The Young Turks September 18, 2015 Hour 1

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Cenk, John, and Jimmy hosting. Donald Trump held a townhall event yesterday where a supporter called Obama a Muslim and not an American. Video of the interaction where Trump let the hateful rhetoric slide. Video of John McCain in 2008 rejecting supporters’ claims that Obama is a scary Muslim. Trump’s spox blamed the media for trying to focus the attention on Obama, and that the real story is his war on Christianity. Talk about how Trump’s supporters words are simple fascism. When asked about the situation, Trump’s spokesperson said, “I don’t speak for Mr. Trump.” Videos of the angry response to Trump allowing the supporter to make the claims. Chris Christie said that he would correct a supporter on the matter before answering the question. Hillary Clinton called it hateful rhetoric that should’ve been repudiated.

Scott Walker rushed to Frank Luntz’ house after his lackluster debate to explain himself to donor bundlers that have given him millions of dollars. The bundlers spoke of support they still have for Walker, calling him a product. Brazil’s courts have outlawed corporations from donating to candidates. Carly Fiorina has overtaken Trump in New Hampshire.

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“When Do We Get Rid of the Muslims?” Donald Trump: “We’re Going to be Looking at a Lot of Different Things.”
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2015/09/when-do-we-get-rid-muslims

Scott Walker tries to reassure nervous donors
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/254146-scott-walker-tries-to-reassure-nervous-donors

Brazil bans corporations from political donations amid corruption scandal
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/18/brazilian-supreme-court-bans-corporate-donations-political-candidates-parties

Christie Slams Trump’s Handling of Obama-Muslim Question: I Wouldn’t Have Permitted That
http://www.mediaite.com/online/christie-slams-trumps-handling-of-obama-muslim-question-i-wouldnt-have-permitted-that/

Comments

  1. It wasn’t all Donald Trump at all, it was 1/3rd Trump, 1/3rd on all other candidates stances in the face of “Obama is Muslim” and Islamophobia which was a tangent, and 1/3rd on money in politics which didn’t even reference Trump. Certainly interested in other stories like Cornel West endorsing Sanders, but people are too hyperbolic claiming this hour 1 was all Trump.

  2. Jimmy, Chris Matthews said on Real Time that they covered Trump so much so they can be there when he implodes. They have finally done their job by showing America who the Trump supporters are. Regardless, fuck MSNBC.

  3. “Replace Muslims with any other group and it’s atrocious” -Cenk Uygur.

    The clearly bigoted man in the video said something along the lines of “There’s a problem with these muslims, they have these training camps, when are we going to get rid of them?’

    Cenk then labels all criticism of islam as racist by indicating that the entire other side is arguing to ‘get rid of all muslims’, talk about extrapolation!

    But I get a little frustrated at their lack of consistent logic, they don’t have to stoop to such low arguments.

    “Replace Muslim with any other group and say get rid of them and it’s heinous’ WELL I would argue it’s already heinous but your point is not convincing. I can replace MANY other groups with Muslims and have it be much more accepted. For example, “There’s a problem with these Nazi’s, they have all these concentration camps, when are we going to get rid of them” or to use Cenk’s words, “When are we going to get rid of these Nazi’s?” Or you can use almost any negative term: Sexist, Racist, Sadist, Masochist, or Death Cult, Criminal, Politician, Banker, Traitor Etc Etc.

    Many label these qualities on religion in general, completely separate from Islam. The thing I think is ironic about anti-islam from christians is that they can find absurdity in certain peoples beliefs but not their own.

    1. There’s a problem with uneducated American bigots who want to discriminate against Muslims. Their short-sighted and ignorant opinions create strife, distrust and incite violence instead of fostering community. Let’s get rid of them.

      1. That’s true, doesn’t mean there isn’t a problem with Islam in their treatment of women, gays, apostates, slaves etc. I’m fighting for the women and children who are hostages in Muslim societies who will be tortured and killed if they speak against the faith. I think that is a bigger issue than muslim tolerance in the West. Do Bigots exist on both side? yes. Should we ignore them? no. Should we conflate real criticism of islam with radical calls to violently expel them? no. Should we have conversations without resorting to mischaracterizations? yes. 50:55 Dave Rubin really redeemed himself with this interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQqxlzHJrU0

        1. Thanks for reminding me how much I hate Dave Rubin. I’m so glad that idiot is no longer associated with TYT. That interview was embarrassing.

          DAVE: “Now, Sam, you’re great and handsome and wonderful and so clearly not a bigot”.
          SAM: “Thank you Dave, it’s so painful for me to have suffer these totally unfounded attacks on my bigotry, but now let me say that we should stop anyone who looks…you know… like one of ‘THEM” at the airport, you know how they look, the bad guys, the mooooooslims? We know who they are. We’re smart.”

          on 9/11, the hijackers were clean-shaven, light-skinned and dressed in business clothes. In countries with suicide bombers in the past (yes, these have existed prior to the big bad evil mooslims), women, children, of all different races and ethnicities have been forced to become the bomber by holding members of family and whatnot, and would totally get right past your idiotic racist, ineffective, airport security theater nonsense.

          SAM: “No, I didn’t know that, because I’m an idiot who is riding the wave of anti-Islamic hysteria to make a name for myself”
          DAVE:“Oh, hey me too. Although mine is more Israel focused than America. i can’t believe people got all bent out of shape for killing a few thousand civilians. Don’t they know they were just Muslim scum?”
          SAM: I know, right? These people. They value human life, even when its Muslim life. How crazy is that.

          1. Still doesn’t mean there isn’t a problem with Islam in their treatment of women, gays, apostates, slaves etc. I’m fighting for the women and children who are hostages in Muslim societies who will be tortured and killed if they speak against the faith. I think that is a bigger issue than muslim tolerance in the West. Do Bigots exist on both side? yes. Should we ignore them? no. Should we conflate real criticism of islam with radical calls to violently expel them? no. Should we have conversations without resorting to mischaracterizations? yes.

  4. At the end of the show, Cenk checked his iPad & announced that Hump was loosing to Fiorina in N.H. It’s Sun. morning & none of the on-line news sites have reported this. Was this wihful thinking in Cenk’s par?

  5. All atheist power panel? I am starting to wonder if TYT would not hire someone if they believed in God. You are not better or smarter, if you are an atheist. But, you are no less moral or good if you are an atheist.. Wish TYT would get over themselves about that. It makes no difference.

    1. If you believe the world is 5000 years old and that everything is controlled by an invisible being that wouldn’t wear saggy pants, then you are not that bright and have no business being on TYT. TYT is the anti Fox news. Would Fox News hire an outspoken atheist?

  6. Cenk you left islam. so go to a islamic country and tell muslims about it. Your’e not gone do it are you. So stop with the ” muslims are not dangerous” bullshit.

        1. The truth that Cenk will never admit is that he could never criticize Islam in a theocracy and get away with it. Islam is not tolerant. Liberalism is tolerance..But to be a tolerant of intolerance is a liberal failing That’s the difference between religions and how seriously people actually hold their religious beliefs (especially in deserts where they have nothing else to do)

          1. Cenk will, can and has admitted that. Cenk couldn’t criticize dear leader in North Korea either. Are they Muslim too? No. Totalitarian states make totalitarian rules. If you’re simply against totalitarianism, I don’t think anyone disagrees with you. Why would the laws in some totalitarian state change Cenk’s argument?

            He lives in the US, where he can criticize Islam and does. He also knows that most Muslims are not inherently dangerous, because he knows them as people not a scare tactic buzzword. So criticisms of “Islam” are not just wrong factually, but contribute to the narrative used by the US empire to wage war, and help to divide the population internally when an uneducated, easily frightened people start to go on mob witch hunts of innocent people guilty by association.

            Islam is neither tolerant or intolerant. It’s a religion, which means it has about as many interpretations as it has followers, like any religion. What it also has is a violent colonial history of resource extraction in many Muslim dominant nations that lead to social fracture, confusion and economic and political chaos. When the carefully cultivated identity with the state is eroded, that leaves tribalism and religious identity as what’s left. When the US empire falls, you will see the same thing happen here, as “American” is turned into “Texan” or “Southern Baptist” and those identities become the prominent ones.

              1. That’s fine. You’ve never provided a single point that was interesting or challenging or offered any data or understanding of history, so why would I care if you didn’t throw your temper tantrum and start making whiny comments after all my posts, even the ones that have nothing to do with your support for anti-Muslims bigotry. Why would I miss that?

            1. Still doesn’t mean there isn’t a problem with Islam in their treatment of women, gays, apostates, slaves etc. I’m fighting for the women and children who are hostages in Muslim societies who will be tortured and killed if they speak against the faith. I think that is a bigger issue than muslim tolerance in the West. Do Bigots exist on both side? yes. Should we ignore them? no. Should we conflate real criticism of islam with radical calls to violently expel them? no. Should we have conversations without resorting to mischaracterizations? yes.

  7. Bernie Sanders has a problem appealing to black voters. About a week ago, Cornel West, a prominent black voice in the political world, a big critique of Barack Obama endorsed him and has been making speeches on his behalf. I’m sure TYT will cover that…but whoops…breaking news…Donald Trump just said something racist again, better dedicate the whole hour to that.

  8. TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

    Is Cenk applying for a job at MSNBC again? Is the TYT news hour just his demo reel? They cover Trump every minute of every day now. I hope they’re watching. I think he has a real shot.

    1. sometimes I get sick of all the Trump coverage, but he is starting to be scary and not funny. I really think he will be another Hitler if he gets elected. I want Trump gone so bad. ppl need to realize this guy is not a comedian. Cenk is right, he is a racist, fascist

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