Jimmy is right … who will be the next horrible candidate that we will have NO CHOICE but to vote Democrat?
Who Cenk?
This is the Game. We NEVER win. NEVER. It is ALWAYS the worse-case scenario.
The Clinton Foundation pay-to-play shit is WORSE than the Trumpzilla crap.
$hillary was Sec of State who made sure the Clinton Foundation Donors got what they paid for! Arms, trade deals, etc, That is a big difference from Trump’s, “Look at me! I’m a huge scam artist/douche-bag! Who can I treat horribly next? ”
BIG difference, and here we are being told to go with the program and fall in line.
It’s not about waiting & “fixing” the Democratic Party … it is beyond repair.
It is time for a new party., and the Greens is as good a place to start as any.
As for watching the TYT live stream of the debate last night, you guys need to figure out something for when TYT host and those participating in the debate are both talking at the same time. It was driving me nuts, you couldn’t hear either side. Turn up the hosts and turn down the moderate or candidates. Much love Turks! <3
The only good thing about this debate was that the commentary was done by Cenk, Jimmy Dore and Johnny I. (my nickname that I use simply because I always forget how to spell his last name). Great panel. AWFUL debate. And actually fell asleep because I was bored, I haven’t been that bored since Bush v Gore.
There is always an issue when Cenk discusses Trump Foundation; the lack of procedure of fact-checking of stories continues to harm TYT.
Trump has a lot of real issues, including with his charities, but when they are mingled with inaccuracies that go way beyond of what was happening, such reporting loses credibility and gets easily discarded by Trump supporters in its entirety:
1) Trump Foundation did charitable donations through all of those years, it was not “zero” as Ana said few days ago. An article claimed that the amount of Trump’s own money to the charity was zero since 2009, which is not same thing;
2) the fact that a foundation collects money from other charities to distribute it to other charitable causes is a standard procedure that is used by many umbrella charitable funds, including Clinton Foundation (Clintons themselves do not contribute much to charity comparing what was paid to their Foundation by the likes of the kingdom of Saudi Arabia; as we all remember, Hillary complained they were in debt for quite some time). So to use this argument against Trump foundation is incorrect;
3) foundations buying sport memorabilia and things like portraits as in case of Trump Foundation is nothing new as they are buying those things on charitable auctions and the money go to actual charitable causes. Also can not be really used against Trump (the matter of taste and humility in regards to things like portraits is a separate issue).
So what Cenk is doing with the coverage of Trump’s charity for months is a fundamental misrepresentation of what is happening, and it comes from his ignorance, which is forgiveable, and unwillingness to have any feedback on anything he reports, and, as I mentioned above, the lack of procedure of checking arguments in preparation for the show (what could make almost all of Cenk’s mistakes perfectly avoidable), which is forgiveable much less.
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Jimmy is right … who will be the next horrible candidate that we will have NO CHOICE but to vote Democrat?
Who Cenk?
This is the Game. We NEVER win. NEVER. It is ALWAYS the worse-case scenario.
The Clinton Foundation pay-to-play shit is WORSE than the Trumpzilla crap.
$hillary was Sec of State who made sure the Clinton Foundation Donors got what they paid for! Arms, trade deals, etc, That is a big difference from Trump’s, “Look at me! I’m a huge scam artist/douche-bag! Who can I treat horribly next? ”
BIG difference, and here we are being told to go with the program and fall in line.
It’s not about waiting & “fixing” the Democratic Party … it is beyond repair.
It is time for a new party., and the Greens is as good a place to start as any.
As for watching the TYT live stream of the debate last night, you guys need to figure out something for when TYT host and those participating in the debate are both talking at the same time. It was driving me nuts, you couldn’t hear either side. Turn up the hosts and turn down the moderate or candidates. Much love Turks! <3
Dayum! Preach Jimmy!
The only good thing about this debate was that the commentary was done by Cenk, Jimmy Dore and Johnny I. (my nickname that I use simply because I always forget how to spell his last name). Great panel. AWFUL debate. And actually fell asleep because I was bored, I haven’t been that bored since Bush v Gore.
Where’s the third part / post-game?
There is always an issue when Cenk discusses Trump Foundation; the lack of procedure of fact-checking of stories continues to harm TYT.
Trump has a lot of real issues, including with his charities, but when they are mingled with inaccuracies that go way beyond of what was happening, such reporting loses credibility and gets easily discarded by Trump supporters in its entirety:
1) Trump Foundation did charitable donations through all of those years, it was not “zero” as Ana said few days ago. An article claimed that the amount of Trump’s own money to the charity was zero since 2009, which is not same thing;
2) the fact that a foundation collects money from other charities to distribute it to other charitable causes is a standard procedure that is used by many umbrella charitable funds, including Clinton Foundation (Clintons themselves do not contribute much to charity comparing what was paid to their Foundation by the likes of the kingdom of Saudi Arabia; as we all remember, Hillary complained they were in debt for quite some time). So to use this argument against Trump foundation is incorrect;
3) foundations buying sport memorabilia and things like portraits as in case of Trump Foundation is nothing new as they are buying those things on charitable auctions and the money go to actual charitable causes. Also can not be really used against Trump (the matter of taste and humility in regards to things like portraits is a separate issue).
So what Cenk is doing with the coverage of Trump’s charity for months is a fundamental misrepresentation of what is happening, and it comes from his ignorance, which is forgiveable, and unwillingness to have any feedback on anything he reports, and, as I mentioned above, the lack of procedure of checking arguments in preparation for the show (what could make almost all of Cenk’s mistakes perfectly avoidable), which is forgiveable much less.
Why to give ammunition to Trump supporters?
Kaine’s “You’re hired vs. You’re fired” line was so cringeworthy. Totally reminiscent of Hillary’s “Trumped up – Trickle down” line.
The Clinton camp really needs to cut out these cheeky one-liners, they’re just horrible and make them look silly.