Yes Cenk was sympathetic to the victim of the torture. But do you think that has something to do with the fact that the moviemakers made the torture seems vicious on purpose? I disagree with him entirely. Did they get CIA help on the movie? Yes. Is it sympathetic to America? Yes. But does it glorify torture? No, I don’t think so. Instead, it highlighted how cruel we were and shows it for being gritty and ineffective. All the scenes where information was actually revealed were in traditional interviews. That’s enough proof for me that it didn’t glorify the torture.
They actually don’t get any actionable intelligence when they torture even in Zero Dark Thirty, the movie clearly shows them torture and then for like 8 years after they don’t get Bin Laden and in fact it was only the main characters secretary that noticed the Bin Laden Courier was going by a different nickname they hadn’t realized.
When I finally saw Zero Dark Thirty I thought it was following the same horror movie set up as, “I Know What You Did Last Summer.” A group of people do somebody wrong, in this case it’s torturing people. Then an unknown force slowly kills the members of the group off as retribution for their guilt, in this movie it’s random terrorist attacks aimed at the CIA agents. I completely agree with Cenk. *spoilers* When the restaurant gets blown up, when the embassy has gunmen attack it but let the women in burkas leave and when the agents get blown up at the checkpoint I was cheering for the terrorists because the ended up being a strange force for good taking revenge on the CIA for the torture.
What pissed me off most about the movie were the obvious rewriting of history moments like anytime they had CIA agents afraid Obama was going to stop the program or when they said the program was over when we still have it today or when they say that Obama is against torture yet we still do it today. Zero Dark Thirty seems like it was only made so that the government could admit it tortured but then it white washes it by saying that Obama showed up and the torture stopped at the cost of our national security. When the truth is that the government is Ramsey Snow (Bolton).
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Yes Cenk was sympathetic to the victim of the torture. But do you think that has something to do with the fact that the moviemakers made the torture seems vicious on purpose? I disagree with him entirely. Did they get CIA help on the movie? Yes. Is it sympathetic to America? Yes. But does it glorify torture? No, I don’t think so. Instead, it highlighted how cruel we were and shows it for being gritty and ineffective. All the scenes where information was actually revealed were in traditional interviews. That’s enough proof for me that it didn’t glorify the torture.
Sometimes I like to freak myself out by reading the conservative viewpoint of things on townhall.com. Cenk was right, they consider the film a masterpiece, and only the ‘hollywood liberal elite’ kept it from getting a ‘much-deserved best picture’: http://townhall.com/columnists/debrajsaunders/2013/02/26/in-denial-over-zero-dark-thirty-n1520304/page/full
The reader comments are particularly interesting.
They actually don’t get any actionable intelligence when they torture even in Zero Dark Thirty, the movie clearly shows them torture and then for like 8 years after they don’t get Bin Laden and in fact it was only the main characters secretary that noticed the Bin Laden Courier was going by a different nickname they hadn’t realized.
Did he say “Obama’s courier” a little before 2:16?
You didn’t give me a shout out so I was wondering do you have to be a higher up member to get a shout out? I joined around July 4th.
I didn’t get one either. I think we will be okay. Lol I was a little mad at first.
When I finally saw Zero Dark Thirty I thought it was following the same horror movie set up as, “I Know What You Did Last Summer.” A group of people do somebody wrong, in this case it’s torturing people. Then an unknown force slowly kills the members of the group off as retribution for their guilt, in this movie it’s random terrorist attacks aimed at the CIA agents. I completely agree with Cenk. *spoilers* When the restaurant gets blown up, when the embassy has gunmen attack it but let the women in burkas leave and when the agents get blown up at the checkpoint I was cheering for the terrorists because the ended up being a strange force for good taking revenge on the CIA for the torture.
What pissed me off most about the movie were the obvious rewriting of history moments like anytime they had CIA agents afraid Obama was going to stop the program or when they said the program was over when we still have it today or when they say that Obama is against torture yet we still do it today. Zero Dark Thirty seems like it was only made so that the government could admit it tortured but then it white washes it by saying that Obama showed up and the torture stopped at the cost of our national security. When the truth is that the government is Ramsey Snow (Bolton).
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