Jordan Chariton’s DAPL footage. Female Trump supporters not bothered sexual assault allegations. Lil Wayne’s controversial comments on Black Lives Matter movement. School fakes students’ deaths in texting while driving social experiment.
Just a comment on the Fort Laramie Treaty. Yes, the land has never been ceded BUT look at the entirety of the nonconceded territory. It encompasses all of western SD, parts of ND, MT, WY, and NE. For context think about who and what currently hold and/or use the land. It’s all of the Black Hills and Badlands in SD. That’s several national monuments and forests including Mount Rushmore, Devil’s Tower, Black Hills National Forest. It includes the cities of Deadwood, Rapid City, Sturgis, to name just a few. The Black Hills are the epicenter of South Dakota’s tourism industry. And that doesn’t even begin to think of the volumes of ranchers, farmers, business people, rural and city residents in the area.
While I agree 100% with the principle of treaty rights non-Natives have held and built on this land for over 150 years. I don’t see any court in the land adjudicating on treaty rights at Standing Rock because there’s no way to limit it to just that small area without opening the entirety of the Fort Laramie Treaty area to dispute. That’s not gonna happen.
Your viewer “joshfrayer” has left a comment about a mistaken usage of the word “effortlessly” made by Ana and then confirmed by Cenk. He has entirely correctly suggested “relentlessly” as a reasonable alternative. This is my own posted reply to “joshfrayer”:
“Or ‘tirelessly’, or ‘untiringly’, or, perhaps, as has been suggested, ‘relentlessly’, or ‘unceasingly’, but the point is that there is INDEED effort involved in reporting on DAPL (especially as it is way the hell out in the Dakotas!) and that Jordan Chariton is not in the least deterred by that effort. To say that his work is ‘effortless’ (or that he has been working ‘effortlessly’) means that he is doing his work with such ready and easy skill that it requires no great effort on his part. That is clearly NOT what Ana meant, and good for her that she at least asked Cenk if she had chosen the right word. It is Cenk’s ‘bad’, on the other hand, that he confirmed Ana’s mistaken usage. You guys are just plain great, but YOU NEED A GRAMMARIAN!!! This DOES matter. I hear and read fairly egregious grammatical errors from you with some frequency. To my ear, the very worst of these is the mistaken substitution of the simple past when what you really want (and what is required) is the past participle. Statements such as ‘I could have went’, ‘I should have went’, ‘I wish I had went’, etc., are, frankly, just plain illiterate, in my view. I mean: whatever happened to the word ‘GONE’?!!! I won’t say who is the worst offender, because I respect you ALL very much for your serious, committed, and highly valuable reportage. But wouldn’t you rather be known, as well, for your truly competent use of your own language? Wouldn’t that actually improve the overall quality of your own journalism?”
I said of the gang at TYT that I think they’re “great” and added “I respect you ALL very much for your serious, committed, and highly valuable reportage”. Yes, I did, a bit testily perhaps, deem a particular mistaken usage (the elimination of the “perfect” tenses) “ILLITERATE”, because that’s how it strikes me. But, the suggestion that I have somehow made some kind of “personal attack” is inconsistent both with the truth and with my own rather gentle nature, I assure you.
Everyone makes “online” errors when speaking. A grammarian would not help at all, unless you want to find fault after the fact. Sometimes the listener needs to use context and meaning to repair errors made by the speaker. Making a big deal out of it interferes with the communicative purpose. Normally, people pay attention to the meaning, and overlook the errors.
Your argument that they obtain a grammarian seems to be predicated on the mistaken belief that having an on staff grammarian could somehow prevent them from making spoken errors during a live broadcast. Or, perhaps, you are suggesting that they start using a teleprompter, and that a grammarian edit it’s contents?
I posit that an on staff grammarian would fail completely in any attempt to correct the grammar of the spoken broadcasts, as what is clearly needed is a reeducation in matters related to grammar. Even this new instruction, if it came to pass would, I fear, end in a failure to improve matters. I say this because both the hosts in question are known to have attended good schools, where such instruction was ready to hand.
I would wager a kings ransom that they already have a grammarian on staff, though I doubt that the word grammarian is the total sum of their job description. I find it hard to believe that, in so well educated a group, there is not one grammar fascist on their payroll.
Further I find that those who are bothered by ass-bad grammar are usually not almost seemingly always looking for a reason to be upset, but that almost often they are. Such a person can always be counted on, to be annoy’d by the use or uses or indeed use’s of completely unnecessary s’s and apostrophe’s as well as run on sentences which are incoherhay I just got hungry. No more time to post.
So I leave you with this. Everybody knew what they meant. I sincerely. ardently, and fervently deny a world where someone heard the word effortlessly” and suddenly lost the thread of the conversation. Could I have enclosed the word “effortlessly” completely within its soft and pillowed quotation marks just now. warm and comfortable? Yes. Actually it would have been easier, because I actually had to backtrack to erase the first one. Is that grammar trolling? Maybe. But that wouldn’t have illustrated my point as easily. And I like the discordance of a paragraph that contains an oxford comma, the words ardent and fervent, and also hanging inverted commas. To paraphrase Mr. Wayne, Lil: Don’t come at me with that stupid “it DOES matter” shit when you know full well it doesn’t. Or have you forgotten to ask the most grammatically correct question ever postulated: To whom does it matter?
Oh look, I did have time to post after all.
Cheers.
“Drama-filled children”? Well, the school basically put up a theater production to trick the children into experiencing distress in order to drive home their message – and now they are surprised that they managed to distress the kids and are calling them weak? Seriously…. If you are surprised by somebody being compassionate about a fellow student dying, there is something seriously wrong with you.
Or “tirelessly”, or “untiringly”, or, perhaps, as has been suggested, “relentlessly”, or “unceasingly”, but the point is that there is INDEED effort involved and that Jordan Chariton is not deterred by that effort. To say that his work is “effortless” (or that he has been working “effortlessly”) means that he is doing his work with such ready and easy skill that it requires no great effort on his part. That is NOT what Ana meant, and good for her that she at least asked Cenk if she had chosen the right word. It is Cenk’s “bad”, on the other hand, that he confirmed Ana’s mistaken usage. You guys are just plain great, but you need a grammarian. This does matter. I hear and read fairly egregious grammatical errors from you with some frequency. To my ear, the very worst of these is the mistaken substitution of the simple past when what you really want (and what is required) is the past participle. Statements such as “I could have went”, “I should have went” are, frankly, just plain illiterate, in my view. I won’t say who is the worst offender, because I respect you all very much for your serious and committed work. But wouldn’t you rather be known, as well, for your truly competent use of your own language? Wouldn’t that improve your own journalism?
“Dear students, we have a tragic announcement to make. It seems that our star student Sally has died due to getting a forced late term abortion by her Potsmoking Democratic parents. Vote Trump to save lives. Also, the cheerleading squad needs to report to Trumps office for the daily pussy grabbing.”
Ana, I think the word you were looking for was “tirelessly.” To say it was “effortless” implies Jordan didn’t even have to try. I know Jordan is THAT GOOD, but still, he clearly put serious effort into this, as always. I know it was just a slip of the tongue of course.
@Studezilla Agreed. My point only is that I think most of the population who listens to Lil Wayne understands that he’s an ALIEN and we shouldn’t be asking him human questions. He is not a human being, and cannot be bothered with things that don’t affect him. Haha I also don’t think Lil Wayne is influencing political views, in this case he’s just losing fans.
A teenaged member of my family told me his favorite music artist was Li’l Wayne. Afterwards, I watched a few Li’l Wayne videos on YouTube. I didn’t think much of his videos because of the content. Several days later, I had a chance to tease the teenager about his rap idol by referring to him as “Li’l Brain”. The video interview shown during this segment has not changed my mind about the rapper, but he was never going to make any money from me anyway. As for the teenager, he’s chosen the thug life for himself due to issues beyond my control and most-likely unrelated to Li’l Brain.
Lil wayne was adopted by a Drug Lord when he was still a child. The drug lord started giving him shiny things, and kisses. BLING BLING https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXDoxxlgNG0 He spent the rest of his life ridiculously rich, and on drugs. Cut him some slack, there is no way he can relate to normal people anymore.
Do we cut Trump slack because his private schools and Ivy League college never taught him to relate to normal people? Regardless of how a person becomes one, an asshole is still an asshole . Being lenient or sympathetic for his “condition” is only going to encourage assholish behavior, not mitigate it.
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If trump being elected wasn’t so terrifying I’d enjoy interviews with his supporters a lot more. It’s like moronporn
I AGREE CENK. FUCK LIL WAYNE ONE OF THE SHITTEYEST RAPPERS OF ALL TIME AND HE SOUNDS LIKE HE MIGHT BE MILDLY RETARDED.
Just a comment on the Fort Laramie Treaty. Yes, the land has never been ceded BUT look at the entirety of the nonconceded territory. It encompasses all of western SD, parts of ND, MT, WY, and NE. For context think about who and what currently hold and/or use the land. It’s all of the Black Hills and Badlands in SD. That’s several national monuments and forests including Mount Rushmore, Devil’s Tower, Black Hills National Forest. It includes the cities of Deadwood, Rapid City, Sturgis, to name just a few. The Black Hills are the epicenter of South Dakota’s tourism industry. And that doesn’t even begin to think of the volumes of ranchers, farmers, business people, rural and city residents in the area.
While I agree 100% with the principle of treaty rights non-Natives have held and built on this land for over 150 years. I don’t see any court in the land adjudicating on treaty rights at Standing Rock because there’s no way to limit it to just that small area without opening the entirety of the Fort Laramie Treaty area to dispute. That’s not gonna happen.
OK, maybe that’s a conversation we should have.
Then we can move on to reparations.
(this comment is sarcasm free)
this, again http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/most-voters-havent-changed-their-minds-all-year/
nor will they
(I can’t, I voted)
Just get Adblocker plus. If you’re already a member than you aren’t hurting them by blocking ads. “Adblocker plus” I don’t get a single ad.
Where’s the fun in that?
Still with the pop up ads, not cute, not retro, just fucking annoying
Isn’t Jessica Chastin the name of a famous actor?
Where can I find the interview?
Your viewer “joshfrayer” has left a comment about a mistaken usage of the word “effortlessly” made by Ana and then confirmed by Cenk. He has entirely correctly suggested “relentlessly” as a reasonable alternative. This is my own posted reply to “joshfrayer”:
“Or ‘tirelessly’, or ‘untiringly’, or, perhaps, as has been suggested, ‘relentlessly’, or ‘unceasingly’, but the point is that there is INDEED effort involved in reporting on DAPL (especially as it is way the hell out in the Dakotas!) and that Jordan Chariton is not in the least deterred by that effort. To say that his work is ‘effortless’ (or that he has been working ‘effortlessly’) means that he is doing his work with such ready and easy skill that it requires no great effort on his part. That is clearly NOT what Ana meant, and good for her that she at least asked Cenk if she had chosen the right word. It is Cenk’s ‘bad’, on the other hand, that he confirmed Ana’s mistaken usage. You guys are just plain great, but YOU NEED A GRAMMARIAN!!! This DOES matter. I hear and read fairly egregious grammatical errors from you with some frequency. To my ear, the very worst of these is the mistaken substitution of the simple past when what you really want (and what is required) is the past participle. Statements such as ‘I could have went’, ‘I should have went’, ‘I wish I had went’, etc., are, frankly, just plain illiterate, in my view. I mean: whatever happened to the word ‘GONE’?!!! I won’t say who is the worst offender, because I respect you ALL very much for your serious, committed, and highly valuable reportage. But wouldn’t you rather be known, as well, for your truly competent use of your own language? Wouldn’t that actually improve the overall quality of your own journalism?”
Personal attacks aside, your grammar and objection are correct. I suggest they are antonyms
I said of the gang at TYT that I think they’re “great” and added “I respect you ALL very much for your serious, committed, and highly valuable reportage”. Yes, I did, a bit testily perhaps, deem a particular mistaken usage (the elimination of the “perfect” tenses) “ILLITERATE”, because that’s how it strikes me. But, the suggestion that I have somehow made some kind of “personal attack” is inconsistent both with the truth and with my own rather gentle nature, I assure you.
It may strike you as “illiterate,” of course that is not the definition of “illiterate” so who knows what you really mean to say.
You don’t get to decide if it’s a personal attack.
Everyone makes “online” errors when speaking. A grammarian would not help at all, unless you want to find fault after the fact. Sometimes the listener needs to use context and meaning to repair errors made by the speaker. Making a big deal out of it interferes with the communicative purpose. Normally, people pay attention to the meaning, and overlook the errors.
Well, I pay attention to BOTH content AND style and don’t intend to alter that approach, as I think it very sound, especially in the public sphere.
Your argument that they obtain a grammarian seems to be predicated on the mistaken belief that having an on staff grammarian could somehow prevent them from making spoken errors during a live broadcast. Or, perhaps, you are suggesting that they start using a teleprompter, and that a grammarian edit it’s contents?
I posit that an on staff grammarian would fail completely in any attempt to correct the grammar of the spoken broadcasts, as what is clearly needed is a reeducation in matters related to grammar. Even this new instruction, if it came to pass would, I fear, end in a failure to improve matters. I say this because both the hosts in question are known to have attended good schools, where such instruction was ready to hand.
I would wager a kings ransom that they already have a grammarian on staff, though I doubt that the word grammarian is the total sum of their job description. I find it hard to believe that, in so well educated a group, there is not one grammar fascist on their payroll.
Further I find that those who are bothered by ass-bad grammar are usually not almost seemingly always looking for a reason to be upset, but that almost often they are. Such a person can always be counted on, to be annoy’d by the use or uses or indeed use’s of completely unnecessary s’s and apostrophe’s as well as run on sentences which are incoherhay I just got hungry. No more time to post.
So I leave you with this. Everybody knew what they meant. I sincerely. ardently, and fervently deny a world where someone heard the word effortlessly” and suddenly lost the thread of the conversation. Could I have enclosed the word “effortlessly” completely within its soft and pillowed quotation marks just now. warm and comfortable? Yes. Actually it would have been easier, because I actually had to backtrack to erase the first one. Is that grammar trolling? Maybe. But that wouldn’t have illustrated my point as easily. And I like the discordance of a paragraph that contains an oxford comma, the words ardent and fervent, and also hanging inverted commas. To paraphrase Mr. Wayne, Lil: Don’t come at me with that stupid “it DOES matter” shit when you know full well it doesn’t. Or have you forgotten to ask the most grammatically correct question ever postulated: To whom does it matter?
Oh look, I did have time to post after all.
Cheers.
“Drama-filled children”? Well, the school basically put up a theater production to trick the children into experiencing distress in order to drive home their message – and now they are surprised that they managed to distress the kids and are calling them weak? Seriously…. If you are surprised by somebody being compassionate about a fellow student dying, there is something seriously wrong with you.
Hear, hear! (Or, in internet terms, this is a “Like”!)
No, it isn’t “effortlessly;” that’s the opposite of what you’re wanting. Try “relentlessly” instead.
Or “tirelessly”, or “untiringly”, or, perhaps, as has been suggested, “relentlessly”, or “unceasingly”, but the point is that there is INDEED effort involved and that Jordan Chariton is not deterred by that effort. To say that his work is “effortless” (or that he has been working “effortlessly”) means that he is doing his work with such ready and easy skill that it requires no great effort on his part. That is NOT what Ana meant, and good for her that she at least asked Cenk if she had chosen the right word. It is Cenk’s “bad”, on the other hand, that he confirmed Ana’s mistaken usage. You guys are just plain great, but you need a grammarian. This does matter. I hear and read fairly egregious grammatical errors from you with some frequency. To my ear, the very worst of these is the mistaken substitution of the simple past when what you really want (and what is required) is the past participle. Statements such as “I could have went”, “I should have went” are, frankly, just plain illiterate, in my view. I won’t say who is the worst offender, because I respect you all very much for your serious and committed work. But wouldn’t you rather be known, as well, for your truly competent use of your own language? Wouldn’t that improve your own journalism?
Why doesn’t Cenk mention murder with friends
*Meanwhile at Trump University*
“Dear students, we have a tragic announcement to make. It seems that our star student Sally has died due to getting a forced late term abortion by her Potsmoking Democratic parents. Vote Trump to save lives. Also, the cheerleading squad needs to report to Trumps office for the daily pussy grabbing.”
Rofl
What happened to the Post Game shows?
If you’re interested in sharing your views with North Dakota’s governor. https://www.governor.nd.gov/governor-jack-dalrymple
Where can I find the interviews? They are not on the TYTinterviews channel.
I get them on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKw8kdkYfmuNSVehGoDw8Mg
This might be a better link for TYTInterviews
https://www.youtube.com/tytinterviews
The interviews Cenk is talking about in this episode are not in the TYT interviews channel. Which was my point.
Ana, I think the word you were looking for was “tirelessly.” To say it was “effortless” implies Jordan didn’t even have to try. I know Jordan is THAT GOOD, but still, he clearly put serious effort into this, as always. I know it was just a slip of the tongue of course.
Also, fuck Lil Wayne!
@Studezilla Agreed. My point only is that I think most of the population who listens to Lil Wayne understands that he’s an ALIEN and we shouldn’t be asking him human questions. He is not a human being, and cannot be bothered with things that don’t affect him. Haha I also don’t think Lil Wayne is influencing political views, in this case he’s just losing fans.
A teenaged member of my family told me his favorite music artist was Li’l Wayne. Afterwards, I watched a few Li’l Wayne videos on YouTube. I didn’t think much of his videos because of the content. Several days later, I had a chance to tease the teenager about his rap idol by referring to him as “Li’l Brain”. The video interview shown during this segment has not changed my mind about the rapper, but he was never going to make any money from me anyway. As for the teenager, he’s chosen the thug life for himself due to issues beyond my control and most-likely unrelated to Li’l Brain.
Lil wayne was adopted by a Drug Lord when he was still a child. The drug lord started giving him shiny things, and kisses. BLING BLING https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXDoxxlgNG0 He spent the rest of his life ridiculously rich, and on drugs. Cut him some slack, there is no way he can relate to normal people anymore.
Do we cut Trump slack because his private schools and Ivy League college never taught him to relate to normal people? Regardless of how a person becomes one, an asshole is still an asshole . Being lenient or sympathetic for his “condition” is only going to encourage assholish behavior, not mitigate it.