Grace Baldridge is joined by the entire Murder With Friends crew- Amir Nikoui, Cassie Hanks, and Elle Kuan- to discuss the unsolved Oklahoma Girl Scout Murders that occurred on the morning of June 13, 1977, at Camp Scott.
Grace, my husband and I (Michael and Robin Bitrick) love your show. Here are a couple of additional cases Michael asked me to let you know: 1. Rodney Alcala “The Dating Game Killer” and 2. Charles Schmid “The Pied Piper of Tucson”. Keep up the great work. One thing that gives me the creeps is laughter in the back ground canned music and some of the guest appear immature when they laugh and giggle. The antics may be so crazy, but show some respect for the families who lost loved ones please.
I’ve watched most of the episodes of “Murder with Friends”. This show is amazing !!! I love the format and Grace manages to keep the information riveting. Huge fan now !!
Thanks for the video.
The “supernatural” stuff doesn’t hold water, obviously.
Shapeshifters do not exist, the guy in the woods may have been a member of a Cherokee clan, who probably still know some tricks of how to hide in a forest.
This could also be the reason why the dogs couldn’t find the guy.
The curse is bs.
It is not proven that the Medicine man cursed the dogs, and even if he did, it might all be a coincidence either way.
Maybe the dog didn’t get along with the stressful situation, the journey, or the dog was actually poisoned by the Medicine man.
A dog being hit by a car happens, too.
Supposedly they found other DNA? Whether or not I remembered that correctly, did they ever consider that the medicine man friend might have been involved in the murders and investigate him?
wait are you saying that the counselors had their own tent?! They didn’t stay in the tents WITH the campers? They left the campers ALONE????? What the FUck?
Yup. Girl Scout camps in the 1990s were the same way. The camps I went to all had us in individual tents, though they were much closer together in those days, but even then, in super severe thunderstorms, you couldn’t hear the tents across the area from you. The CIT tent that had the councillor for that group and the councillors in training in it was pretty central to everything, but not always dead centre; I’m not sure how well they could hear all the tents, I never made it to CIT.
Love this show, can’t get enough! I keep seeing the portrait of Vlad Tepes behind Grace and can’t wait for an Impaler episode. It would be great to see episodes on the Monster of Florence and also H.H. Holmes in Chicago, I know both those have been written about extensively, but that’s because they are so interesting!
Great choice of a story. So many creepy elements, camping, girl scouts, thunderstorms, the note, the glasses, supernatural shapeshifting rumors, the dogs, escaped prisoners!
So now it’s a shorter episode and no longer comes out wednesdays? Has someone explained what’s going on and I just missed it? Because I am thoroughly confused.
Perhaps they shot 3 episodes at one time. The 20-minute Girl Scout segment was just the first third. If the other two guests each have a topic of their own, that would add up to a full hour. Maybe Grace is trying to bank material in advance to get through the holiday.
It’s so weird. I’m part Cherokee (also Creek and Lakota), and lived in Oklahoma when this happened. Granted, I was 3, but my mother loved to talk about things like this. I moved around a lot after the age of 12, but moved back to Oklahoma for quite awhile when I was in my twenties. I’ve never heard of this case. I wonder if she didn’t talk about it because she didn’t want us talking about it with other people. Still, it’s very freaky.
Never even heard of these murders. ‘Welcome to Gene Town’, huh. Sheesh, way before social media no less.
About the DNA check, they need to redo it now, 2002 did not see the kind of advanced technology that currently exists. The real identity of Jack the Ripper was found from a very complex DNA test done successfully on a murdered woman’s shawl that of course dated back over 130 years ago. Also unlike the Joan Benet Ramsey case, the Scouts murder scene was quickly contained and articles for examination have been preserved.
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Grace, my husband and I (Michael and Robin Bitrick) love your show. Here are a couple of additional cases Michael asked me to let you know: 1. Rodney Alcala “The Dating Game Killer” and 2. Charles Schmid “The Pied Piper of Tucson”. Keep up the great work. One thing that gives me the creeps is laughter in the back ground canned music and some of the guest appear immature when they laugh and giggle. The antics may be so crazy, but show some respect for the families who lost loved ones please.
I’ve watched most of the episodes of “Murder with Friends”. This show is amazing !!! I love the format and Grace manages to keep the information riveting. Huge fan now !!
Why so short and largest panel? So much more can be done.
I wanna know
Was the medicine man shoe tested?
Retest the dna 2002 is technique way older
And as relply huh they solved jack the ripper? Who is he?
Thanks for the video.
The “supernatural” stuff doesn’t hold water, obviously.
Shapeshifters do not exist, the guy in the woods may have been a member of a Cherokee clan, who probably still know some tricks of how to hide in a forest.
This could also be the reason why the dogs couldn’t find the guy.
The curse is bs.
It is not proven that the Medicine man cursed the dogs, and even if he did, it might all be a coincidence either way.
Maybe the dog didn’t get along with the stressful situation, the journey, or the dog was actually poisoned by the Medicine man.
A dog being hit by a car happens, too.
Supposedly they found other DNA? Whether or not I remembered that correctly, did they ever consider that the medicine man friend might have been involved in the murders and investigate him?
wait are you saying that the counselors had their own tent?! They didn’t stay in the tents WITH the campers? They left the campers ALONE????? What the FUck?
Yup. Girl Scout camps in the 1990s were the same way. The camps I went to all had us in individual tents, though they were much closer together in those days, but even then, in super severe thunderstorms, you couldn’t hear the tents across the area from you. The CIT tent that had the councillor for that group and the councillors in training in it was pretty central to everything, but not always dead centre; I’m not sure how well they could hear all the tents, I never made it to CIT.
Awesome story but told really really poorly…
What? and WTF. No one for real thinks this guy can shapeshift into an owl. If anyone truly believed that they are insane.
Love this show, can’t get enough! I keep seeing the portrait of Vlad Tepes behind Grace and can’t wait for an Impaler episode. It would be great to see episodes on the Monster of Florence and also H.H. Holmes in Chicago, I know both those have been written about extensively, but that’s because they are so interesting!
Great choice of a story. So many creepy elements, camping, girl scouts, thunderstorms, the note, the glasses, supernatural shapeshifting rumors, the dogs, escaped prisoners!
1. Loooove this show! Grace, you rock! 2. How about The Black Widow, Blanche Taylor Moore?
Defiantly check out the medicine man’s shoe size, and also DNA tests should be redone, as mentioned above. LOVE this show – Grace you rock!
I would like to know what size shoe the medicine man wore. His role in this seems ver
*very suspicious
You have to do the Iceman!!! Richard Kuklinski. Mob hitman and serial killer at the same time.
So now it’s a shorter episode and no longer comes out wednesdays? Has someone explained what’s going on and I just missed it? Because I am thoroughly confused.
Perhaps they shot 3 episodes at one time. The 20-minute Girl Scout segment was just the first third. If the other two guests each have a topic of their own, that would add up to a full hour. Maybe Grace is trying to bank material in advance to get through the holiday.
So.. the largest panel yet was assembled for a discussion that was 1/3 as long as most episodes…? What’s that about?
It’s so weird. I’m part Cherokee (also Creek and Lakota), and lived in Oklahoma when this happened. Granted, I was 3, but my mother loved to talk about things like this. I moved around a lot after the age of 12, but moved back to Oklahoma for quite awhile when I was in my twenties. I’ve never heard of this case. I wonder if she didn’t talk about it because she didn’t want us talking about it with other people. Still, it’s very freaky.
Never even heard of these murders. ‘Welcome to Gene Town’, huh. Sheesh, way before social media no less.
About the DNA check, they need to redo it now, 2002 did not see the kind of advanced technology that currently exists. The real identity of Jack the Ripper was found from a very complex DNA test done successfully on a murdered woman’s shawl that of course dated back over 130 years ago. Also unlike the Joan Benet Ramsey case, the Scouts murder scene was quickly contained and articles for examination have been preserved.
There should be answers to this case, bring it.
MORE MORE MORE!!!!!
Yeah, MORE ON THIS!
WOW! That is some crazy shit, almost sounds like an episode of supernatural. Unsolved Mysteries meets twin Peaks meets Stranger Things, yikes!
My favorite guilty pleasure.
Grace, you’ve really got IT…lots of IT~!
~upaya~
I had never heard of this in my entire life! This is a very interesting case!
interesting…
Love this show
Yeah, must agree. F
First time I’ve seen it. HOOKED!