John Iadarola and Michael Shure host TYT. The Kansas Senate race and the new development that they’ve allowed a candidate dropout’s name to be taken off of the ballot on the Democratic side is discussed. This will eliminate wasted Democratic votes on a vacant candidate, taking them away from the replacement. ISIS has released another video that has their British reporter/hostage speaking from a desk about how Western powers should cooperate with their demands. The FBI has apparently thwarted an ISIS plan to carry out a terror plot in Australia. The House has voted to support Obama’s plan to provide training and support to Syrian rebels of the Free Syrian Army to fight ISIS. Rand Paul gives a promising speech on the matter, but it may later prove to be contradictory given his presidential aspirations. In the wake of the Peterson child abuse situation, Sean Hannity took to his television and radio show to defend corporal punishment. He claims he was beaten with a belt and punched in the face by his father, and that he turned out fine in a video. When his panel disagreed, he pulled out his belt and illustrated how it’s done. On his radio show, Hannity linked the Peterson punishment to schools not allowing parents to teach their kids that being gay isn’t normal. After an Atheist airman in the US Air Force refused to repeat the line, “So Help Me God” and fought and won to have the rule changed, Pat Robertson went on a tirade against the “Little Jewish Radical” that has pushed them to this end. He also lamented the weakness of the Air Force in being terrorized by one guy. John reads the impressive military credentials of the man Robertson attacked. A Nevada woman is suing Cliven Bundy after crashing her car into one of his cows that made it on to the road due to faulty fences around his ranch. Bundy claims that it is the government’s fault for not fortifying his fences, and that he has the right to sue her for the loss of his cow that she hit. John asks if Scotland will have their freedom tomorrow morning. He says yes, but Shure says no.
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Sean Hannity worries the Adrian Peterson case will prevent parents from teaching kids that “being gay is not normal”
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Comments
Nothing on Debbie Wasserman Schultz? I was looking forward all day to hearing Cenk’s take on that. I would have accepted Michael Shure’s take. Are they saving it for some reason?
Can’t BELIEVE that I just read this entire ‘comments’ section.
Well, that’s a little hunk of time I’ve wasted.
No excuses. My OWN damn fault~!
Wow! I was thinking the exact same thing! My mind is a bit mushy now.
Vapre is a stupid cunt. That is all.
Hahah, aww.
I always enjoy Michael and John’s appearances, and would have enjoyed 2 hours of first hour stories with this duo. I like the cut of their jib.
-facepalm- Okay, I get it, from some Chris Matthews perspective, Paul had a ‘good’ speech in that it was able to fool a lot of people and not take any position. Only problem is, I don’t give a shit. I don’t watch TYT to hear that a speech that does a classic kabuki dance around any type of solid, dependable language is a “good” speech. That’s for Washington insiders, Politico, and whoever else follows politics in the same way one would watch a football season.
Sorry if that sounded harsh, I was just waiting for someone to point out “hey, doesn’t that make him full of crap?” But Shore almost sounded sorta in admiration of his savvy.
Pat Robertson is a dork. It bugs me when religious ppl don’t realize that the separation of church and state helps them. Once a religion starts trying to rule, it becomes corrupted and its teaching suffer. Keep the two separate and its good for everyone.
Yes there was a real threat in Australia, yes the timing was convenient in regards to the passing of unpopular counter terrorism laws, yes it is a detraction from the failed policy of the Abbott government. NO waltzing Matilda is not out national song and it wasn’t written by slim dusty. Yes Joe Hockey is an unpopular but very senior twat.
But now you must tell us what your national anthem is..
as usual, cenk never told us he was leaving, these guys aren’t telling us where he is, and he didn’t mention it while leaving yesterday to get us to watch the show without us wanting to.
i bet he is on some crusade to (yet again) grow his business, and tomorrow we’ll spend half an hour on twitter feeds to help trend tytlive and the squarespace competition and he’ll probably take tomorrow off too.
cenk, buddy, less time growing your business, and mor etime on your paying members please.
you don’t need to overclock your business. if it has a certain earning capacity, don’t try to overclock it, don’t be greedy, make do with what it gets/affords you. you’ll make more when and if it grows, now when you squeeze the dead lemon any harder.
*not when you squeeze the dead lemon any harder
Ease down Eaxx…. don’t overclock it, eaxx… Don’t be greedy… Make do with what your body afforded you…. You’ll make it grow …oh yes…make it grow eaxx… Squeeze your lemon, eaxx.. Yes….Squeeze it until the juice….the juice. OH!! OH!! YES, CENK!!! oooooohhh….. The greedy juice…. Oh I overclocked it all over my leg…. Yes, eaxx. Oh…whew… Is your lemon limp and dead now too? Eaxx? Honey?
Dude. EAXX. You really need to look into seeing professional help, man.
LOL – are you sure I need professional help?
Yes…. Yes I am sure.
Vapre, you are fucking twat. STFU until you have something to say. Eaxx, great points, as usual. WTF Cenk.
I think yall are confused. “The Young Turks with Cenk Uygur” was the show on Current. “The Young Turks” have many different hosts. Deal with it.
I signed up because cenk promised to be on every day, i also signed up because i thought the post games were an hour long, as cenk says, they used to do a 3 hour show. now the post games are sometimes 4 minutes long, tho recently they’ve been 10-15 minutes, but not one hour.
macberg, how ’bout we agree to disagree? as much as i like the other guys as people, i wouldn’t pay to watch them, i wouldn’t watch them if it was for free – nothing personal, i watch cenk for the same reasons i watch bill maher, comedic relief and (usually, not always) logical.
Vapre, nice job trying to gay shame a person ON A PROGREESIVE SITE ! To a progressive , insinuating that he is gay is as hurtful as insinuating he is a breather of air, a drinker of water, an eater of food. You think that was a joke ? do you think that comment insulted someone ? Sadly im hetro, so I cant think that way, but I WISH I could make my greedy juices overclock all over my leg looking at cenk (although ONLY cenk stimulates— my thoughts and ONLY cenk gives me a big—epiphany)
That’s not the case unless you assume that being gay is bad. Saying that eaxx seems to have a gay boner for Cenk is only pointing out the obvious.
i wish i was gay, it’d be so much easier to get laid lol.
Dude. You are so fucking annoying. Cent doesn’t owe you a god damn explanation. You are not paying for Cenk to be your bitch. You are paying to help support a developing network.
You don’t now what he is paying for. You may like the other TYT shows, but I don’t. They are 100% uninteresting to me. I pay to watch the first hour. So fuck you, fuck Cenk, and fuck anyone who thinks TYT is a goddamn charity and not a business offering a service, a service that IS NOT DELIVERED without Cenk. So WTF am I paying for?
The service is not delivered without Cenk? Well that’s like, your opinion, man. To my knowledge no one at TYT has ever said that Cenk must host the first hour, so the service was delivered (at least in this regard…).
I do however agree that Cenk is the best host for the first hour, but I also really appreciate that they mix it up.
people pay for different reasons, but when people pay to see cenk, they must realize that they are alienating their audience when he doesn’t show up.
i was surprised tho, that he showed up on friday. i totally expected he probably had an engagement on thursday and would take friday off as well to have a long weekend for himself, but to cenk’s credit, he didn’t! i really was surprised, i wrote the above thinking he was going to take 2 days off. it seems as tho he at least tries, which is good.
Is cenk the only reason you watch this show? Not for the news, or the insight? Dude you have problems. The young turks is a business and in a capitalist society businesses are supposed to grow. It’s important. Also what if cenk was just sick today or injured himself and these guys don’t want to spread his personal shit on air? Ever think that maybe some people have lives outside of their job? Quit bitching and move along
yeah, nice try, but if cenk was sick, they would have said so. they only never say so when it’s cenk taking a holiday or when it’s him doing something self-satisfying.
if i wanted news bland, dry flavorless news, i’d watch DeemocracyNow – really good at news, but dry as hell and puts me to sleep. so yeah, i watch tyt ONLY because of cenk, there is no one else or nothing else that would keep me loyal to tyt other than that, i’m sorry to say. and there are many like me.
My point is, there is only so much you should make your audience suffer in order to make your business grow more, once you pass a particular limit, it’s greed, not growth, and you alienate the audience you’ve already acquired – your base, so to speak.
Is it that hard to understand? Yes, we watch only because of Cenk. Ana, Johnny, all those clowns are UNINTERESTING. I like Jimmy Dore, but he is missing too.
Eaxx, they don’t deserve $10 a month for this shit. Send me an email, we’ll share an account. tekkenking69@yahoo.com
Mooseman2013 — Yes. Eaxx totally lost his/her mental nuts-n-bolts when Cenk went on Vacation to Turkey a while back… Eaxx has a serious bro-crush on Cenk. To eaxx, Cenk == TYT !! Any attempt at substitution will be punished, through hist creepy Cenk fetish posts under this comments board.
Dude, you have too much hate inside you. Just chill out.
I was hoping that bringing this to the attention of the staff would get our comments to his attention and perhaps they’ll stop trying to give us what we never paid for. When he went on vacation I only spoke once in response to other peoples comments.
So, when you purchase a beer from the store, and you end up getting water inside the beer cans and there is no beer, I’m going to suggest you deal with it and get over it, hey – every time you buy a 6-pack of beer, there’s a 10-20% chance it may be full of water (100% water) and you are not allowed to get pissed off at that.
What did you say? You’d return it? No, i’m sorry, you’re not allowed to return it, they don’t do refunds, and you’re not allowed to complain about it, because if you do, then you’re an alcoholic who wants beer every time he buys beer (what on earth were you thinking??)…
Of course you will get water 20% of the time you buy beer, you alcoholic! Geezus!
Your analogy doesn’t hold water, or beer. Cenk is the host of the show for both hours far more than 20% the time. Put your beer down, and realize that you purchase a $10 a month subscription to the *TYT NETWORK*. Not a guaranteed TYT show every weekday with ONLY Cenk’s political commentary.
Your membership agreement says nothing about Cenk Uyger promising his appearance on 100% of The Young Turks. The subscription is for access to all TYT shows, including the main show, “The Young Turks”. Nowhere does it say that “Cenk Uyger will never go on vacation, he will never get sick, nor will his wife and children ever get sick. If any such event does occur – TYT Network Staff will immediately notify all members, particularly EAXX, of the details of Cenk’s personal life, and the exact date of Cenk’s return to deliver EAXX’s political commentary.”
EAXX, you must never have worked in a professional environment. In the real world, work is a fluid/dynamic environment. Cenk has a life, a wife, kids, parents. He takes vacation, has business commitments, gets sick, his wife and kids get sick,etc… I’m only continuing to pound on your dumb comments because you don’t seem to get it.: Cenk doesn’t exist to make you happy. He didn’t promise *YOU* anything other than a TYT *SHOW* (not a “CENK SHOW”) every weekday outside of holidays.
In case you were going to ‘correct me’ on the “20%”
**Your analogy doesn’t hold water, or beer. Cenk is the host of the show for both hours far more than ***80%*** the time.
Why are you attacking this guy for his preferences? You like the whole channel, we don’t. Fuck off.
Before we signed up, Cenk was on every day, it doesn’t matter what the terms of service say, that still is an expectation, and our expectations aren’t being met when he takes days off to go to yet another television event conference.
Of course he can take vacation and days off when life demands, no problem with that. It’s when he takes time off to grow his business, and turns half the show into an advertisement for tytlive or others etc, also when the show goes from 3 hours to one and a half hours, and all these types of things, when they add up, they start bothering people.
So i only voice these sometimes in the hopes that admin is listening, and they can communicate this feedback up to cenk, and maybe he’ll be a bit more thoughtful of his audience.
just recently, the person named irc477 (forget the number part of their username) quit their membership because of the accumulating issues.
As usual, *eaxx* never told us eaxx was coming back, never told us where he went,
I bet eaxx is now on another tirade about how he/(she?) only wants to see Cenk, and only Cenk, and that is the ONLY acceptable TYT member to deliver the *TYT* show. I bet eaxx loves Cenk… I’m talking deep love…. very long, hard, glistening, deep love for Cenk. Don’t overclock your comment threads while Cenk is away, eaxx. If you’re love for Cenk has a certain load capacity, just let it blow and let it unload all over this comment page… Ooooh. Yeah.
If you spend half an hour tomorrow on Cenk twitter feeds – retweeting his tweets and being overly obsessed about Cenk’s activities and online posts, then I think you need to seek professional help, eaxx.
I don’t follow his twitter, I just feel like I’m being ripped off every time he does a cut and run. I pay to watch CENK (yes, cenk) because i like his analysis style and sense of humor – so when he is not on, there is no point watching.
When there is no point watching, I realize that 10% – 20% of what we pay to watch we don’t get, then on top of all the advertising they do in the show (live twitter readouts to hit trending targets, square space promotion segments every Friday)… you really feel like you’re being taken for a ride – and all of this because they are not satisfied with the growth rate they are experiencing, so we have to pay for his growth.
I’m surprised that doesn’t bother you.
>I don’t follow his twitter,
“and tomorrow we’ll spend half an hour on twitter feeds to help trend tytlive and”
Q: So, why pretend that you do?
>I pay to watch CENK (yes, cenk) because i like his analysis style and sense of humor – so when he is not on, there is no point watching
That’s great that you like his style. But “Cenk” DOES NOT EQUAL “TYT”. TYT is a network. Your $10 a month gets you a subscription to TYT network, just like $10 a month gets you a subscription to HBO. Bitching about Cenk not being on is like saying “I pay for MSNBC in order to watch Rachael Maddow because I like her commentary…” – so when she’s not on for a couple days (and EVEN WORSE(!), *THEY* didn’t tell me WHY!!! ) , then my panties get all wadded up, and I want my .50 cents back!! I’ll go further and even pretend that I get mad when Cenk IS on and they do those poopy square space promos… and twitter something-or-other.. I’m being *taken for a ride*, darn-it!!! “
I don’t think you understood the twitter thing, I’ll explain better. Every time they come from a break, they read these silly twitter comments from people so that these people type more twitter comments with the tytlive hashtag. When the tytlive hashtag gets used, the hashtag starts trending in areas where it is used often. When it is trending, it is seen by other people who don’t know about tyt, and so they look into it, and it is supposed to increase promotion for the tyt network, all good – however, they spend about 10 minutes a day on this promotion, taking from our news time. Get me?
If this was it, it’d be all good, but when you consider it all together with all the other stuff they do, it gets to a point where it just becomes very annoying.
Like i said, (if you read my other message)… next time you buy a 6-pack of beer and get 100% water, you can’t complain, you can’t take it back, and if you complain about it i will call you an alcoholic, and you must accept that this will happen 10-20% of the time. tough luck.
“next time you buy a 6-pack of beer and get 100% water,”
If you buy a six pack of beer that is labeled “6.5% ABV” and you get something that is 100% water, then sure – you can take the beer back – because it would be MISLABELED! I don’t think the store clerk would call you an “alcoholic” – that doesn’t make sense. The store (which doesn’t manufacture the beer, which is why your analogy is an utter failure) would simply refund your money for a defective product.
However, your subscription to TYT cannot be considered a defective product (e.g., a six pack of water being sold a 6.5% ABV Beer) because the agreement between you [the purchaser] and TYT Network [the seller] does not specify a TYT show content with 100% ABV “CENK”. The subscription agreement is that there will be content provided at regular intervals, typically weekdays with the exception of major holidays. You seem to have an almost dogmatic opposition to accepting this fact. Did someone promise you that Cenk *WOULD* be presenting content on the main show 255 days per year??? (255 shows graciously allows for 5 ‘Cenk’ holidays [wow, thanks eaxx!] – Cenk).
Sorry dude, but an expectation is an expectation. if he quit doing the show, i would cancel my subscription. if he isn’t going to do the show on certain days, we want PRE-NOTICE of it so we can pause or cancel our membership, and resume it when he comes back.
that simple. but they never give pre-notice because they know many people pause or cancel their memberships until he is schedules to come back. alternatively, they can refund our money for days off, but they don’t. and it’s not just me, there are several others that i know of who pause and resume their membership when cenk leaves and comes back.
“however, they spend about 10 minutes a day on this promotion, taking from our news time. Get me?”
No, eaxx, I don’t “get you”. I’m actually fairly convinced at this point that you’ve either been skipping your meds for a significant period of time, or are undiagnosed with a problem. You have two oddly conflicting points you are making:
1) You are commenting here on the TYT comments section to try to influence TYT members, ( and by extension, Cenk ) that Cenk needs to have a better attendance record and/or at least give refunds for days he was not a host.
2) At the same time, you bitch about Cenk and Ana reading twitter comments relating to the show as well as stories that they just read. While they certainly didn’t invent the concept of communicating with a live audience via twitter, I can’t believe that you of all people find a major problem with it. They are allowing their viewers to communicate and make comments with them real-time. Does it have a cross-promotional aspect to it? Sure. Does every TV show that reads twitter feeds, yes. Does it allow you, (eaxx), the possibility to ask where Cenk is, voice your concern, etc?? Yep. Yet, you bitch that it takes away “10 mins per show” (which is completely BS and exaggerated. It’s usually ~ 1 or 2 mins – tops)
Word.
Vapre, it’s 1-2 minutes for each reading. over the several breaks, it’s more than 5 mins, sometimes 10 mins. then there is a squarespace promotions on fridays. individually i don’t really have a problem with any of it, I have a problem only when taking the entirety of things into account at once, hence the comment about squeezing a dead lemon.
I apologize if this has upset you, i didn’t think voicing this stuff could be anything other that constructive criticism. But for some reason it has really upset you.
Also, when i give feedback on stories, I usually call them out if they are making a disingenuous argument, inflating the truth or setting up the story to fit their narrative. This does not contradict the fact that I want Cenk to do the show. In fact, most time I don’t call them out for disingenuous arguments, only sometimes.
In addition, part of the reason why I would do logical-corrections of their stories is in the hopes that they are more honest with us and in the hopes that they will do less or no disingenuous commentary in the future. Second part, i feel the need to correct them sometimes emotionally (yes, the need is emotional, but the correction is logical) because i see it as unfair to the rest of us.
rachel maddow never gets to take this much time off, when cenk was on tv, his producers would never let him take this much time off. he can do it now because he has no problem shafting his viewers and then acting like he doesn’t.
You’re starting to sound like a troll.
Are you kidding? When he was on MSNBC his contract most certainly said he couldn’t miss any shows unless he was sick or on vacation (which was probably regulated). With you/us he doesn’t have that kind of contract. Hence he can be away or off camera all he wants and do all the other things he does.. like running the damn business that is TYT.
How about this? If he can take off heaps of time, then we should have the right to complain about it?
However, given that it has upset you and Vapre so much, next time he disappears without notice and we have no idea how long to pause and memberships for, I will not say anything.
Would that be ok by you?
Correction: * no idea how long to pause OUR memberships for,…
Both of these fan boys are cunts. Fuck em both. Pay my $10 and then you can tell me how to feel about it.
FINAL WORD:
Last time Vapre beat on me for saying something negative but true about Ana, so i hear you with the “fan Boy” theory. It reminds me of the obama bots, when you look up to someone so much that you think they can do no wrong.
Now, when their excessive loyalty to these people are questioned, when something negative about them comes into focus, the fan boys can’t handle it because they would pretty much have to accept that they are looking up to someone & something that is flawed.
And here is what that comes to… if they are looking up to someone who is flawed, then they almost have to admit to themselves that they were _STUPID_ enough to look up to them.
And this is the kicker! I don’t think it means the fan boy is stupid, but this is how we as humans internalize things… that if we are looking up to someone that is flawed, then we must be flawed to have picked the wrong person to look up to.
Especially when your tie to these people are based on ideological issues, then this feeling is amplified even more, as they are based on core/fundamental/emotionally driven issues.
So, every time the person being idealized is attacked, the fan boy hearing the attack internalizes it and takes it as an attack on themselves, i.e.: I am stupid for idealizing a person & therefore an ideology that must be wrong. Of course, this isn’t true, but that’s how it is internalized.
We as humans, when we realize this, need to keep things in check… it’s not easy to realize this, and i probably did so only in the last few years.
Anyone who’s reading this, please take this “self-check” into consideration, for your own benefit.
I agree with eaxxx. Especially when they replace him with such vanilla hosts. Michal Shure + Johnny Pie is a terrible combination.
How dare you expect what you were paying for.
Same here. I like Cenks anchoring style and commentary. That’s the main reason, why i signed up. So every time he’s not there it’s dissapointing to say the the least. Simple as that.
LOL – i totally agree, as nice a person as Michael Shure is, he is not made for TV, and I start daydreaming whenever he start talking, it’s hard to stay focused.
If they are not going to have Cenk on, they should always make sure Jimmy Doore is (at least) doing the second hour.