my life back, especially if Cenk is too Trump trump trumpy that day (I ain’t got time for that shit…).
Reading your masterpieces and I feel I’ve consumed the whole show, unless I’m just jonesing for Cenk’s soundboard or Ana’s sly knowing winks.
People, people, people cool your jets, just go to tytnetwork.com/live and skip to 34:34 (if it isn’t positioned there already). The whole two hours is sitting in the live feed slot where it’s been this whole time. I learned this little trick several weeks ago during an epidemic marathon of of video non postem and it’s served me well.
[this option provided you’re reading this before Monday 4/10]
god bless… (thank you Cenk)
Yags, epic*
I have brain epidemic…
Your heroism has saved my Saturday morning, nay, my entire weekend! I salute you!
Excellent tip, xenofile. Thanks!
Where’s the video?
How can Trump say with a straight face, NO MORE SYRIAN REFUGE BABIES, and then cry about DEAD SYRIAN BABIES? Is this a joke? The MSM is a joke, that is a FACT!
Disgusting what the MSM is doing. This is when Trump became president? Fareed Zakaria needs to take a couple hours and watch the movie “The American President” When Douglas, who portrays the President, after having to bomb a building, chided his staff for thinking this was a “Presidential” moment for him. He said this was the LEAST “presidential” thing he will ever do. What happened to America?
complain on twitter to Cenk
add a couple tyt # to your tweet
only way anything gets addressed if it gets addressed at all
wait, FB is free, apparently they get full shows
why am I a member again?
why? to support the show, that’s why.
jesus.
You guys are better than this.
have they turned off comments? I want to add my two cents.
Facebook sucks, I’m watching TYT on Facebook, ergo TYT sucks.
they don’t read these, go to twitter, they know non-members and other media can see those complaints
Maybe we should do a fund raising drive for a web producer. Or maybe a weekend worker at least.
Its Saturday so its Young Turk fucks the video of the main friday show day
AAHHHH TYT at its finest again. No video and no TYT staff member commenting. Facebook link is out of sync and 20 mins shorter. Fantastic great job sad….
/pokes video with a stick .
Audio only? The idea of a “Lights Out” session of TYT is kinda scary.
I see comments saying the video is black-screen but that it has been fixed. I still only see a black screen. All other videos have the image. Please fix. Much love. -S
Actually the rich oligarchs in US, Russia, Syria, Saudi arabia, etc. are all in on it. All sides profit from war. All of their respective militaries are just pawns.
The George Carlin line, “it’s a big club and you ain’t in it” has globalized.
“It’s a big club and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in The big club. By the way, it’s the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head with their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table has tilted folks. The game is rigged and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people . . . white collar, blue collar it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on. Good honest hard-working people continue, these are people of modest means . . . continue to elect these rich cocksuckers who don’t give a fuck about you. They don’t give a fuck about you . . . they don’t give a fuck about you. They don’t care about you at all . . . at all . . . at all, and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. That’s what the owners count on. The fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that’s being jammed up their assholes everyday, because the owners of this country know the truth. It’s called the American Dream cause you have to be asleep to believe it . . .”
Poor Leonard Cohen must be rolling in his grave.
The most sensible comment made. Yeah it’s frustrating but I would listen audio while I did interior renovation. Now it is sad bc I look forward but they’ll get it up, ha???? They’ll get it figured. Chin up everybody.
Holy shit~! Thought I’d better write and tell you folks about the video not being up
for hour 1.
Imagine my amazement to see the longest list of comments EVAH~!
Tee hee hee.
Love you anyway.
~Upaya~
OMFG~!
It got fixed while I was writing the above.
I take credit for my energy healing the problem while
I skimmed the zillion comments.
Hey~! I, also, am TOO STRONG~!
~Upaya~
OOoooops~!
It’s not fixed after all. I thought the button for download lo res, which had been missing,
indicated the solution. Now I’m playing it….oh, fuck.
FuckItAll~!
Time to take up a collection to hire a pro who can manage this stuff~? Aaaarrrrrgh~!
~Upaya~
I totally agree with your comment on the TYT IT b.s.
Are they starting tyt radio?
Thanks so much good find
I mean the link on Facebook
http://www.facebook.com/TheYoungTurks/videos/10154537285029205
Did they make it black in honor of jayar’s anniversary?
So sweet
don’t use AK47, use AR15
Recluseonly.com social hub for artist!!! Sorry tyt but I do love ya!!
It’s a weekend podcast;)
Second video fail this week, guys!! Did someone go on vacation?
Aaäah, no video! WTF? Love you guys fix your video! Thank you!
Sorry TYT but high schoolers can do an infinitely better job at IT with almost no resources than the people you hire right now. It is a shame that a company like yours with a considerable amount of financial resources fails to hire a decent IT team.
On the stories, while I hate to say it the is nothing illegal about Gorsuch’a confirmation. From a pure procedural PoV it was done constitutionally.
On the issue of Syria, no one on either side denies that a chemical attack happened, not even the Russians. The difference is in who did it. That there was a strike on the town no one denies it, there were nearly 70 strikes on the town and its vicinity that day alone because the town is a major supply route (and has major supply depots as well in a nearby former Syrian army base) for the rebels who were conducting a successful offensive south of the town that pushed the Assad regime forces between 20 and 40 kms and the Hama-Latakia road, a major supply route for the regime, was under direct fire.
The Russian explanation is laughable and also dangerous. The way they described the attack means that the Russians know a chemistry different than the one we know because all chemical weapons are destroyed by heat. It is dangerous because it shows an irresponsibility by the main regime sponsor that ignores international norms set in stone that even Stalin himself did not break when Moscow was about to fall in 1941 and basically had a rule book for himself.
The “regime is winning so he doesn’t need to use it” also doesn’t apply here. The regime just lost anywhere between 2000 and 3000 sq Km of territory east of Damascus to the rebels, the rebels in March severed the main supply route to Damascus from Homs for 10 days. The offensive referenced above was the largest in nearly a year in that area and the regime only regained half of what it lost in that offensive. Not to mention anywhere between 80k and 100k armed rebels still fighting (excluding ISIS and the Kurds).
The regime that murdered 400k civilians, used chemical weapons and got away with it in 14 confirmed incidents that killed 1500 people doesn’t need excuses to use them again.
Finally on the strike. The strike was damaging and severe and it was mean to send a message (and Tillerson made that clear in his statements) and the first message was to China because 2 days before he said in an interview with the Financial Times that he will act alone if China does not make North Korea behave and guess who was at Mar-a-Lago on the night of the strike? Other messages were to Iran, Russia and allies of the US like Turkey and Egypt and it was meant as a deterrence because Russia has been expanding its reach to Egypt, Libya and Ethiopia and the American establishment is not happy with that for geo-political reasons.
I think the strike was a positive development because from the behavior of Assad and his sponsors it was obvious that they did not take negotiations or the “cease fire” seriously. If the US joins the negotiations actively the regime will probably take them seriously this time.
You can’t negotiate if you are not willing to play a hand.
“Sorry TYT but high schoolers can do an infinitely better job at IT with almost no resources than the people you hire right now.”
I can see that now. “Hey mom, I cannot possibly take the trash out because the Defender is about to land at hypersonic speed in the middle of a Star Trek convention and I have to go set Roman candles out in the parking lot.”
Get real. IT is no joke.
One thing members can do to help fix this is up your membership dues voluntarily. Put your money where your mouth is.
IT is no joke indeed (having suffered catastrophes myself from my own beloved IT department) but it is definitely not hard enough to screw it every time.
A friend of mine was an intern in relatively big company in the early 2000s (just when broadband became cheap and streaming became a thing) and he successfully set up an excellent streaming service for the entire company along with 3 other interns and this service guaranteed a 1 Gbit/s per connection and as far as I understand it the structure of that system remains the same.
In college we had an illegal torrent sharing/streaming network (in the early 2000s, it was shutdown after a lawsuit threat) that was simultaneously used by 8000 kids and was setup and administered by 5 guys and they only had Pentium IVs among them.
If college kids could do it then TYT can and it won’t cost them much more than what they currently pay for their IT service. Trust me, the most expensive thing TYT will have to pay for in network security and even that is relatively cheap.
Nice Galaxy Quest nod there, I’m probably the only person to catch that one lol
No video. So sloppy to no even check it it plays.
Something like not checking the grammar in your post before hitting “Submit” LoL
This was trumps first attack with the training wheels still on the bike.
Soooo, no video? how am I supposed to see my hosts’ beautiful faces?? angry emote >:(
Cenk, Ana, John, Jimmy, etc. are the only ones that actually take any pride.
The rest Fucking Suck! This kind of shit happens very very often, and it is Not acceptable.
So Pathetic at how inconsistent this is!
Cenk You need to demand more of these people!!
I download the files every single day and I don’t remember a black video in the past 3 years. “very very often”? are you Trump? :P
you little shit… you couldnt even get the downloads right
Hey dipshit sorry excuse for a Polak gentile. WOULD YOU FUCKING PLEASE POST THESE WITHIN AN HOUR OF THE FUCKING SHOW ENDING LIKE IT USED TO BE? DO YOU THINK YOU COULD PLEASE FUCKING MANAGE THAT FOR US? HUH ? YOU FUCK SHITHEEL GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER!
This is distigusting. No one on here has insulted the staff except you. That is an unacceptible way to act, no matter if you’re on the internet or in person. Would you say that to Aaron’s face in person? I hope not, and if you would, I think you should be on the Trump train, not here at TYT.
That person is a serial insulter of various TYT staff. It is possible that they do it for the lulz.
I knew I could count on the TYT Army to post the video. Thanks yall for finding it and posting the links here. Yall made my weekend. #Toostrong
Aaron. You beautiful man, you. I thought FOR SURE this would be up by now. I went out with some buddies. Had a few beers, had great times. I thought FOR SURE I’d be able to come home and enjoy my Friday TYT power panel. I thought, there’s no way he could fuck this up as poorly as he’s fucked up before this. And even if he does, all will be well and righted by the time I get home. Nope. You screwed the pooch again, you miserable incompetent ingrate.
The next time you intend on uploading a video, try this: Jerk yourself off. Fall asleep. Wake up. Go home. Have an early evening nap. Wake up again and realize you’re fucking thousands of members out of the content they pay for on a regular basis. Remind yourself that TYT remains generally unrecognized as a legitimate news media outlet and that basic consistency is a must, especially for your paying members that keep you afloat, especially considering the YouTube ad revenue debacle of late. Then call Gigi. Have her upload the video/audio with a short but relevant blurb about what we are about to watch.
That whole sequence of events would be more productive than what you did today.
jesus… do you know how fucking difficult it is to write up those descriptions…. the kids tryna move up in the world, hes a major fuck up, and probably wont get anywhere with his shit for brains, but…. at least we can lay off him for posting late. lol
I pay for my membership a year at a time, I love TYT. I’ve a bunch of shirts, a water bottle, a beanie…
Am I irritated that the first hour was so late and that it has no video? Yes. Would I cancel my membership over this issue? No. If we all pulled our money we would actually set TYT back and quality, as well as timeliness, would drop off sharply.
Feel free to vent, express displeasure, but remember, Cenk, Ana, Jon, Jayar, Steve, Dave, Jesus, Jimmy, Ben, and the rest of the crew count on our memberships to keep the day to day running of the show paid.
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Agreed. This is bullshit. It’s one thing to be a little late with posting videos but posting a video with, um no video??? Bullshit.
Stop hating on TYT! Unlike the MSM, TYT doesn’t have huge corporate sponsors like big pharma or big oil. TYT’s budget is relatively small and paid for by members. In fact, an MSM on-air talent’s salary is orders of magnitude larger than TYT’s entire operating budget. Technical snafus are much more common when one’s operating budget is small. Yes, MSM doesn’t have black screen videos but they clear all their stories through big pharma, big oil, the government, and others before airing. I wouldn’t trade TYT for anything like that. Black screens and all.
Nobody is talking about jumping ship over this. But this is not a budget issue, its a Friday issue. There is something wrong going on that specific day of the week because the lion’s share of these snafu’s happen with the Friday show. TYT management needs to take a look at this.
It doesn’t take a lot of money to take pride in your work and put it up on time and fully functional.
And I don’t think I’ve ever heard an apology from the on-air talent when we have these snafus. Maybe once, but they happen, it seems, endlessly.
So much more true than the 100% mentioned earlier. TYT are revolutionaries, like our Founding Fathers, and they’re bound to break their Internet every few days or so because they are #TooStrong. $10/month to be a member is the best investment I’ve made since they hooked me up with an Aspiration Bank checking account, too. I’ve wanted to #divest for quite awhile, but even the best credit unions still have limits. Aspiration does not. I can’t wait to give them my money rather than Wells Fargo. TYT gets way too many looks in the mouth for a free, fair, and honest gift horse.
It happens guys. Luckily, I found the first hour video on the Facebook channel here: http://www.facebook.com/TheYoungTurks/videos/10154537285029205
See? We’ve got a #TooStrong member of the #TYTArmy to help us already.
this guy deserves a tyt shirt for his heroism. #TooStrong
also for those that need a downloaded copy for their commute and such use:
http://getfbstuff.com/
Heres a google drive link https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6EUllaCz2CeNElJdjhCYVQ2Nkk
I can’t stand Facebook video.
Heres an mp4 from the fb stream. https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6EUllaCz2CeNElJdjhCYVQ2Nkk
TYT Member of the week
i love my tyt. dont need any video, i listen to u guys while im trying to sleep before bed. no probs
Goddamn it! Where’s the fuckin video?????? Shit. Come on, guys, you can do better than this. Get your goddamn production shit together!
Can we get our money back??? Just kidding. But it would be nice to see some video in addition to the wonderful audio. I kind of like looking at people’s faces, especially online.
In that case, watch live. Or just wait a few more hours for your membership dollars to get to work. I know that we all can’t get enough of TYT.
Agreed 100%
TYT is thankfully an ongoing process. I assure you that the stream is just #TooStrong. Seems like Dave has been posting these videos less often lately (good), but there’s going to be a transition while Irina and Aaron figure this out in the next few days. Keep Calm Revolution Continues!
Where is the video? I can only hear the audio! I lost my internet for 12 hours today because Oregon had windstorm so I wasn’t able to watch live! not only that I am hard of hearing if can’t the video then I struggle with audio and you don’t have captioning so it makes it really difficult to hear!
I am 62, I don’t believe that shit.
Open suggestions, on a chance someone that can make decisions sees this…
1. Fix your servers latency, why do pages take tremendous amounts of time to load? Who is hosting your site? And why is it loading pages like the dial-up days?
2. Put out an actual mobile application, I don’t know what that one out there is used for because you can’t log in to it and it seems abandoned.
3. Why does uploading take so long? Honestly YouTube handles this for you. Just hit upload, and put a link on a page on a website. It’s not a difficult task.
I haven’t been a member long, but your technical issues are making it such that I might not be for much longer. You’re charging for a premium service, honestly this costs more per month than Netflix, which is fine but you need to bring a professionally ran site and mobile app if you’re going to do that, like Netflix does. Hire a couple developers with the next batch of hiring, they are far more needed than more reporters.
I agree with this. They need to improve their website too and fix issues like the video re-starting every time you post a comment.
This really is terrible. I never complain about a damn thing and am constantly trying to get my friends, coworkers, and family to listen to you guys. My best friend is very tech savvy but got tired of having to download your app multiple times through a bunch of hoops just to get the show. I end up doing for everyone. The message you guys have is powerful and necessary. The time and dedication is unparalleled. I donate a ton of $ to your causes. But it is counterproductive for you to work so diligently at something only to have the message fade because of a poor feed. Please, ditch all efforts to grow other programs and spice up production until I can tell people what time to watch your show and actually have them watch it. I promise you are losing valuable viewers and donations. Trust me, it’s my family and friends. I love what you guys do and constantly brainstorm ways to help it catch on. But I need some consistency or the product is just too tough a sell. Thx TYT and I hope you find this supportive and helpful. Keep up the good work!
Hey guys mistakes happen I get it. DON’T SWEAT IT PLEASE. my membership has always been about supporting you guys because y’all are my truth tellers. I’ll enjoy the podcast and I’ll tune in again for the video version. Don’t seat people’s bitching I work customer service so I know how much it can hurt especially when you actually are trying to help the customer CHEER UP Y’ALL
I think we are all exercising our right to hold TYT ACCOUNTABLE since we are their supporters.
We are supposed to hold them to a higer standard and to just brush off these epic screw ups and just give them a break everytime would be for us, the people, their supports, to NOT hold them ACCOUNTABLE.
Cenk has said this many times that TYT only answers to US the supporters.
Guessing Putin hacked the Hour One Video because Cenk’s prediction hit a little too close to home
For real man? This is the MOST IMPORTANT NEWS DAY OF 2017!!!!!!!!! We may be about to be going into a frickin war, and those of us who trust you with this information won’t be able to get it in video until what, Monday?!?
When this happens I normally just say “no big deal,” but this is different by all accounts. Now I have to either get it through some bullshit mainstream news source that is paid for by the military industrial complex, or watch 15 of your YouTube clips as they are released throughout the weekend.
This isn’t cool though, not at all. It’s fine to have some issues, but when shit this important happens, you need to make sure that everything is squared away before you go home for the weekend because many of us just can’t watch the show live, like ever.
Oh god I know exactly how you feel man, right there with you. I tried listening to NPR’s coverage of this and I was disgusted. I used to love NPR, thinking I was getting more facts, but god after becoming a TYT member I listen to NPR’s coverage on Trump and war stuff and I can’t tell the difference between it and CNN or some other mainstream outlet, there’s no difference anymore. I need my TYT to feel like I’m not being lied to.
Yea, I really enjoy listening to the Majority Report as well. I actually love MR, but they cover everything so much earlier in the day that I know they won’t have all of the information that TYT will have accumulated by 6pm. TYT also does only the news, and as for the MSM, I’ll read my news before I actually get my coverage for them. I read the news most days anyways, but it’s sad that I get so much more substance just by spending 20 minutes reading than I would watching CNN for three hours. So yea, I really enjoy watching TYT after my day is over with, because I do want to see the videos and the interactions lol. Plus, they aggregate much of the noteworthy news from the MSM, so you can catch it all in one place.
In the next batch of hires, Cenk should hire some good IT people. The upload is 4+ hours late and there is no video.
I’ll come work to TYT, been doing all aspects of IT for 20 years, including media and content production and editing, and web site design and implementation.
Come on. I work all day and look forward to coming home and unwinding to TYT. That’s why I became a member. It would be one thing if this happened only once in awhile. But it’s like every week a show is posted a day late or some BS like this. Obviously you want to deliver, but god damn if you ever want to beat CNN in actual income you need to make this shit consistent.
What’s the URL for the poll? Since there is no video for this stream and Cenk didn’t announce the address, I can’t vote and I’d like to.
tytnetwork.com/airstrikes/
Please fix! This is very unprofessional!
was waiting patiently for hour one,watched hour two and now i am mad
Cannot see my tyt Friday power panel! ???? I shell out my pitiful monthly to get bottom member status and No nooooo! I wanna see the panel!
Was able to watch hour 1 on their Facebook page.
As a member, I feel like I deserve a personalized apology whenever I’m not able to watch a VOD same day. I don’t understand you guys are prioritizing putting clips on youtube before making VOD’s available to your paying members. It takes more work to clip up the show anyway. You should instead upload the whole show here first, then get to work cutting it up into clips for youtube. As a member I feel taken for granted whenever this happens.
inb4 the righteous person who always arrives to say “they’re a small company guys” “it’s only been trouble this week” etc etc
Talk about epic fuckups – this is literally adding insult to injury!
We waited 4+ hours for an audio only video?? At this point you guys are better off just outsourcing this work to a 3rd party as I am pretty sure it will get done in a more timely manner.
Shit, I’ll do it as I’ve done video editing for the Yankees with a 1hr turn around online sport highlight for every single game back in 2005 for the Real Networks.
Nevertheless, I blame management for these epic unbelievable screw ups as if they were stricter on these guys doing the editing and uploading this shit wouldn’t happen every other day so consistently.
Nevertheless, its only a matter of time till I hit that CANCEL button.
They tried outsourcing like a year ago and it was a disaster.
I think they’ve raised enough money to hire 1, a proper crew to handle this task or 2, a reputable company that can gaurentee their services cause what they did and are doing now just aint working.
I’ve never seen this many people express their discontent at once so maybe it will get noticed this time around
What the FUCK guys? You put MP3 files up but no video for hour 1. Get your shit together.
TYT forgot to pay the light bill, har har har
Under the description please write “Dictated but not read – Leo Tolstoy”
4.5/5
I understand shit happens but your tech issue are starting to become pretty frequent. Still love you guys but get it together so we all can enjoy your righteous content
Normally, turn around on getting the episodes up for members isn’t like this but days like this are annoying. Four hours after the entire show ends we get audio but no video (normally the first hour is up with video within the hour of the end of the show.
Did someone call in sick today? I mean, I get it, things happen, but this is a long time to wait when the only thing that should need doing is cutting the breaks.
For the #1 digital news show, they sure can’t get their technical shit together, like, at all. Can’t even post a comment without re-loading the video. What is this, 1996?
THIS CLOSE to canceling my subscription and giving my money to The Jimmy Dore Show (which I plan to do, anyway). This is unacceptable.
Does this Jimmy Dore Show do full length videos for their members? I’d really like to know since Aggressive Progressives is my favorite program on TYT Network, but Jimmy’s YouTube page only has clips, not full episodes of his content. I actually really hate it when episodes are chopped up into clips for YouTube. YouTube already has a way to set bookmarks for your video, so for those impatient people you can add an ‘index’ of your ‘chapters’ to the video description, way more professional this way and its less work that clipping and individually uploading the videos.
I’d pay my money straight to Jimmy Dore for full episodes of his show.
There’s no video, just a black screen with the audio. Uploads are taking way too long lately and now this…
Friday night strikes again. For some reason the uploads get screwed more often than not on this day of the week. Staff eager to leave for weekend and stuff gets missed?
um…. why is there no video??
No video, audio only