Another Fox lawsuit. Pedophile law professor poses as Justin Bieber. Dan Savage on Melania Trump. Omarosa meets vets. TSA enhances pat downs. Rave before work. Samuel L. Jackson criticizes British Black actors.
Ok, I have to comment on two stories. First, I would TOTALLY go dancing before work – without being on drugs. I like going dancing! And no, I’m not one of the super awesome ones, I just really enjoy it and I don’t give a fuck what other people think of me – I don’t know them. Even when I went to the bars as a younger female, I had A drink or MAYBE two – but I loved the dancing. Although, I agree with you on the Yoga – yuck!
Second thing – I agreed with Cenk that on-screen acting and acting in the theatre are different, but he crossed the line when he said that one was was better than the other! That’s like, your opinion, man. I personally, can enjoy both kinds of acting for what they are – but it’s a dick move to say that one is better or harder than the other – they both have their challenges!
He even compliments the Top actors in game of thrones for their acting. Being that I took theater in college, I notice the theater training and those are things that Cenk has complimented.
Theater reasoned actors are better. The best ones are more disciplined and understand nuances better than actors trained for camera.
Armenians look white. But not every white person knows what it’s like, what it feels like, to be an Armenian. Likewise, there are British blacks and African Americans – but only African Americans know what it feels like to be a black person in America. Just because they have the same colour skin doesn’t mean they have the same perspective and experience of the stories and lessons they are trying to tell. Part of acting is channelling your real-life experiences into the role you are playing. African Americans can only be better at this. I agree with Jackson on this one.
Also, Cenk’s view of the theatre is terribly outdated.
I completely agree wth your point about African American actors. I’m glad these stories are getting told; but I find it odd that African American actors are seldom selected in these roles.
Melania sounds like Zsa Zsa Gabor … without the clever sharpness and Diva strength.
To be honest I don’t think anything about her. Her asset is her looks, so she became a model and found a sugar-daddy. Had a child with said sugar-daddy so she has a certain “stability” in wealth because of said child.
She is so not worth the effort to be riled up about.
I have no hate for Melania. Her “story” has only been going on FOREVER.
Unless a story comes up where she is eating kittens for brunch and puppies for dinner … don’t do another story on her. Not worth the minutes.
As an actual director, Cenk is mostly wrong about theater actors. Yes, a film actor can be good, and a theater actor who hasn’t done films can be over-the-top.
But what theater actors understand that often makes them better is that roles are built in rehearsal and by hard work before the scene takes place. Some film actors, like Russell Crowe, do that work. Others don’t, and just show up and “be themselves”. and that it’s all about their catchy personality. You won’t find many theater actors who do that, because they know that work improves the performance.
Because of that work, most theater actors can adapt to working on film pretty quickly. Not so the other way around.
I am going to argue that Theatre actors and Movie actors both are highly skilled – but that they require different skill sets. It’s apples and oranges to me. Yes, they are both fruit, but that’s where the similarities end.
On stage you need to be in the moment for the whole show. You need to do it in front of your audience. Every night. Sometimes more than once in a night. You have to be ON for every performance. You’re dealing all night with the lights/costume, etc. Once your character appears – that’s it. You are locked into that performance. You can’t go back and change anything, or edit anything, as it is live.
In cinema, you need to be in the moment…for as long as the scene lasts. You get constant breaks. You get multiple re-takes. You can go back and edit after your performance to find the best way to present what you’ve done. You are allowed to portray a scene 4 different ways, go into the editing bay, and get the luxury of viewing all of them to pick which one you like best. It still requires the talent of acting and being in touch with your character – but you get multiple attempts at it.
I will not argue that one is ‘better’ than the other. It simply comes down to who performs best in their chosen field – stage or cinema – and that is the only attribute I find that you can compare.
If you get an “Enhanced Pat Down,” the moment they go into your shorts, act like you enjoy it.
“Oh yeah, faster, move to the left, farther down, OH YEAH, THAT’S IT!” really loud. If everyone does that, enhanced pat down will last a week.
Ana, I believe you are equating most men with the monsters like Ailes all the time. When you say women have not reached equality because there are still some horrible injustice done to some women you are really doing a bait and switch. And that bait and switch makes all of us men carry the burden of the actions of a few. It makes the case for the professional victims who say they had half a beer and sex, so they were raped. It makes the case for the accusers of Jian Ghomeshi, just to mention one example, who lied under oath countless times but were not even properly cross examined because all men are rapists, and all women are rape victims.
You must acknowledge that many women have reached equality and more to be able to properly make the case for the women who are legitimate victims of sexual violence and discrimination.
In fact, some of the most ardent proponents of tough justice for the Fox News directives and the like are many of the so-called anti-feminists like me. We want true equality, not the idea that all women must be considered victims, whether they are getting their fair share or not, until every last woman is avenged.
But that is the real problem. Systemic sexism does not exist in the USA, with the exception of the abortion issue. Laws are either strictly egalitarian or skewed towards women. Claims of salary discrimination are made all the time, but actual accusations towards actual companies that discriminate shine by their absence.
Of course, some people find the way to distort or break the law and discriminate, but that is totally different from systemic sexism. And my point is, the notion that every man is sexist, sexism is systemic, women have to fight against the male population in general, universities have to teach all men not to rape, puts all decent men like me in the untenable position of having to defend ourselves from the claim of being almost criminal by nature. Instead, decent men should be enjoying with women the achievement of an egalitarian society, and should be recognized as the allies we are in the fight against the real bigots and real abusers.
I am not informed enough to comment on systemic sexism specifically, but I can comment on the lack of “actual accusations towards actual companies,” about salary discrimination based on my (admittedly limited) experience. I understand that this is anecdotal, but I would argue that this is part of a larger problem.
Companies in my area make sure that you sign a contract upon being hired that states you will not discuss your pay with anyone else. Therefore, if you DO find out someone of the opposite gender is being paid more/less, you can’t legally do anything about it, because your contract states that you are not allowed to talk about it. I have worked in a bank, call centers, chain store retail, a bar, a health center, computer sales store, and a technology company – all of them had that clause in the documents you sign to become employed. And I know this because I read every single page of the document I signed (every employer commented or complained about that). Furthermore, in my area, if you complain – they’ll find a valid excuse to fire you, not that they need one because it is an at-will state & all the contracts had the “at-will” employer clause in their contracts. And in case you’re wondering, yes, I did compare salaries with males at my workplace and found discrepancies at many of the employers, although not all of them.
What I’m getting at is, the claim that salary discrimination is not a thing is, at best, underreported for fear of retaliation (loss of job in these uncertain times) and therefore, misperceived by those who do not have first-hand knowledge and, at worst, willful ignorance of the reality of the situation.
I agree with Casper about not attacking Melania low like her modeling career, but it’s kind of infuriating to hear that we should take the high road when republicans called Michelle Obama a fucking Ape in heels. I mean, what the fuck did Michelle do to deserve such spite? You say be nice to Melania as she goes on television and calls Obama a foreigner! Come on! I know we should take the high road, but can’t we call out the hypocrisy at least? Can’t we make some sort of comparison between the dignified eloquence of Michelle with that of Melania, who seems to care more about making money off her title as “First Lady” than trying to push productive social policy to help the general public. When was the last time we heard Melania talk about online bullying and trolling, for example?
Look I hesitate to say this but that was not the best choice of outfit for tonight. Its easy to see this as a misogynistic comment but that outfit is the equivalent of Cenk showing up for the show in a track suit. I really thought Ana came straight from the gym.
Okay, but that’s like your opinion man. I’m fairly certain there are thousands of people who disagree with that point. Totally free to think whatever you want, I’m just curious as to why you thought it was important to say?
I thought it was attractive, and smart – however – if you’re going to get on Cenk for having a T-shirt on under his sport coat, you can’t come in wearing something that looks like a bathing suit on first glance. Sexist, misogynistic or not it is just the sad reality of our culture. The importance of this, I would argue, is that it would be one of the first things attacked if someone who is not a TYT viewer (or is against TYT) were to argue against any statement made on this program. Then that distraction becomes the story, when the actual issue disagreed upon is lost.
We should be able to discuss dress code without calling it sexist or misogyny. I would have made the same comment if Cenk showed up in a track suit or PJs. I am not even saying what she wore was inappropriate in general, just that it looked like she came straight from the gym. We all have to watch what we wear at work to be taken seriously, this is no different.
I do not comment on the videos usually, but I literally came on here just to say that that dress was the perfect combination of sexy and professional. I hesitated, but then I saw your comment and had to reply. It’s really not Anna’s fault that you don’t like bright colors. There is nothing wrong with this dress at all.
I get patted down every time I fly. It’s happened so much I don’t even worry about it any more. BTW, I’m a 64 year old woman with long long dreadlocks. I ask every time why, but I get non-committal answers. I’ve looked it up and it seems to be nothing specific. I am being targeted pretty consistently and the information why is obscured, deliberately I think. Maybe they think a disabled silver-haired woman who uses a cane is hiding explosives in my hair or something.
No. The TSA should absolutely not even exist anymore – period. It may be a valid mechanism/management plan for states of emergency, but you should not be getting shaken down for absolutely no reason just because you need to quickly travel to another part of the county. That’s not security – it’s just another form of oppression, and is pretty obviously a form of conditioning to prep the population to accept even worse treatment. All of it needs to go…no “balance between safety and liberty,” just liberty. You’re never going to be truly safe, no matter how many times you junk gets felt-on by a TSA agent.
Yup, normalizing the spread of the police state and extreme invasions of privacy. It’s also going to be a mobilization deterrent – the airport is already a nightmare, who’d going to want to add a public groping to a miserable day of delayed flights, missed connections and tarmac camping? As someone who’s been sexually abused, I certainly can’t wait.
How long before they’re checking our social media before we can confirm a ticket and asking us why we’re going where we’re trying to go at this particular time, like they’re doing at the border checks? Then they get the power to literally dictate who can fly when and cut the legs out of any gathering they want.
This is just going to get airlines all sorts of govt treats to meet the new demands and protect them from lawsuits.
Can you guys talk about how a Canadian Conservative Senator recently made statements about Canada’s history of residential schools from 1880-1996 when the last residential school shut down and how the Truth and Reconcilation Commisions report quote “overshadowed some of the good things that happened at those schools”. Those schools ripped children from families and beat their culture out of them, wouldn’t allow them to speak their own languages, raped and abused them constantly, as well as forced conversion to Christianity (likely the “good” part she was thinking about). This was a disgusting event that happened here in Canada and I would really appreciate it if you covered it even briefly. Our First Nations people have been sorely underrepresented here for a long time and they need a voice.
This happened to Native Canadians? (I don’t know what the proper wording is for that, sorry) If you could like put a link or something to a good source for that story I’d appreciate it; had no idea, that’s awful. Or just say who that representative was so I know what to look for that’d be cool. Thanks.
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You need to check out Trump and Melania’s prenuptial agreement. It’s AMAZING!!
Bring back your old video format so I can watch it on my phone!
Ok, I have to comment on two stories. First, I would TOTALLY go dancing before work – without being on drugs. I like going dancing! And no, I’m not one of the super awesome ones, I just really enjoy it and I don’t give a fuck what other people think of me – I don’t know them. Even when I went to the bars as a younger female, I had A drink or MAYBE two – but I loved the dancing. Although, I agree with you on the Yoga – yuck!
Second thing – I agreed with Cenk that on-screen acting and acting in the theatre are different, but he crossed the line when he said that one was was better than the other! That’s like, your opinion, man. I personally, can enjoy both kinds of acting for what they are – but it’s a dick move to say that one is better or harder than the other – they both have their challenges!
Cenk is almost completely wrong.
He even compliments the Top actors in game of thrones for their acting. Being that I took theater in college, I notice the theater training and those are things that Cenk has complimented.
Theater reasoned actors are better. The best ones are more disciplined and understand nuances better than actors trained for camera.
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Armenians look white. But not every white person knows what it’s like, what it feels like, to be an Armenian. Likewise, there are British blacks and African Americans – but only African Americans know what it feels like to be a black person in America. Just because they have the same colour skin doesn’t mean they have the same perspective and experience of the stories and lessons they are trying to tell. Part of acting is channelling your real-life experiences into the role you are playing. African Americans can only be better at this. I agree with Jackson on this one.
Also, Cenk’s view of the theatre is terribly outdated.
I completely agree wth your point about African American actors. I’m glad these stories are getting told; but I find it odd that African American actors are seldom selected in these roles.
Melania sounds like Zsa Zsa Gabor … without the clever sharpness and Diva strength.
To be honest I don’t think anything about her. Her asset is her looks, so she became a model and found a sugar-daddy. Had a child with said sugar-daddy so she has a certain “stability” in wealth because of said child.
She is so not worth the effort to be riled up about.
I have no hate for Melania. Her “story” has only been going on FOREVER.
Unless a story comes up where she is eating kittens for brunch and puppies for dinner … don’t do another story on her. Not worth the minutes.
As an actual director, Cenk is mostly wrong about theater actors. Yes, a film actor can be good, and a theater actor who hasn’t done films can be over-the-top.
But what theater actors understand that often makes them better is that roles are built in rehearsal and by hard work before the scene takes place. Some film actors, like Russell Crowe, do that work. Others don’t, and just show up and “be themselves”. and that it’s all about their catchy personality. You won’t find many theater actors who do that, because they know that work improves the performance.
Because of that work, most theater actors can adapt to working on film pretty quickly. Not so the other way around.
I am going to argue that Theatre actors and Movie actors both are highly skilled – but that they require different skill sets. It’s apples and oranges to me. Yes, they are both fruit, but that’s where the similarities end.
On stage you need to be in the moment for the whole show. You need to do it in front of your audience. Every night. Sometimes more than once in a night. You have to be ON for every performance. You’re dealing all night with the lights/costume, etc. Once your character appears – that’s it. You are locked into that performance. You can’t go back and change anything, or edit anything, as it is live.
In cinema, you need to be in the moment…for as long as the scene lasts. You get constant breaks. You get multiple re-takes. You can go back and edit after your performance to find the best way to present what you’ve done. You are allowed to portray a scene 4 different ways, go into the editing bay, and get the luxury of viewing all of them to pick which one you like best. It still requires the talent of acting and being in touch with your character – but you get multiple attempts at it.
I will not argue that one is ‘better’ than the other. It simply comes down to who performs best in their chosen field – stage or cinema – and that is the only attribute I find that you can compare.
If you get an “Enhanced Pat Down,” the moment they go into your shorts, act like you enjoy it.
“Oh yeah, faster, move to the left, farther down, OH YEAH, THAT’S IT!” really loud. If everyone does that, enhanced pat down will last a week.
Ana, I believe you are equating most men with the monsters like Ailes all the time. When you say women have not reached equality because there are still some horrible injustice done to some women you are really doing a bait and switch. And that bait and switch makes all of us men carry the burden of the actions of a few. It makes the case for the professional victims who say they had half a beer and sex, so they were raped. It makes the case for the accusers of Jian Ghomeshi, just to mention one example, who lied under oath countless times but were not even properly cross examined because all men are rapists, and all women are rape victims.
You must acknowledge that many women have reached equality and more to be able to properly make the case for the women who are legitimate victims of sexual violence and discrimination.
In fact, some of the most ardent proponents of tough justice for the Fox News directives and the like are many of the so-called anti-feminists like me. We want true equality, not the idea that all women must be considered victims, whether they are getting their fair share or not, until every last woman is avenged.
Acknowledging that systemic sexism still exists in the USA is not a personal attack on you, nor on all men.
Just like acknowledging that systemic racism still exists is not a personal attack on all white people.
But that is the real problem. Systemic sexism does not exist in the USA, with the exception of the abortion issue. Laws are either strictly egalitarian or skewed towards women. Claims of salary discrimination are made all the time, but actual accusations towards actual companies that discriminate shine by their absence.
Of course, some people find the way to distort or break the law and discriminate, but that is totally different from systemic sexism. And my point is, the notion that every man is sexist, sexism is systemic, women have to fight against the male population in general, universities have to teach all men not to rape, puts all decent men like me in the untenable position of having to defend ourselves from the claim of being almost criminal by nature. Instead, decent men should be enjoying with women the achievement of an egalitarian society, and should be recognized as the allies we are in the fight against the real bigots and real abusers.
I am not informed enough to comment on systemic sexism specifically, but I can comment on the lack of “actual accusations towards actual companies,” about salary discrimination based on my (admittedly limited) experience. I understand that this is anecdotal, but I would argue that this is part of a larger problem.
Companies in my area make sure that you sign a contract upon being hired that states you will not discuss your pay with anyone else. Therefore, if you DO find out someone of the opposite gender is being paid more/less, you can’t legally do anything about it, because your contract states that you are not allowed to talk about it. I have worked in a bank, call centers, chain store retail, a bar, a health center, computer sales store, and a technology company – all of them had that clause in the documents you sign to become employed. And I know this because I read every single page of the document I signed (every employer commented or complained about that). Furthermore, in my area, if you complain – they’ll find a valid excuse to fire you, not that they need one because it is an at-will state & all the contracts had the “at-will” employer clause in their contracts. And in case you’re wondering, yes, I did compare salaries with males at my workplace and found discrepancies at many of the employers, although not all of them.
What I’m getting at is, the claim that salary discrimination is not a thing is, at best, underreported for fear of retaliation (loss of job in these uncertain times) and therefore, misperceived by those who do not have first-hand knowledge and, at worst, willful ignorance of the reality of the situation.
welp. this ended on a low note
I agree with Casper about not attacking Melania low like her modeling career, but it’s kind of infuriating to hear that we should take the high road when republicans called Michelle Obama a fucking Ape in heels. I mean, what the fuck did Michelle do to deserve such spite? You say be nice to Melania as she goes on television and calls Obama a foreigner! Come on! I know we should take the high road, but can’t we call out the hypocrisy at least? Can’t we make some sort of comparison between the dignified eloquence of Michelle with that of Melania, who seems to care more about making money off her title as “First Lady” than trying to push productive social policy to help the general public. When was the last time we heard Melania talk about online bullying and trolling, for example?
If Cenk was the casting director of “Silence of the Lambs” we would have ended up with “Gigli” all over again.
Thank God he left the movie business early.
Look I hesitate to say this but that was not the best choice of outfit for tonight. Its easy to see this as a misogynistic comment but that outfit is the equivalent of Cenk showing up for the show in a track suit. I really thought Ana came straight from the gym.
Okay, but that’s like your opinion man. I’m fairly certain there are thousands of people who disagree with that point. Totally free to think whatever you want, I’m just curious as to why you thought it was important to say?
I thought it was attractive, and smart – however – if you’re going to get on Cenk for having a T-shirt on under his sport coat, you can’t come in wearing something that looks like a bathing suit on first glance. Sexist, misogynistic or not it is just the sad reality of our culture. The importance of this, I would argue, is that it would be one of the first things attacked if someone who is not a TYT viewer (or is against TYT) were to argue against any statement made on this program. Then that distraction becomes the story, when the actual issue disagreed upon is lost.
We should be able to discuss dress code without calling it sexist or misogyny. I would have made the same comment if Cenk showed up in a track suit or PJs. I am not even saying what she wore was inappropriate in general, just that it looked like she came straight from the gym. We all have to watch what we wear at work to be taken seriously, this is no different.
I do not comment on the videos usually, but I literally came on here just to say that that dress was the perfect combination of sexy and professional. I hesitated, but then I saw your comment and had to reply. It’s really not Anna’s fault that you don’t like bright colors. There is nothing wrong with this dress at all.
It’s funny. People watch me getting patted down and are, WTF??????
I get patted down every time I fly. It’s happened so much I don’t even worry about it any more. BTW, I’m a 64 year old woman with long long dreadlocks. I ask every time why, but I get non-committal answers. I’ve looked it up and it seems to be nothing specific. I am being targeted pretty consistently and the information why is obscured, deliberately I think. Maybe they think a disabled silver-haired woman who uses a cane is hiding explosives in my hair or something.
No. The TSA should absolutely not even exist anymore – period. It may be a valid mechanism/management plan for states of emergency, but you should not be getting shaken down for absolutely no reason just because you need to quickly travel to another part of the county. That’s not security – it’s just another form of oppression, and is pretty obviously a form of conditioning to prep the population to accept even worse treatment. All of it needs to go…no “balance between safety and liberty,” just liberty. You’re never going to be truly safe, no matter how many times you junk gets felt-on by a TSA agent.
Yup, normalizing the spread of the police state and extreme invasions of privacy. It’s also going to be a mobilization deterrent – the airport is already a nightmare, who’d going to want to add a public groping to a miserable day of delayed flights, missed connections and tarmac camping? As someone who’s been sexually abused, I certainly can’t wait.
How long before they’re checking our social media before we can confirm a ticket and asking us why we’re going where we’re trying to go at this particular time, like they’re doing at the border checks? Then they get the power to literally dictate who can fly when and cut the legs out of any gathering they want.
This is just going to get airlines all sorts of govt treats to meet the new demands and protect them from lawsuits.
Can you guys talk about how a Canadian Conservative Senator recently made statements about Canada’s history of residential schools from 1880-1996 when the last residential school shut down and how the Truth and Reconcilation Commisions report quote “overshadowed some of the good things that happened at those schools”. Those schools ripped children from families and beat their culture out of them, wouldn’t allow them to speak their own languages, raped and abused them constantly, as well as forced conversion to Christianity (likely the “good” part she was thinking about). This was a disgusting event that happened here in Canada and I would really appreciate it if you covered it even briefly. Our First Nations people have been sorely underrepresented here for a long time and they need a voice.
I agree with ajodoin8.
Absolutely! That’s a story that needs to be told to a wider audience.
Same thing happened in Australia.
This happened to Native Canadians? (I don’t know what the proper wording is for that, sorry) If you could like put a link or something to a good source for that story I’d appreciate it; had no idea, that’s awful. Or just say who that representative was so I know what to look for that’d be cool. Thanks.
They go by First Nations. This includes all the tribes across Canada (e.g. Metis, Algonquin, etc.)