TYT Hour 1 April 5, 2017

In The Young Turks Hour 1 - On Demand by Aaron Wysocki75 Comments

Cenk & John. Companies pull back from Bill O’Reilly. North Korea missile test. Syria chemical attack. Bannon ousted from NSC. Senator Jeff Merekly filibusters Gorsuch. Trump can withdraw money from Trust.


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  1. May I suggest the Speech accessibility feature baked into macOS. It works wonders for hearing the mistakes.

  2. Why are we getting essay-length descriptions on episodes now? I feel that getting the headlines for what will be talked about is enough to know what’s happening during the show.

    1. I don’t think I would mind the long descriptions so much if they were not riddled with typos and errors…

      1. The typos are genuinely Kim Jong Un-believable. It’s totally a disaster when the first sentence is “Cenk and John IS hosting”

  3. Haley is mentioning Iran in her opinion of the gas attack. The govt is going to say that those weapons came Iran (bullshit) to further the 1000 year crusade.

  4. The idea that Assad did not use chemical weapons after Ghouta is laughable. The UN and its related watch dogs documented at least a dozen attacks (reports attached):

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OPCW_Fact-Finding_Mission_in_Syria

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OPCW-UN_Joint_Investigative_Mechanism

    And Assad is not winning, he still does not control 60% the country and rebels have launched a major offensive in the second half of March that pushed the regime nearly 40 kms from Khan Shaykhoun, the town that was targeted and was a mere 10km away from regime frontlines before this offensive.

    As to why should he used them?

    He used them anywhere between 13 and 20 times before (excluding the Ghouta attacks and there are between 100 and 300 documented deaths as a result including 30 confirmed deaths) and no one peeped. He murdered 400k civilians with conventional weapons and no one peeped. He executed between 40k and 60k dissidents in prisons and death camps (and we have the photos and documents including from Wikileaks) and no one peeped. Indeed from some of the comments here it seems that people are perfectly content with what it happening in Syria right now.

  5. “Merkley” is spelled with 2 Es, not 3. (See https://www.merkley.senate.gov/) It’s a bit odd he didn’t get more coverage in the media. Yes, it didn’t delay the vote on Gorsuch, but it gave the Republicans a good look at what they could be facing if they nuke the Senate to get Gorsuch confirmed. I think Sen. Merkley deserves a lot more credit than he got for taking a stand.

    The Republicans refused to let Garland have a vote until after the election. They can wait until after the next election to confirm a Trump appointee to the SCOTUS.

  6. Sarin is actually not a gas (common mistake!) it is a liquid. It becomes aeroselized by an explosion and settles to the ground kinda like one of those air freshener sprays. I took a class on chemical and biological warfare, which was super interesting. Also, the Ghouta attack in 2013 is reported to have killed anywhere from 300 to over 1000, so this was not even close to the worst chemical attack in Syria. Good reporting otherwise!

  7. “Cenk and John is hosting.” First sentence. Not a good look. Cenk and John ARE hosting though. :)

  8. Well done Cenk! They had a British expert on Channel 4 news last night (in the UK) who actually helped decommission Syria’s chemical weapons stores in 2013. He said contrary to what most of the media was currently saying, a bomb hitting a warehouse COULD have released Sarin gas stored in weapons. Also, the proof that the attack in 2013 was Assad was never definitively proven and in fact was disputed at the time by Noam Chomsky and others. If the 2013 was a frame job then this one is likely a frame job too. Everyone is too eager to jump on the bandwagon of this. It is starting to feel too much like the feeding frenzy before the Iraq war. Of course it is terribly sad to see murdered civilians however they died. In any case I always value your thoughtful analysis and your ability to smell a rat. I think there is a lot more we need to know about this before jumping to any conclusions.

    1. The 2013 attack was not a frame job, the UN report and virtually all experts who were on the ground (not linguists from their comfort chairs in Boston) said it was a regime attack.

      As for the British expert, I would like his name because all other experts said the opposite. Plus since we are using conjecture here shouldn’t the rebels use the Sarin gas they have if they are truly “losing?”

  9. “Trump said that he will carry out the responsible of Syria.
    According to Trump’s twitter, he was tell Obama not do nothing with Syria.”

    This is not a case of “bad grammar.”

    This is gibberish.

  10. Enough with the intelligence bashing. This is exactly the reason most rural americans can’t stand left progressives. Bickering over spelling and punctuation… You will NEVER win over anyone calling them stupid, but more importantly calling yourself smarter. Just to throw it back in your face, what an insipid criticism revealing ones inability to comprehend the writers meaning and excuse the beings right to be lesser skilled. The right to exist is not (I mean should not be) something definable by intelligence level. That’s how it has been forever, but eventually enough people are going to say, “OMG I’ve figured it out.. When I use my intelligence to take advantage of everything, I start a snowball effect that trickles down through the 6 billion other people trying to use their intelligence to take advantage of everything causing all kinds of fucked up shit. I’m going to stop taking advantage of things that hurt people.” :| ……… that’s who we are right? Most of you right? Am I in the right place?

  11. Good English writing matters very much. Please have these summaries edited or leave them off, please.

  12. Hi guys, I would appreciate if in the description there were headlines as well as long descriptions (if you are going to include long descriptions). Maybe have the headlines italicised? Also, the descriptions are a little difficult to read grammar wise.

  13. Trump will never go into Syria – It is a Gifting a country to Russia. Trump voters son’s will go to Syria if he goes in and the RNC will remind him of that so no chance USA is ground troops in Syria. This is an Annexation of Syria approved by the Administration – a long con by Putin but pushing fast since DT is so on the ropes.

  14. So easy… Russia did the bombing. Trump Approved. We will yell at Russia for a few days. then Blame Assad and had Russia the Annexation and Rule of Syria to Putin.
    Just say it!!!

  15. So Easy… Russia did the Chemical Bombing with approval from Trump, to blame Assad. -All od this is just laying the groundwork for Russia to Annex and Rule Syria – a gift from Trump to help protect the “deal”.
    Look for more Russian Executions to complete the cover-up.
    We will talk tough against Russia for 3 days then give Syria to Putin

  16. Really questioning the mainstream narrative about the origins of chemical weapons used in Syria. Please check in on Eva Bartlett https://www.facebook.com/EvaBoBeeva and Vanessa Beeley https://www.facebook.com/vanessa.beeley two journalists who have been covering Syria, independently, for years.
    It does not make sense for Assad to use chemical weapons at this time, as the tide is turning in Syria, to the Syrian army. It makes a lot of sense for rebels and terrorists to use them, and pin it on Assad, because it furthers their cause and undermines Syria’s cause….

    1. Two “independent” jouranlists who never visited an opposition held territory and repeatedly denied the bombing on live TV of hospitals that the Syria regime owned it?

      How independent of them.

  17. I do not understand why we think the use of chemical weapons is worse than bombing people. Do the bombs somehow do a friendly, more kind and gentler job of killing people? Do you seriously think that everyone that dies from a bombing dies instantly? Of course not, many people survive and die slowly under the rubble of a building over the course of many minutes to hours. And then how it all gets politicized, it’s only bad if an official enemy did it… I find the entire thing appalling.

  18. Syrian chemical attacks: Assad knows that there will be public condemnation but that Putin and trump will,still support him. Trump and Nikki Haley talk about the horrors inflicted on children in Syria. What about the children who are drowned trying to escape as refugees in the Mediterranean daily? And not to mention our attacks on children and civilians as Cenk brought up.. This hypocrisy will be resolved (in the wrong direction I expect-against human rights) by Trump doing almost nothing about Syria unless he can make $ off of it. In that case he’ll invade, take the oil and say it was for the children who died from chemical weapons.

    Mr Monggose- I read these posts not the tweets. I’m more interested in what members have to say. But you are right- it would be nice to see a response from the TYT panel occasionally. Any additional insight they may have that was revealed in these comments would make these posts more dynamic and interactive and help to further justify the price of becoming a member.

  19. Cenk you need to hype up the Drive one last time. If you recall, you launched it, it took off and when you got to $500K , everyone got excited. So you pumped it up again and better, so you got another million. Now it’s almost an afterthought. I want those other 2 reporters. I wish I could give you the rest myself.

  20. It’s important that the copy be edited and not look stupid. Others besides we progressives are reading this — blatant errors make us look dumb. Perceptions matter. That said, no need for us to attack one another. That does not help our shared vision and cause. The stronger we support one another, the better chance we have to overcome the dark opposition. We cannot afford the luxury of pettiness right now.

  21. Thanks for uploading these videos in a timely matter! Your work with TYT is very much appreciated. Too Strong!

  22. I’m a combat veteran and nothing in a firefight is logical war is dirty and winning is at all cost Assad has done it before why wouldn’t he do it again

    1. Jimmyhoo, your comment topic is far more important than the spelling controversy! The whole thing from Assad in Syria to Haley in the UN smacks of Bush/Iraq in 2003! If by Assad having done this before, you mean the Ghoutta chemical attack of 21 August 2013, read the closing paragraph to the Wikipedia article on the subject: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghouta_chemical_attack#cite_ref-175. Did Assad do it then? Did he do it now? I don’t know. Is Trump a liar? Absolutely. Trump had an opportunity to serve, but, unlike you, he chose not to and to lie about it later (see, http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/donald-trump-dodged-vietnam-war-medical-deferment-not-high-draft-number-claimed-article-1.109078). The last time we went to war at the request of a rich, lying draft-dodger was 19 March 2003. How did that turn-out?

      1. Sorry but I don’t Don’t use Wikipedia as a source in my research. It is too unreliable! You do not understand the mind of a dictator, if they think they can get away with something they will. They believe they are above the law. You are trying to put logic where none exists. In the Military I have worked with Spooks, CIA, they wore no insignias or rank but I have seen colonels back down from them. I was in Cambodia and Laos when we weren’t supposed to be there. So I know a little about covert operations. Unless chemical weapons were manufactured in that country Transporting them would be too risky for us to transport them to Syria. Too many people with consciences woulds leak it.

        1. No need to apologize for willful ignorance, Jimmyhoo. Wikipedia is a tool and it provided what I needed to support the claims I was making. You have not provided any sources to support any of your claims. Here’s another source to support my claim: https://tytnetwork.com/2017/04/07/aggressive-progressives-april-6-2017/. Regardless of how many dictators you personally know or how many illegal military operations you participate in, you have to admit Trump is heading for escalation of our involvement in Syria without fully vetting the evidence.

  23. All I care about are prompt uploads and good content (ie the show itself). The descriptions ought to have proper spelling and grammar, but this is a minor issue.

  24. RE the story about Bannon getting booted off of the NSC because of McMaster, this is the umpteenth indirect smackdown of Jimmy Dore’s hysterical bullshit that I’ve seen performed by Iadarola.

    Is the Russia investigation an excuse for the Dem establishment to avoid making necessary changes to the party’s platform? Of course not, but it’s not all bullshit either. The fallout from the heat that the Trump administration has taken over the investigation has been a net positive.

    Anyway, I hope that Johnny Pie keeps tactfully pushing back on some of the stupidity that constantly espoused by other members of the TYT network.

    1. This is a false flag – Bannon will have more power and influence speaking one on one to Trump then when speaking in the NSA meeting where “reasonable minds” might object. Don’t believe this is good – it is worse. Bannon is hiding under the Resolute Desk and once the rest of the council leaves the room, SteveB will have more influence left unchecked….

      1. What makes you think that had less direct access to Trump when he was on the NSC? He’s held the title of “chief strategist” the entire time, and he has an office in the West Wing.

        This is good because he has less of hand directly shaping policy. Additionally, there are a shitload of stories from various sources in the past 18 hours about how Bannon is on the outs and almost quit when he was forced to step down from the NSC, so I doubt that this is a “false flag.”

  25. Seriously, how can you publish a video with a description with such bad grammar and mechanics that it seems… intentional?

  26. This was a response that I was responding to a libertarian friend who posted a meme showing the marital connections of upper Echelon news and democratic establishment.

    I would argue, the millenial generation understands this collusion.

    This is exactly the reason I do not pay much attention to the MSM.

    If you want a real progressive (not neoliberal) perspective of what is happening in the world, watch The Young Turks.

    Their informative narratives on the media, both political parties, and a global context gives the american people much more truth than anything the corporate, military industrial complex wants you to know.

    All of these guys are on the boards of each other’s companies.

    George Carlin was ???? when he said that our leaders are all in a club, and we aren’t in it.

    We need to get our democracy back.

    Trump isn’t doing it.

    The republicans definitely are not doing it.

    The democrats are remotely and barely doing it.

    PBS sure isn’t doing it.

    Fox News isn’t doing it, and neither is CNN or MSNBC.

    TYT have repeatedly proven over and over again, from the collusion against Bernie sanders, to Donna Brazil leaking of questions to HRC, to the flint water debacles, to the 3000 other communities facing similar lead pipe issues, to the standing rock protests, to the blatant disregard for civilian casualties and inappropriate costs of our ongoing wars into terrorism and drugs; the young Turks have been at the forefront of investigative journalism.

    If you really want to understand the progressive movement, you aren’t going to get it from Rachel maddow or chris Hayes.

  27. Without wanting to sound like a dick (for reals derral, calm your shit down), that write up is pretty poorly written. It reads like someone used a dictation program and then posted the text without going back to check if the software caught the words correctly. I appreciate the prompt uploads but it’s painful to read – wouldn’t it be a better use of time to just go back to the short summaries like Gigi used to do; less room for error, followed by bickering in the comments. We should be discussing important things!

    Alternatively you could email me a draft and I’ll fix it up grammar-wise before you post. Seriously, I would do that in a heartbeat. Bad grammar in places where people should know better just kills me for some reason. I know it’s weird, we all have our little weird peccadilloes… Let’s keep it civil though. Hope my own comment isn’t seen as unreasonable and mean. I can never tell on the internet anymore.

    1. Just watch the video and shut the fuck up, Jesus. No one cares about your grammar fetish. Get a hobby, get a dog…

  28. I need to tone down “I’m sorry”? Yeah, I fucking wrecked his shit, didn’t I?
    It’s called constructive criticism, and only a complete cuck can’t handle being criticized in the most gentle way possible.

  29. I’m sorry, but someone other than Aaron Wysocki needs to write and/or edit these summaries. I understand if your fist language isn’t English, I’m trying to become fluent in Japanese, but you need to have your writing edited.

      1. Are you a retarded person? It’s clearly a typo and easy to understand if you are able to grasp context.

        1. Aaron Wysocki is the “Commander of the Armies of the East” and English IS his fist language :>P

          1. I’m not attacking him, you fucking dipshit. I simply gave constructive criticism. How much of a delicate fucking flower do you have to be to be offended by my comment?

            1. I’m not offended. Just don’t appreciate the use of the word “RETARD”.
              Deal with it jackass…

    1. I wonder if they actually read the posts here? They seem to pay attention to Twitter, but ignore comments here, I never hear them mentioned on the show…

      Anyway, I agree, needs some proof-reading and editing. I actually wish they would keep the succinct short-form summaries, as it allowed you to get a sense for the content of the show in just a couple lines. I don’t mind the long-form summary to be included, but let’s keep the TL;DR version up top. The short version helps me easily navigate the show when watching if I want to see specific stories.

      Perhaps short summary up top like it used to be, then place long-form text summaries below (ideally below the video).

      I really doubt they read our posts, though. :P

      1. Still loving the Tolstoy comments. I expect more tomorrow. in this stormy sea of word salad, yours is a shining beacon of levity.

        I mean damn, there should be a wikileaks style search feature for each hours description. Why not just list the segments titles with a jump to in video link.

        just sayin…

    2. @derral – you need to tone it down. Aaron isn’t writing a school paper so why are you trying to grade it? It doesn’t matter that the grammar isn’t perfect. I love his effort and I really enjoy reading his summaries. You don’t have to read them…..simply move on.

      1. Generally I would agree with you, but as the TYT network tries to become a political force, I believe this kind of presentation can used against them.

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