John and Ana hosting. Bill Nye debated Ken Ham last night about creationism vs evolution. A reporter had some creationism believers from the audience write up a sentence or two of what they want to say to believers in evolution.
More pictures of creationists holding up posters with their short messages to evolutionists. Video of Pat Robertson talking about how Ken Ham is presenting their argument in a stupid manner by claiming that the Earth is only 6000 years old. The CBO’s report on the costs associated with ObamaCare has Republicans falling all over themselves to paint the picture that its a disaster. The blatantly misread and spun the portion about how it will cost 2.5 million jobs by 2024. Video of Paul Ryan and the CBO Director clarifying that it will not actually cost 2.5 million jobs. John reads several instances of Republicans claiming to want citizens to be free of their employers and their healthcare choices. The CBO also had bad news for the GOP’s assertion that the risk corridor provision is a bailout that needs to be repealed. If it’s taken out, it will cost us $8 billion on the deficit. After Sen Hatch praised the CBO on the false employment information they spun, he bashed the same CBO for their claims on the risk corridor provision.
More fallout from O’Reilly’s Super Bowl interview with President Obama. WaPo’s Dana Milbank wrote an article outlining his assertion that Bill’s interview was hostile. Audio of O’Reilly responding angrily to Milbank’s article on Hugh Hewitt’s show. Gun lobbyist Larry Pratt spoke with Selwyn Duke about how Africans from Africa are happy people that need to teach surly African Americans how to live life. Republican lawmakers are proposing to eliminate the tax on Olympic athletes that receive money for winning a gold, silver, or bronze medal.
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I wish Ana would check her fact before calling out other people on their ignorance, she sounds like such a dumbass when she fails to do so. Egypt actually *is* in the Middle East; it’s an informal cultural region, not exclusively Asian: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Middle_East_(orthographic_projection).svg
Woah dude, calm your tits. First: its technically on a land bridge and therefore super ambiguous as to which continent it is on. Second, if you categorize continents by their mobility (i.e. which continental plate they are located on), due to the fact that these geographical locations will stay near one another; then yes, Egypt IS in Africa (it is on the “African Plate” which contains the whole continent of Africa). Therefore Ana was correct, and you need to not use Wiki as a main source. Its a good beginning, not a good primary source. Also, if you don’t want to believe way of thinking you could also google “what continent is Egypt on?” and Google will answer Africa (its before any links, at the top).
I’m a little disappointed that John seems to think that being pragmatic, reasonable, and open-minded (as shown in the Pat Robertson Terrorsaurus Rex clip) means you can’t possibly be religious. It’s sooo sad to see the lunatic dogmatic naysayers are seen as the default standard, and when you hear a guy say “Well, obviously the Earth is more than 6,000 years old”, your first reaction is “Well you can’t be religious, then!”
he can be selectively religious he just cant believe the bible is the word of god. and when you pick and choose what parts of a religion to follow you are just using it to justify your own personal beliefs rather than using it as a way to live.
Reasonable people can be religious but that doesn’t mean their decisions are always reasonable. Reasonable people will sometimes make irrational decisions and the decision to ignore the evidence supporting evolution is a common irrational decision for religious people. There are scientists out there (although a few) who don’t believe that evolution has occurred and that would be one of their irrational beliefs, most likely encouraged by their religious beliefs.
No one who’s religious actually believes that all of the Bible is how we should live our lives. Most religious people will agree that slavery is wrong, that eating pork is okay, and that you can shave your sideburns if you want…even though the bible disagrees with all those points. John is incorrect to assume that religious people actually take the Bible literally, even when they say they do. Most religious people don’t actually read the bible in its entirety, which is why they affirm complete allegiance to it…if that makes any sense.
no tax on Olympian’s prize money? so what about people who become world champion in a sport that isn’t an Olympic sport? seems unfair to them, no? btw do those people get this prize money to start with? No. What about someone who breaks a record in the Guinness Book of World records? ….blablabla …. before you know it everyone who wins any prize money in a sport is tax exempt
pay your taxes, doing/playing professional sports is hard, but so is working 45 years in a factory
Interestingly for someone who understands so little about the moon during his accusations of lying and zealotry Mr O’Reilly in fact touched the lunar surface with his fucking nose.
I agree that some debates may appear useless, but I see that the main reason of these debates are to spark conversation. It’s not going to sway the staunchest of religious zealots, but it will certainly influence some less radical religious people and hopefully get them to question themselves. So I cannot agree that these debates are useless. That’s the same as saying that every religious person is a fundamentalist nut.
After being on the fence about the usefulness of debating creationism in public forums, I’ve decided it would be better to debate why evidence is a better basis for a claim than religion is…and what’s the difference between between good and better evidence.
Our tax system supports the services we need as a society and it is based (theoretically) on ability to pay, so the sacrifice is shared. Obviously I am dissatisfied with our lack of a truly progressive income tax as even if everyone paid the same rate, it would fall heavier on the poor because their discretionary income is so much less. However, at least you generally don’t pay taxes unless you have some wealth to be taxed.
I feel there should be no special treatment for the prize money of athletes. They are sharing in supporting our society based on their wealth and the prize money is part of that. There are many changes needed in our tax code to more evenly and fairly share the pain. Giving this special treatment is in the wrong direction, adding another special exemption that makes the tax code complicated. The athletes compete for their own purposes and it is a nice, but not obligatory, gesture to give them prize money. However, I do not feel they should get this tax exemption.
I look at the debate as necessary for society as a whole and maybe Bill did it as an obligation or duty for us. Its a weird feeling that in this day, with all our technology and understanding of the world that this could even be an issue. When Nye asked ken ham to consider the speed at which the continents are moving now and how long it took them to get where they are now. How fast would they need to travel to fit in the 6000 year window. Or trees and 1ce that are older than 6k.
For some reason I feel O’Reilly is gonna get ‘let go’ from FOX.
Thank you, John, for making the point that people leaving the workforce because Obamacare gives them the freedom to do so opens up opportunities for others, who actually want and need to work, to take those jobs. I’ve been screaming at my radio all day today on the road, trying to figure out why nobody was mentioning that.
I find it absolutely maddening that it’s a member of the legislative government that’s calling others lazy. After all the stories about how they work about a third of the year, after they’ve declared it their MISSION to ensure they do as little work as possible (so people unwittingly blame the government in general), they have the balls to complain about others not working that hard?
Go fuck yourself, Paul Ryan.
omg.. fuck these nutjobs… that’s just depressing… =_=
The problem with creationists is that they are showing loyalty to their group by adhering to the creation line. They really don’t care about the facts. They only will look at things that justify their point of view because they are committed to their own group. It is basically tribalism at work.
“Doubting Thomas” is the story in the bible where a man needs to be proven that Jesus was resurrected, rather than simply take everyone’s word for it.
The story’s moral was that that Thomas was a bad guy for being “unfaithful” enough to require evidence. In other words, the attendees on that side of the aisle who went to a “debate” probably saw it as a test- to see if they can be resilient enough to NOT learn anything.
I agree about the test. The attendees wanted to affirm their commitment to their group.
Love the new quick upload of the show, but I do get my video feed dropped more frequently.
I was just about to ask if anyone else was having the player constantly stop working. Every 3-7 minutes or so the video completely stops and then I have to fast forward back to where I was…
Same here. :(