Right wingers don’t believe in equality. Jesus said don’t oppress the Jews because they’re Gods chosen people. Muslims believe in Jesus Christ, if I am not mistaken, and freedom of religion is protected under the first amendment. Federalist and Anti-Federalist are the two parties still in existence today.
At 57:00 Cenk cites the need for ELECTION REFORM, and then goes on to pitch it as an additional, broad GOAL of http://www.wolf-pac.com. That statement, expanding Wolf-Pac’s mission, was pivotal in my decision to join Wolf-Pac and become a monthly-contributing member today.
I’m already a member of Wolf-PAC, but Jordan Chariton’s reporting convinced me to become a member of TYT, although I wish they would issue retractions when they get something wrong. This “no apologies” business is shit. We all have to apologize sometimes. Saying, “I made a mistake. I’m sorry and I’ll try very hard not to do it again” is what separates adults from children. TBH, I’m not as good at it as I should be, so maybe TYT and I can mature together? I don’t know.
I’ve also donated twice to hire a reporter, all because I’m super impressed with Jordan Chariton. I spent my Christmas money on it. Sorry, family, but you all voted for Trump. I didn’t even want to shell out cash for lumps of coal to put in your stockings. Voting 3rd party I can understand, but voting directly for the guy when you have more money than most American citizens is destructive. I can understand and forgive “brick” voters. They’ll pay fairly early on, but my family will probably be able to get along just fine. Yeah, I forgive my family, but what little money I have is going to tear down corruption. I hope.
THREE MISTAKES BY CENK (the third one by the elector guy, too):
1. Huffington Post leans Democratic neolib establishment, not “progressive”; they were tool for Hillary all the way, also exposed by Wikileaks;
2. Brooking Institution is not left-wing, it is neolib. They are big supporters of the exceptionalism, of the neocolonial, neoimperialist policies of the “regime change” coups and wars that Obama wages, the installation of right-wing/neo-Nazi-driven regimes and terrorists tyrannies instead of governments that were overthrown (as in Honduras, Libya, Ukraine, Syria during the Obama years).
3. Cenk and the elector guy repeat the baseless claim that the hacks were done by the Russian government (see below, if you are not aware how founded the claim is). Sorry, but I have to repeat the details on what Cenk has randomly chose to believe in:
The level of proof that the hacking was done by the Russian government is truly epic. The phishing mail to John Podesta came from Ukraine. But Ukraine is almost Russia. And Russia is almost the same as the Russian government/FSB-GRU special hacking forces. And, of course, the Russian military intelligence uses Yandex, the biggest Russian mail service. No one but the Russian special hacking forces could carry out the incredible military intelligence operation of making Podesta fall for the most basic and dumb phishing mail that pretended to be from from Google and asked to change password. And the DNC hack’s “evidence” is also amazing. Some of the documents are signed by “Felix Edmundovich”, who was the founder of the KGB/FSB’s predecessor. It is like believing that the CIA would hack Russia using the nome de guerre “Allen Dulles”.
The “evidence” is so ridiculous that they understood that they can not claim it was GRU’s special hacking forces any more (as they did initially), so now they made “one step away” excuse (meaning it was not the FSB’s hacking teams, but “middlemen”) to still blame the hacks on the Russian government with literally zero actual evidence. The CIA/intelligence community has never released any information: they only have anonymously claimed that they believe with “high confidence” that the Russian government has carried out the hacks under direct command of Putin (their secret evidence is so strong that it took other agencies months to agree with that, but they did).
The released DNI/DHS report from October, the only government document on this matter, had to use phrases like “we believe” and “activity consistent with” that are code words for “we do not know, but we really need to help Clinton’s neo-MacCarthyite campaign”. The White House said they will not release any evidence, but continue to refer to the publicly available reports by the DNC-paid government contractors CrowdStrike and FireEye whose claims are laughable.
Another glorious “high confidence” reports from the intelligence community included the claim that Qaddafi was about to commit mass massacres back in 2011, when Clinton/Obama needed an excuse to destroy Libya in “regime change” war against the country (the UK parliament had it investigated this year, and found it to be false), as well as “Assad gassing his own people” in 2013 (as per Turkish whistle-blower, jailed by Erdogan already, the culprits was Al-Qaeda of Syria, and they used chemical weapons from Libya, smuggled with the help of Turkey; Seymour Hersh has independently reported the same), let alone the most famous of all “high confidence” report from the Bush years that Saddam had WMDs and was tied to Al-Qaeda. It almost as if the intelligence community is a documented serial perjurer, always used as a political tool to release whatever lie the ruling establishment demands of them: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/18/books/review-debriefing-the-president-tears-into-the-cia.html?_r=0
Standing fucking ovation sir. See I can’t even type two words without using the f word. Very well articulated again sir. You point out the same things that drives me crazy about TYT. Please don’t get it wrong I love what they are doing but Cenk calling himself progressive is very laughable. The fact that he “believes in capitalism” is the most telling.
At certain point during this hour Cenk talks about how “alt-right” that does not like Jews is now in power, but this claim is fake news: there are two “alt-rights”:
1. Bennen, Brietbart, Yiannopoulos, Harris, Alex Jones, et cetera have nothing against Jews, some of them are Jews themselves, they are very pro Israel, and they got some power within Trump administration. Trump himself is a huge fan of Jews as all of his children (minus the kid child) are either married or dating Jews, Trump Organization has mostly Jewish management. They also have nothing against LGBTs, but they have a lot against Muslims.
2. neo-Nazis that try to rename themselves “alt-right”: Richard Spencer and his ilk. They call the first alt-right “cucks” as they obviously do not like Jews, LGBTs, and they are fanatical about the purity of blood other typical Nazi stuff.
This distinction, of course, does not make the first “alt-right” sensible and rational as hating/segregating people on the basis or religion is not much better than than also by the purity of blood.
I agree. So far there’s no real evidence implicating Russia. And since when do lefties believe the CIA and the FBI? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof and I ain’t seein’ it. Also, if it becomes apparent the government is lying, will TYT admit they fell for it? My understanding is they don’t believe in apologizing. Isn’t that something we’re supposed to learn in Kindergarten?
I figured out the system was broken well after the 2004 election but before the 2008 election, so I’ve pretty much expected much of what happened. I haven’t liked it, but I wasn’t surprised. I get the feeling Cenk still hopes the system can be fixed. I disagree. We need a new political party and a bottom-up non-violent revolution. We may even need a brand new Constitution.
Even so, I’m supporting TYT for several reasons: Wolf PAC, Jordan Chariton, the new investigative reporters and to a lesser extent, Jimmy Dore.
Totally agree. Cenk hopes that Keith Ellison is the solution to the Democratic party. But while he is more adequate than others, he is deeply problematic candidate, too, and Cenk does not admit it.
By the way, I have to critique TYT coverage often, but I do support Cenk because I do not think that he is ever consciously malicious, he might be be just wrong and too in-the-bubble; I support him for his Wolf PAC efforts, for Jordan Chariton, for James Dore.
You can be an agnostic atheist (and agnostic theist/gnostic atheist/gnostic theist) and Cenk has won a Freedom From Religion Foundation award along side much smarter people like Sean Carrol and Richard Dawkins.
Richard Dawkins is an ass, but he and Sean Carroll are brilliant. There’s no denying it. I don’t know any person details about Sean Carroll, but I have read at least one of his books. Cenk is just a reporter. Who’s right isn’t a matter of intelligence; it’s a matter of who has the facts on his side. Oftentimes, geniuses can be horrible people and completely wrong on social matters.
First he is not atheist, he is agnostic. Second, I think it’s just habit. I am atheist and I say it a lot but usually very sarcastically, but sometimes it just works. It really keeps people thinking if they know you are atheist.
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I’d like to see the whole “Buy Us News” on YouTube, please. That’s a handy reference for how things got the way they are.
Right wingers don’t believe in equality. Jesus said don’t oppress the Jews because they’re Gods chosen people. Muslims believe in Jesus Christ, if I am not mistaken, and freedom of religion is protected under the first amendment. Federalist and Anti-Federalist are the two parties still in existence today.
interesting page https://tytnetwork.com/tyt-glossary/
Someone should write than in the inside of a ring. “This shall be enshrined in law, one religion to rule us all”
At 57:00 Cenk cites the need for ELECTION REFORM, and then goes on to pitch it as an additional, broad GOAL of http://www.wolf-pac.com. That statement, expanding Wolf-Pac’s mission, was pivotal in my decision to join Wolf-Pac and become a monthly-contributing member today.
I’m already a member of Wolf-PAC, but Jordan Chariton’s reporting convinced me to become a member of TYT, although I wish they would issue retractions when they get something wrong. This “no apologies” business is shit. We all have to apologize sometimes. Saying, “I made a mistake. I’m sorry and I’ll try very hard not to do it again” is what separates adults from children. TBH, I’m not as good at it as I should be, so maybe TYT and I can mature together? I don’t know.
I’ve also donated twice to hire a reporter, all because I’m super impressed with Jordan Chariton. I spent my Christmas money on it. Sorry, family, but you all voted for Trump. I didn’t even want to shell out cash for lumps of coal to put in your stockings. Voting 3rd party I can understand, but voting directly for the guy when you have more money than most American citizens is destructive. I can understand and forgive “brick” voters. They’ll pay fairly early on, but my family will probably be able to get along just fine. Yeah, I forgive my family, but what little money I have is going to tear down corruption. I hope.
THREE MISTAKES BY CENK (the third one by the elector guy, too):
1. Huffington Post leans Democratic neolib establishment, not “progressive”; they were tool for Hillary all the way, also exposed by Wikileaks;
2. Brooking Institution is not left-wing, it is neolib. They are big supporters of the exceptionalism, of the neocolonial, neoimperialist policies of the “regime change” coups and wars that Obama wages, the installation of right-wing/neo-Nazi-driven regimes and terrorists tyrannies instead of governments that were overthrown (as in Honduras, Libya, Ukraine, Syria during the Obama years).
3. Cenk and the elector guy repeat the baseless claim that the hacks were done by the Russian government (see below, if you are not aware how founded the claim is). Sorry, but I have to repeat the details on what Cenk has randomly chose to believe in:
The level of proof that the hacking was done by the Russian government is truly epic. The phishing mail to John Podesta came from Ukraine. But Ukraine is almost Russia. And Russia is almost the same as the Russian government/FSB-GRU special hacking forces. And, of course, the Russian military intelligence uses Yandex, the biggest Russian mail service. No one but the Russian special hacking forces could carry out the incredible military intelligence operation of making Podesta fall for the most basic and dumb phishing mail that pretended to be from from Google and asked to change password. And the DNC hack’s “evidence” is also amazing. Some of the documents are signed by “Felix Edmundovich”, who was the founder of the KGB/FSB’s predecessor. It is like believing that the CIA would hack Russia using the nome de guerre “Allen Dulles”.
The “evidence” is so ridiculous that they understood that they can not claim it was GRU’s special hacking forces any more (as they did initially), so now they made “one step away” excuse (meaning it was not the FSB’s hacking teams, but “middlemen”) to still blame the hacks on the Russian government with literally zero actual evidence. The CIA/intelligence community has never released any information: they only have anonymously claimed that they believe with “high confidence” that the Russian government has carried out the hacks under direct command of Putin (their secret evidence is so strong that it took other agencies months to agree with that, but they did).
The released DNI/DHS report from October, the only government document on this matter, had to use phrases like “we believe” and “activity consistent with” that are code words for “we do not know, but we really need to help Clinton’s neo-MacCarthyite campaign”. The White House said they will not release any evidence, but continue to refer to the publicly available reports by the DNC-paid government contractors CrowdStrike and FireEye whose claims are laughable.
Another glorious “high confidence” reports from the intelligence community included the claim that Qaddafi was about to commit mass massacres back in 2011, when Clinton/Obama needed an excuse to destroy Libya in “regime change” war against the country (the UK parliament had it investigated this year, and found it to be false), as well as “Assad gassing his own people” in 2013 (as per Turkish whistle-blower, jailed by Erdogan already, the culprits was Al-Qaeda of Syria, and they used chemical weapons from Libya, smuggled with the help of Turkey; Seymour Hersh has independently reported the same), let alone the most famous of all “high confidence” report from the Bush years that Saddam had WMDs and was tied to Al-Qaeda. It almost as if the intelligence community is a documented serial perjurer, always used as a political tool to release whatever lie the ruling establishment demands of them: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/18/books/review-debriefing-the-president-tears-into-the-cia.html?_r=0
Standing fucking ovation sir. See I can’t even type two words without using the f word. Very well articulated again sir. You point out the same things that drives me crazy about TYT. Please don’t get it wrong I love what they are doing but Cenk calling himself progressive is very laughable. The fact that he “believes in capitalism” is the most telling.
At certain point during this hour Cenk talks about how “alt-right” that does not like Jews is now in power, but this claim is fake news: there are two “alt-rights”:
1. Bennen, Brietbart, Yiannopoulos, Harris, Alex Jones, et cetera have nothing against Jews, some of them are Jews themselves, they are very pro Israel, and they got some power within Trump administration. Trump himself is a huge fan of Jews as all of his children (minus the kid child) are either married or dating Jews, Trump Organization has mostly Jewish management. They also have nothing against LGBTs, but they have a lot against Muslims.
2. neo-Nazis that try to rename themselves “alt-right”: Richard Spencer and his ilk. They call the first alt-right “cucks” as they obviously do not like Jews, LGBTs, and they are fanatical about the purity of blood other typical Nazi stuff.
This distinction, of course, does not make the first “alt-right” sensible and rational as hating/segregating people on the basis or religion is not much better than than also by the purity of blood.
I agree. So far there’s no real evidence implicating Russia. And since when do lefties believe the CIA and the FBI? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof and I ain’t seein’ it. Also, if it becomes apparent the government is lying, will TYT admit they fell for it? My understanding is they don’t believe in apologizing. Isn’t that something we’re supposed to learn in Kindergarten?
I figured out the system was broken well after the 2004 election but before the 2008 election, so I’ve pretty much expected much of what happened. I haven’t liked it, but I wasn’t surprised. I get the feeling Cenk still hopes the system can be fixed. I disagree. We need a new political party and a bottom-up non-violent revolution. We may even need a brand new Constitution.
Even so, I’m supporting TYT for several reasons: Wolf PAC, Jordan Chariton, the new investigative reporters and to a lesser extent, Jimmy Dore.
Totally agree. Cenk hopes that Keith Ellison is the solution to the Democratic party. But while he is more adequate than others, he is deeply problematic candidate, too, and Cenk does not admit it.
By the way, I have to critique TYT coverage often, but I do support Cenk because I do not think that he is ever consciously malicious, he might be be just wrong and too in-the-bubble; I support him for his Wolf PAC efforts, for Jordan Chariton, for James Dore.
Smart man, that elector.
You can be an agnostic atheist (and agnostic theist/gnostic atheist/gnostic theist) and Cenk has won a Freedom From Religion Foundation award along side much smarter people like Sean Carrol and Richard Dawkins.
https://ffrf.org/outreach/awards/emperor-has-no-clothes-award
cenk is smarter than both those ppl
Richard Dawkins is an ass, but he and Sean Carroll are brilliant. There’s no denying it. I don’t know any person details about Sean Carroll, but I have read at least one of his books. Cenk is just a reporter. Who’s right isn’t a matter of intelligence; it’s a matter of who has the facts on his side. Oftentimes, geniuses can be horrible people and completely wrong on social matters.
Why do you say “god bless” as an atheist (I am also atheist and am just wondering)…
It’s just like an idiom he’s been using forever is all
First he is not atheist, he is agnostic. Second, I think it’s just habit. I am atheist and I say it a lot but usually very sarcastically, but sometimes it just works. It really keeps people thinking if they know you are atheist.
Check out the TYT glossary for the official response (/tyt-glossary) and because it’s amusing.
He gets that it makes no sense, but he doesn’t mean it literally, basically.
https://tytnetwork.com/tyt-glossary/