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Talk about misbehaving kids and punishment now that Pro has begun to act up. Cenk sees spanking as inconceivable. Ana, Jesus, and Jayar talk about their upbringing and how they will approach it.
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I was terrified of my mother. She is certifiable, literally bipolar, hypocritical, so controlling and manipulative she has talked/cried her way OUT of over a dozen pull-overs, a dozen bank overdrafts, and who knows what else, and then cried/manipulated her way into a pain doc who gives her twice the max dose of Norco, when I had 100x worse health problems, starting at age 12, hospitalized 14 times, 8 spine surgeries, etc. for now 20 years, and have never been able to get any doctor willing to medicate me as much as I’d need to function in any capacity. She started getting back pain 5 years ago, almost age 50. No surgeries. She’s made four guys divorce her and 6 others left before she could trap them in a marriage. When I was under 10, she would use a solid maple wood paddle a little bigger than a ping-pong paddle and 4x as thick, about 3-4 pounds. She would beat my ass purple with that thing, and one memory I have is of me standing at the top of the stairs with her threatening me, adding more and more “spankings” as I was too afraid to come down. She also forced me to swallow dish soap, chew on bars of soap, etc. Nobody except my dad knows how insane she really is.
fysical punishment was banned in the 50 or 60 in my country thank god.Most people who has trouble later in life has rhose stories.it scars a child for lif and you should loose your right to be a parent if you do that.its a lacy way to raise children.no child should be afraid of their parent like Ana was,poor child.
When I was 7 I called my mom a bitch because she was being a bitch. The day before just for crying she pushed me against the wall and screamed at me. Nothing happened to my sister that was teasing me and made me cry. I just got fed up with her shit and I called her a bitch. I got in semi trouble for that. It was 24 hours no vid games but I forgot so I just had to take out the recycling. Now I call her a cunt sometimes. She hates that so much but she is a republicunt. She still worships that teabagging cunt of my sister that is sometimes on FOX “news” trying to get rid of Obamacare.
The pain hurt me a lot because I never knew what happened a lot of the times and was beaten up so badly. It was because of shit my sister did and they acted like I should have known. When I tried to defend myself it was a lot worse.
The Shaytards have 5 children and they would never hit their children. The closest thing that Mommytard got to hitting her children is PT. She was being a massive brat and not cleaning her room. Mommytard threatened to spank her. PT being the brat she was being at the time she just said even if you did it wouldn’t hurt. Mommytard just did a tiny tap on her butt. It was painless but PT ran to her room and cleaned it. It was just because she knew Mommytard meant business. Mommytard still feels horrible about it.
I played with fire once to burn my ID card when nobody was home when I was about 15. When I was Pros age I knew how to swim so water I was fine. I was also beaten up for my sisters shit so that’s why I didn’t care if I played with fire when I was 15. I just gave up on being a good kid for the most part when I was about 7. I remember being 4 and taking the sled down the slide in the snow. It was just because I was already extremely neglected.
The other thing people will say — they were beaten as kids “but it wasn’t abuse.” I think Cara said that. It IS abuse. Would you do that to another adult? No. Think how much more you weigh than a child. Think about the force behind your hand.
I feel so glad that you and Jayar are against beating your children. If either of you were in favor of it, I feel like MY heart would be broken. I remember when Cara (I’m not sure of her name) said she had been beaten with a strap when she was a kid and that’s why she was a good kid, I felt like I was about to vomit. I still feel angry at her. She is telling everyone who listened to her that it’s alright to treat children that way. I worked with kids who’d been physically and sexually abused for about 20 years. The damage it did was unfathomable. My own father beat us up often. He was terrifying. I found out decades later that as a kid, his father had broken his bones and even put lit cigarette butts out against his skin. And that wasn’t all that was done to him. I forgave him when I heard that. It still breaks my heart to think about his childhood.
Cara Santa Maria? She was brought up in a strict Mormon family, and left as soon as she was of age. I doubt that she was advocating physical discipline when speaking of her childhood, that sounds out of character for her.
It’s a little disturbing that all four of the TYT core staff suffered corporal punishment as kids. I grew up in Eastern Europe, and my parents never once hit me. Although one time I was being obnoxious, my dad took me back into my room for a one-on-one talk, and it was apparently so scary that I passed out. Like a little bitch! No wonder they never laid a hand on me…
A girlfriend of mine had the same treatment as Bart mentioned, they left her on the street alone when she was misbehaving, she waited patiently, didn’t cry, and they came back… she never pissed them off again.
I remember that episode ,she definitely did advocate using the belt. I was like , wtf!
What Cenk said at the end about raising kids is right about everything, which is what Buddha was trying to teach. Life is nothing but up and down even though he emphasized suffering he kept enforcing the idea that death which was nothingness was bliss because you wouldn’t suffer anymore. Nothing is good anymore but things are only good to us because they are not suffering. Life is always up and down it has to be everything at once, that’s why you never wish for your mission to be accomplished because when your job is done, you are dead.
http://smodcast.com/episodes/more-with-morrison/
When it comes to spanking I will leave this interview here. Where Kevin Smith talks to Grant Morrison about the history of Wonder Woman, who was created by the man who made the polygraph test and believed that women should be in charge of the world because some people need to be dominated because they are submissive and that’s what they like and women are nicer than men so it would work out better for everyone if the submissives were controlled by nice people.
I don’t think you should be afraid of your parents. Then when you mess up or make a big mistake, you are afraid to go to them for help and that just makes things worse.
Physical punishment of your kids is horrible. It just teaches them that if you are bigger and stronger than someone, it is OK to beat them. It’s the might makes right philosophy.
I received physical punishments as a child. I feel it accomplished two things: filling me with terror, and making me think my parents hated me.
Why no invite to be on Real Time with Bill Maher ????? are you guys beefing ?
I figured it was because Bill seems irrationally bigoted against Muslims.
As a long time watcher of Real Time I´ve noticed that the progressive panel members are almost exclusively non-confrontational and allow the conservative guests to make up facts and no one calls them out on it, Cenk would regulate so much with his knowledge that I think the producers of the show are scared that conservatives would not come to their show if they were made to look more foolish.
Bill and Cenk have similar views on Religion, that is definitely not the issue.
That whole subject is highly debated. Some people believe that kids at a young age can’t understand what you’re telling them, so you hit them (not with a belt or all your strength) because they understand that it hurts so it’s not good. Some may say it traumatizes them, but I’m sure others would come back by saying if you lock them in a room alone that’ll also traumatize them. And when they get older, time out won’t be worth shit. They’ll just chill in their room and play with their toys or phone or whatever. Then when they become even older like a teen or something, they’ll probably want to be alone and away from everyone else in the family. Sometimes at least.