I would love to see an episode on Robert Pickton. He’s one of the most – if not the most – notorious serial killers from here in British Columbia. He’s still in prison, just came out with a book last year. It’s extremely messed up, but there’s a lot to get into with him and I’d love to hear your take on it.
I love the older historic episodes!!! For fun you should listen to Dan Carlin’s hard core history “Prophets of doom”. Great podcasts this one seems right up your alley!
My father was a student at the University of Texas when Charles Whitman climbed the tower and opened fire. He told me the story of a radio news man who was reading the names of the victims, and his son’s name was on the list. That was how he found out that his son had been killed. Years later when I went to UT and took a TV production class, we weren’t allowed to use anything even resembling a gun in our productions because, in my teacher’s words, “people see a gun and get visions of Charles Whitman.”
Whitman was the original “campus killer.” I think it would make an interesting episode.
Please dont do historic old once. Columbine i would love. Mass shootings.
And murders who are evt caught.
So closure.
And for example not a story who has to little info and coverage. I love the photos of crimescenes and interviews.
And different sngles to motive.
But i dont give mych for hungarian or dracula stories. Thats more bedtime stories. I want evidence policework. Dept please
Grace, you mentioned a show on the Night Stalker is in the works. PLEASE tell me you mean the East Area Rapist/Original Night Stalker (EAR/ONS)! He’s the only killer that I have to wait for daylight to read about. A show on him would be fantastic. Here’s an article by the late Michelle McNamara about him (she dubbed him the Golden State Killer): http://www.lamag.com/longform/in-the-footsteps-of-a-killer/
Oh pretty please can you do a segment on Robert Durst, emphasis on various locations he has lived, & mysterious disappearance/murders of neighbors (Trinidad, humboldt county CA)
Also, love you guys. Great show.
Great show! Thanks for doing this Q&A. Looking forward to the Ed Gein episode. My Dad’s grandparents were his next door neighbors outside Plainfield Wisconsin. They were about a mile away, but my Dad would ride his bike past the Gein house to get to town. They were all, of course, surprised by everything as it unfolded. They just saw Ed as the quiet and probably simple neighbor that seemed to get along better with the kids than the adults. My Dad didn’t have any stories about him because he was only there summers and only 7 yrs old at the time of Ed Gein’s arrest, but I’ve been facinated ever since finding this out!
i really like this episode, it’s chock-full of information. especially glad you’re going to do Ed Gein. i wish you’d do Dennis Rader (BTK) — he went to such elaborate lengths to bind and torture his victims. it’s totally prurient. and his confession was one more prurient episode in his murderous life, where he told all – literally – in a flat voice, and with no visible expression, but seemed to be enjoying himself immensely. it was incredible to watch him relate his crimes in that voice, remorselessly droning on and on, not wanting to leave out a single incident. it’s just my theory, but i really believe that he got total sexual satisfaction just by confessing. not the act of confession, but the recounting of the acts of torture and murder. anyway, he’s got my vote.
I second Dennis Rader. My mom went to school with Dennis’ wife and remembers talking with them before (she thinks Dennis asked my dad about floppy disks at one point, but I’m not sure that’s true). My father-in-law was a sheriff’s officer during the time Dennis was on trial and at one point was in charge of the remote for the stun belt – he can even be seen standing behind Dennis in some of the court photos.
Delighted to find so many ppl share this guilty pleasure w/ me~!
Watch for it: Early January there’s to be a special short series
on the Menendez Bros. The trailer is out.
Hindley and Brady would be a good one. Perhaps a feature on child killers too eg Jon Venables. And if you want to venture to Australian killers, you could look at Snowtown (the bodies in the barrels), the Truro murders and the backpacker killer, Ivan Milat.
Keep up the great work!!
Thanks for the interesting show. I can see it becoming more polished since those first few episodes. And you bring up cases I’d never heard of, as well as info I didn’t know on cases I was already familiar with to whatever extent, so it’s informative and entertaining… keep up the great work and steady improvements!
You mentioned doing episodes in the future like this Q&A one, as a way to stay connected to the audience and accountable… made me think of a possible format suggestion (as a complement to these periodic all-Q&A episodes):
What about doing a mini-Q&A at the start of each episode, regarding the immediately-previous episode’s topic(s)? You could devote the first 5 minutes, or whatever, to reading and responding to a handful of comments/contributions or questions you’ve selected from the audience about the prior episode, to create a stronger connection to audience and make it more “interactive”… and to create a certain sense of continuity between episodes too (might also help entice newcomers to go back and catch up on previous episodes, because they’re curious about the referenced episode… could help underscore for new viewers that this is a series, if they’re not quite familiar with the show yet)
My understanding is that this show is available on-demand via YouTube for free, yeah? An alternative version of the above suggestion is you could limit the comments to which you respond on-air by only selecting among TYT member forum comments: another way to reward existing paid members, even on a show that’s otherwise free, and a way to encourage/remind people to sign up as members so that this and other TYT shows can continue to afford to offer new content. And then the periodic all-Q&A episodes could be open to comments from all sources. Just as examples. I’m just thinking it might help people feel like being a paid member has its benefits even where free shows like this one are concerned :-)
Another suggestion is, when covering a given event or historical figure, to give acknowledgements to the audience member(s) who brought your attention to that topic IF it was one you hadn’t previously heard of prior to reading their suggestions, by mentioning the screen names of contributors who came up with it (and maybe also which forum each contributor of a given topic was on–Twitter, YouTube, TYT member comments, etc) as you’re introducing that topic at the beginning of its episode… I’ve seen some suggestions in these TYT member forums that I’d never heard of, some seem quite obscure yet sound really interesting, so it might be another way to encourage and reward audience participation.
Oh! Also, periodic theme months (or theme weeks, if the show becomes a daily one;-)… might be kind of interesting too… a way to create larger contexts, even in relation to singular, stand-alone events… like in January, at the end of each episode, plug future months by telling us which theme February and April will be, for example, and encourage submission of ideas if ya want… Amir was saying he wants to branch out to even things that happened during wars, or Columbine and similar, so you could say, “Remember, February will be World War II atrocities, and what may be lesser-known murderous war crimes of the Nazis like Kristallnacht, and in April we’ll be focusing on domestic terrorism attacks like Columbine and Unabomber. Submit your ideas and requests for events within those topics, especially ones that most of us might not be very familiar with but should cover.” Themes could include:
Assassinations (Kennedy, Lincoln, Martin Luther King Jr, Malcolm X, CIA death squads/political assassination [attempts?] like Allende, etc)…
Mafia hitmen, like Abe Reles and Roy DeMeo…
I love the idea of historical episodes! How about the great depression? So much to talk about with crime and economic desperation. Geekgasam! Top of my wish list would be the Barrow gang. They failed so spectacularly, but they had such a massive impact on popular culture.
I would like to first say how much I love this channel and Grace lol. I would really like to see you do a short episode on the Rosewood Massacre that took place 1923 in rural Levy County, Florida . It is one of those stories that history likes to ignore because of its awfulness.
Another male-female British couple they could cover is Myra Hindley and Ian Brady. They killed children and it’s an open question how much Myra was influenced by Ian and whether she truly was regretful later in her life.
Speaking of historical events, can you please speak on the Massacre at My Lai? I took a humanities class in college called “The Problem of Good and Evil” and it was all about the dark side of humanity and what all people are capable of. I left that class understanding that we all must stay vigilant and aware of that side of ourselves and guard against loosing our morals. We talked about this massacre in depth when we were discussing how ordinary people are capable of extraordinary evil under the right circumstances. Listening to the men who committed this massacre talk about what they have done is very interesting, especially when you see how they are and are not able to live with themselves after what they have done.
Love this show, so glad you are doing it once a week, twice a month would never be enough!! I second Bekanator about Japan’s Suicide Forest, great idea. Along those lines and since Amir mentioned death in wars, how about the USS Indianapolis?
Excited and nervous for the Dahmer episode. If it’s allowable to have a favourite serial killer, he is mine. I even wrote a personal essay on him for a criminal psychology course I took. I’ve wanted to suggest you do it, but I haven’t because I’m selfish, and don’t want someone else to cover it! I want to do it! But that’s impossible! So, I can only hope that you pick the most amazing co-host that will do it justice!
Also I second the suggestions for Robert Pickton, and The Highway of Tears! And if you have any more unsolved ones that offer lots of room for speculation, those are always fun.
The thing about the JonBenét Ramsey case that makes me think it wasn’t a member of the family is that unknown male DNA on the waistband AND the underwear. That DNA was not from the Ramsey’s son or John Ramsey. And it takes a long time to choke someone to death. I don’t think a 9-year-old would be a good suspect for that kind of killing without other signs of extreme violence and emotional problems.
Glad you’re planning on doing H.H. Holmes! Some interesting cases where parts of the story aren’t fully known, or that have weird elements, are:
Yang Xinhai (most prolific serial killer in China)
Andrei Chikatilo (Soviet serial killer, AKA Butcher of Rostov, Red Ripper, and Rostov Ripper)
Luis Garavito (Colombian serial killer, AKA La Bestia)
Charles Edmund Cullen (The Angel of Death)
Paul Knowles (The Casanova Killer)
Charles Ng and Leonard Lake
The Sunset Strip Killers (Douglas Clark and Carol Bundy)
Still rooting for an episode on Robert Pickton (the pig farmer), or even an episode on British Columbia’s Highway of Tears where many aboriginal women have disappeared and been murdered between the 60s to the early 00s. Exploring more places where mass amounts of people have died like Japan’s Suicide Forest or similar areas would be interesting too.
I would say Genene Jones.. If you don’t know her I’m going to warn you that its SUPER dark as her focus was on killing newborns. If that is just way too sad (I get it I actually had a hard time reading about it years back and still get kind of emotional thinking about it after having children) there is also another interesting one Efren Saldivar or the Angel of Death. Both I think are the scariest of all because they were care givers in hospitals. The people we trust most to save us. BTW really enjoyed this episode and look forward to the Holmes show.
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Lizzy Borden. Lizzy Borden.
You might think, Jack the Ripper, and or Lizzy Borden if you want to do something more historical and legendary.
You guys should do a conspiracy theory analysis on the Smiley Face Murders :o
How about Israel Keyes?
Here’s one: “The Torso Murders” Google that one. Great show BTW.
I would love to see an episode on Robert Pickton. He’s one of the most – if not the most – notorious serial killers from here in British Columbia. He’s still in prison, just came out with a book last year. It’s extremely messed up, but there’s a lot to get into with him and I’d love to hear your take on it.
I love the older historic episodes!!! For fun you should listen to Dan Carlin’s hard core history “Prophets of doom”. Great podcasts this one seems right up your alley!
My father was a student at the University of Texas when Charles Whitman climbed the tower and opened fire. He told me the story of a radio news man who was reading the names of the victims, and his son’s name was on the list. That was how he found out that his son had been killed. Years later when I went to UT and took a TV production class, we weren’t allowed to use anything even resembling a gun in our productions because, in my teacher’s words, “people see a gun and get visions of Charles Whitman.”
Whitman was the original “campus killer.” I think it would make an interesting episode.
Please dont do historic old once. Columbine i would love. Mass shootings.
And murders who are evt caught.
So closure.
And for example not a story who has to little info and coverage. I love the photos of crimescenes and interviews.
And different sngles to motive.
But i dont give mych for hungarian or dracula stories. Thats more bedtime stories. I want evidence policework. Dept please
Grace, you mentioned a show on the Night Stalker is in the works. PLEASE tell me you mean the East Area Rapist/Original Night Stalker (EAR/ONS)! He’s the only killer that I have to wait for daylight to read about. A show on him would be fantastic. Here’s an article by the late Michelle McNamara about him (she dubbed him the Golden State Killer): http://www.lamag.com/longform/in-the-footsteps-of-a-killer/
Can u please cover Richard speck who hated women and killed nurses and eventually kinda gave himself an ironic self punishment while in prison
Oh pretty please can you do a segment on Robert Durst, emphasis on various locations he has lived, & mysterious disappearance/murders of neighbors (Trinidad, humboldt county CA)
Also, love you guys. Great show.
I don’t think you should feel guilty at all for having sympathy for some of the murderers you cover. It makes you the opposite of a murderer!
Great show! Thanks for doing this Q&A. Looking forward to the Ed Gein episode. My Dad’s grandparents were his next door neighbors outside Plainfield Wisconsin. They were about a mile away, but my Dad would ride his bike past the Gein house to get to town. They were all, of course, surprised by everything as it unfolded. They just saw Ed as the quiet and probably simple neighbor that seemed to get along better with the kids than the adults. My Dad didn’t have any stories about him because he was only there summers and only 7 yrs old at the time of Ed Gein’s arrest, but I’ve been facinated ever since finding this out!
i really like this episode, it’s chock-full of information. especially glad you’re going to do Ed Gein. i wish you’d do Dennis Rader (BTK) — he went to such elaborate lengths to bind and torture his victims. it’s totally prurient. and his confession was one more prurient episode in his murderous life, where he told all – literally – in a flat voice, and with no visible expression, but seemed to be enjoying himself immensely. it was incredible to watch him relate his crimes in that voice, remorselessly droning on and on, not wanting to leave out a single incident. it’s just my theory, but i really believe that he got total sexual satisfaction just by confessing. not the act of confession, but the recounting of the acts of torture and murder. anyway, he’s got my vote.
I second Dennis Rader. My mom went to school with Dennis’ wife and remembers talking with them before (she thinks Dennis asked my dad about floppy disks at one point, but I’m not sure that’s true). My father-in-law was a sheriff’s officer during the time Dennis was on trial and at one point was in charge of the remote for the stun belt – he can even be seen standing behind Dennis in some of the court photos.
I think this would make an interesting episode: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Villisca_axe_murders
Delighted to find so many ppl share this guilty pleasure w/ me~!
Watch for it: Early January there’s to be a special short series
on the Menendez Bros. The trailer is out.
Go, Grace~!
~Upaya~
Hindley and Brady would be a good one. Perhaps a feature on child killers too eg Jon Venables. And if you want to venture to Australian killers, you could look at Snowtown (the bodies in the barrels), the Truro murders and the backpacker killer, Ivan Milat.
Keep up the great work!!
Thanks for the interesting show. I can see it becoming more polished since those first few episodes. And you bring up cases I’d never heard of, as well as info I didn’t know on cases I was already familiar with to whatever extent, so it’s informative and entertaining… keep up the great work and steady improvements!
You mentioned doing episodes in the future like this Q&A one, as a way to stay connected to the audience and accountable… made me think of a possible format suggestion (as a complement to these periodic all-Q&A episodes):
What about doing a mini-Q&A at the start of each episode, regarding the immediately-previous episode’s topic(s)? You could devote the first 5 minutes, or whatever, to reading and responding to a handful of comments/contributions or questions you’ve selected from the audience about the prior episode, to create a stronger connection to audience and make it more “interactive”… and to create a certain sense of continuity between episodes too (might also help entice newcomers to go back and catch up on previous episodes, because they’re curious about the referenced episode… could help underscore for new viewers that this is a series, if they’re not quite familiar with the show yet)
My understanding is that this show is available on-demand via YouTube for free, yeah? An alternative version of the above suggestion is you could limit the comments to which you respond on-air by only selecting among TYT member forum comments: another way to reward existing paid members, even on a show that’s otherwise free, and a way to encourage/remind people to sign up as members so that this and other TYT shows can continue to afford to offer new content. And then the periodic all-Q&A episodes could be open to comments from all sources. Just as examples. I’m just thinking it might help people feel like being a paid member has its benefits even where free shows like this one are concerned :-)
Another suggestion is, when covering a given event or historical figure, to give acknowledgements to the audience member(s) who brought your attention to that topic IF it was one you hadn’t previously heard of prior to reading their suggestions, by mentioning the screen names of contributors who came up with it (and maybe also which forum each contributor of a given topic was on–Twitter, YouTube, TYT member comments, etc) as you’re introducing that topic at the beginning of its episode… I’ve seen some suggestions in these TYT member forums that I’d never heard of, some seem quite obscure yet sound really interesting, so it might be another way to encourage and reward audience participation.
Oh! Also, periodic theme months (or theme weeks, if the show becomes a daily one;-)… might be kind of interesting too… a way to create larger contexts, even in relation to singular, stand-alone events… like in January, at the end of each episode, plug future months by telling us which theme February and April will be, for example, and encourage submission of ideas if ya want… Amir was saying he wants to branch out to even things that happened during wars, or Columbine and similar, so you could say, “Remember, February will be World War II atrocities, and what may be lesser-known murderous war crimes of the Nazis like Kristallnacht, and in April we’ll be focusing on domestic terrorism attacks like Columbine and Unabomber. Submit your ideas and requests for events within those topics, especially ones that most of us might not be very familiar with but should cover.” Themes could include:
Assassinations (Kennedy, Lincoln, Martin Luther King Jr, Malcolm X, CIA death squads/political assassination [attempts?] like Allende, etc)…
Mafia hitmen, like Abe Reles and Roy DeMeo…
I love the idea of historical episodes! How about the great depression? So much to talk about with crime and economic desperation. Geekgasam! Top of my wish list would be the Barrow gang. They failed so spectacularly, but they had such a massive impact on popular culture.
Such a great show, and very excited that you’re planning more historical episodes. Bathory and the Bloody Benders are definitely my favorite so far.
Love love love when Cecilia is on. I second the Mai Lai massacre suggestion!
I would like to first say how much I love this channel and Grace lol. I would really like to see you do a short episode on the Rosewood Massacre that took place 1923 in rural Levy County, Florida . It is one of those stories that history likes to ignore because of its awfulness.
One idea for a show would be Fred and Rosemary West, British serial killer couple.
Another male-female British couple they could cover is Myra Hindley and Ian Brady. They killed children and it’s an open question how much Myra was influenced by Ian and whether she truly was regretful later in her life.
Speaking of historical events, can you please speak on the Massacre at My Lai? I took a humanities class in college called “The Problem of Good and Evil” and it was all about the dark side of humanity and what all people are capable of. I left that class understanding that we all must stay vigilant and aware of that side of ourselves and guard against loosing our morals. We talked about this massacre in depth when we were discussing how ordinary people are capable of extraordinary evil under the right circumstances. Listening to the men who committed this massacre talk about what they have done is very interesting, especially when you see how they are and are not able to live with themselves after what they have done.
Love this show, so glad you are doing it once a week, twice a month would never be enough!! I second Bekanator about Japan’s Suicide Forest, great idea. Along those lines and since Amir mentioned death in wars, how about the USS Indianapolis?
This historic ones are my favorite! Can’t wait for Jack the Ripper!
love the show! would be cool to see you guys do a show on Dennis Nilsen. He was like the London version of Jeffrey Dahmer
Excited and nervous for the Dahmer episode. If it’s allowable to have a favourite serial killer, he is mine. I even wrote a personal essay on him for a criminal psychology course I took. I’ve wanted to suggest you do it, but I haven’t because I’m selfish, and don’t want someone else to cover it! I want to do it! But that’s impossible! So, I can only hope that you pick the most amazing co-host that will do it justice!
Also I second the suggestions for Robert Pickton, and The Highway of Tears! And if you have any more unsolved ones that offer lots of room for speculation, those are always fun.
The thing about the JonBenét Ramsey case that makes me think it wasn’t a member of the family is that unknown male DNA on the waistband AND the underwear. That DNA was not from the Ramsey’s son or John Ramsey. And it takes a long time to choke someone to death. I don’t think a 9-year-old would be a good suspect for that kind of killing without other signs of extreme violence and emotional problems.
Glad you’re planning on doing H.H. Holmes! Some interesting cases where parts of the story aren’t fully known, or that have weird elements, are:
Yang Xinhai (most prolific serial killer in China)
Andrei Chikatilo (Soviet serial killer, AKA Butcher of Rostov, Red Ripper, and Rostov Ripper)
Luis Garavito (Colombian serial killer, AKA La Bestia)
Charles Edmund Cullen (The Angel of Death)
Paul Knowles (The Casanova Killer)
Charles Ng and Leonard Lake
The Sunset Strip Killers (Douglas Clark and Carol Bundy)
Still rooting for an episode on Robert Pickton (the pig farmer), or even an episode on British Columbia’s Highway of Tears where many aboriginal women have disappeared and been murdered between the 60s to the early 00s. Exploring more places where mass amounts of people have died like Japan’s Suicide Forest or similar areas would be interesting too.
I would say Genene Jones.. If you don’t know her I’m going to warn you that its SUPER dark as her focus was on killing newborns. If that is just way too sad (I get it I actually had a hard time reading about it years back and still get kind of emotional thinking about it after having children) there is also another interesting one Efren Saldivar or the Angel of Death. Both I think are the scariest of all because they were care givers in hospitals. The people we trust most to save us. BTW really enjoyed this episode and look forward to the Holmes show.
I don’t know much about Ted Bundy or Jeffrey Dahmer at all, wouldn’t mind episodes on them.
There’s a craptastic 1980’s made-for-tv movie on Ted Bundy starring Marc Harmon (when he was People’s Sexiest Man), called The Deliberate Stranger.
MUST do Ted Bundy! I cannot believe they haven’t done him yet.