I’m with Ben on dressing for the plane. It really annoys me to see people in pajamas and sweat pants and what not sitting around me. Do you go out to dinner that way? Do you go to meetings that way? Do you even go for a walk that way? No. I dunno – it’s about a certain level of respect for people around you really.
Ben, Dave Zirin has written extensively on the cost of these games for the regular person. I can’t imagine how Brazil could possibly afford so many in such a short space. Economically it will be catastrophic for poor people, but probably many more people will become poor as a result. Examples he’s mentioned for the Olympics — China spent $42 billion, Athens went over budget by 1000%, Montreal took 30 years to pay off debt. They always claim it will be paid for mostly by private enterprise, but always government pays most of the debt. Of course, they eliminate services. Police brutality is more horrible during games. Eminent domain destroys poor people’s housing. And on and on.
Love Benana hour, but you guys didn’t do your research!!
The “SEDUCTION” community, videos, books, sites and forums with MILLIONS of members is NOT a joke and it’s quite REAL. The birth process of the movement is chronicled in “The Game” by Neil Strauss.
I agree with Ben about the whole dressing a certain way and that rape culture thing. I always got shit from libs for saying there should be some sort of decision that falls on the person who gets raped for wearing really bad or proactive things to something like a frat party. It’s not really blaming the person who has been raped, but sometimes you have to step back and reevaluate your choices. If a person walks into a tiger cage wearing a meat suit, they blame the man for getting attacked. If a woman walks into a college party (where they say rapes happen quite often) wearing something very provocative and gets passed out drunk, then there’s she’s at absolutely no fault? And this comes from someone who has experienced forced sexual advances and has known many people who have been raped.
I do think it’s conceivable that the way one dresses can change her likelihood of being the victim of a sexual assault, but the blame for that assault still lies 100 percent with the perpetrator. You’re also more likely to be the victim of a mugging if you’re an elderly man than if you’re built like an MMA fighter, but it would never occur to anyone to blame the elderly man in any way for the mugging.
For starters, you can expect tigers to act like animals but you should expect human beings to act like human beings. This is what perpetuates the rape culture, the myth that men somehow can’t control themselves when a woman is dressed provocatively. That they are the “tiger,” an animal who can’t control himself in a certain situation and women are “meat,” objects that are the target of male desire and not much else. We should expect men to act like human beings and we should see women as human beings who deserve the right not to be violated. Rapists don’t rape because of how a woman is dressed, they rape because they want to rape. It doesn’t really matter what you are wearing as a woman, women get sexually harassed and assaulted in all manner of dress and levels of attractiveness. Many times rapists are just looking for an easy target so they rape any woman who is vulnerable even if it is a disabled or elderly woman. It’s not really about regular men who can’t control their sexual desire, it’s about rapists who commit acts of violence. This is why Ben is 100% wrong and 0% right about the TSA agent contributing to rape culture. We’re not saying that the TSA agent is in favor of rape, we’re saying that he is perpetuating the myth how a woman dresses somehow controls how men act and think. It IS very taliban-y because what is a woman supposed to do when even what that girl was wearing is judged by a pervy jackass? Wear a burqa? So that men don’t act like pervy jackasses? Women can’t control that. The only thing that controls how men act and think are the men themselves. When you ignore that fact, you are contributing to a culture which makes rape more acceptable. When part of the blame is placed on the victim instead of 100% on perpetrator, you are excusing the rapist for his crime. Well, what were you supposed to do when you were left alone with a drunk woman? She should have known better! This is the attitude which creates a rape culture. If a man goes out somewhere and gets drunk and he gets beaten up, we don’t immediately start questioning him, why did you go out by yourself? Why did you get drunk in a public place? Why were you out at night? You should have expected to be violently attacked! You are partly to blame for getting beaten up, of course someone would see you as an easy target for a violent attack.
I respect Ana so much for not wanting to talk about the Kardashian baby. I guess Ben thought they could make it interesting. They still didn’t. Hearing that it’s an absolute given that they’d talk about the baby is unbearable. “Look at their desperate plea for attention that totally worked because I am giving it to them.”
Benana, great show. If either of you ever read this, please consider this pet peeve of mine: let’s all just stop using the word “evolve” in the wrong way. To become less ignorant on a subject isn’t the same as evolving.
It’s already hard enough disagreeing with conservatives over evolution, don’t make me disagree with libs too. ;)
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I find it unbelievable that no one is talking about who the TYT person who smokes is.
Irina? Kim? Gina? Who could it be? Discuss.
I’m with Ben on dressing for the plane. It really annoys me to see people in pajamas and sweat pants and what not sitting around me. Do you go out to dinner that way? Do you go to meetings that way? Do you even go for a walk that way? No. I dunno – it’s about a certain level of respect for people around you really.
This may sound crazy, but maybe people prefer to dress comfortably when they’re stuck in a cramped seat for several hours.
Ben, Dave Zirin has written extensively on the cost of these games for the regular person. I can’t imagine how Brazil could possibly afford so many in such a short space. Economically it will be catastrophic for poor people, but probably many more people will become poor as a result. Examples he’s mentioned for the Olympics — China spent $42 billion, Athens went over budget by 1000%, Montreal took 30 years to pay off debt. They always claim it will be paid for mostly by private enterprise, but always government pays most of the debt. Of course, they eliminate services. Police brutality is more horrible during games. Eminent domain destroys poor people’s housing. And on and on.
Thank you kindly
Where is the intro? Wake up. I have not already said this!
Where is the intro?
Love Benana hour, but you guys didn’t do your research!!
The “SEDUCTION” community, videos, books, sites and forums with MILLIONS of members is NOT a joke and it’s quite REAL. The birth process of the movement is chronicled in “The Game” by Neil Strauss.
I agree with Ben about the whole dressing a certain way and that rape culture thing. I always got shit from libs for saying there should be some sort of decision that falls on the person who gets raped for wearing really bad or proactive things to something like a frat party. It’s not really blaming the person who has been raped, but sometimes you have to step back and reevaluate your choices. If a person walks into a tiger cage wearing a meat suit, they blame the man for getting attacked. If a woman walks into a college party (where they say rapes happen quite often) wearing something very provocative and gets passed out drunk, then there’s she’s at absolutely no fault? And this comes from someone who has experienced forced sexual advances and has known many people who have been raped.
You’re victim blaming however you qualify it.
I do think it’s conceivable that the way one dresses can change her likelihood of being the victim of a sexual assault, but the blame for that assault still lies 100 percent with the perpetrator. You’re also more likely to be the victim of a mugging if you’re an elderly man than if you’re built like an MMA fighter, but it would never occur to anyone to blame the elderly man in any way for the mugging.
For starters, you can expect tigers to act like animals but you should expect human beings to act like human beings. This is what perpetuates the rape culture, the myth that men somehow can’t control themselves when a woman is dressed provocatively. That they are the “tiger,” an animal who can’t control himself in a certain situation and women are “meat,” objects that are the target of male desire and not much else. We should expect men to act like human beings and we should see women as human beings who deserve the right not to be violated. Rapists don’t rape because of how a woman is dressed, they rape because they want to rape. It doesn’t really matter what you are wearing as a woman, women get sexually harassed and assaulted in all manner of dress and levels of attractiveness. Many times rapists are just looking for an easy target so they rape any woman who is vulnerable even if it is a disabled or elderly woman. It’s not really about regular men who can’t control their sexual desire, it’s about rapists who commit acts of violence. This is why Ben is 100% wrong and 0% right about the TSA agent contributing to rape culture. We’re not saying that the TSA agent is in favor of rape, we’re saying that he is perpetuating the myth how a woman dresses somehow controls how men act and think. It IS very taliban-y because what is a woman supposed to do when even what that girl was wearing is judged by a pervy jackass? Wear a burqa? So that men don’t act like pervy jackasses? Women can’t control that. The only thing that controls how men act and think are the men themselves. When you ignore that fact, you are contributing to a culture which makes rape more acceptable. When part of the blame is placed on the victim instead of 100% on perpetrator, you are excusing the rapist for his crime. Well, what were you supposed to do when you were left alone with a drunk woman? She should have known better! This is the attitude which creates a rape culture. If a man goes out somewhere and gets drunk and he gets beaten up, we don’t immediately start questioning him, why did you go out by yourself? Why did you get drunk in a public place? Why were you out at night? You should have expected to be violently attacked! You are partly to blame for getting beaten up, of course someone would see you as an easy target for a violent attack.
I respect Ana so much for not wanting to talk about the Kardashian baby. I guess Ben thought they could make it interesting. They still didn’t. Hearing that it’s an absolute given that they’d talk about the baby is unbearable. “Look at their desperate plea for attention that totally worked because I am giving it to them.”
This was a great show. Who doesn’t love the Benana hour?
Benana, great show. If either of you ever read this, please consider this pet peeve of mine: let’s all just stop using the word “evolve” in the wrong way. To become less ignorant on a subject isn’t the same as evolving.
It’s already hard enough disagreeing with conservatives over evolution, don’t make me disagree with libs too. ;)
Totally agree re “evolve”