TYT 1.8.13 Hour 1

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Kimani’s quote of the day: “A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything.” ~Malcolm X

How many members here also follow Alex Jones? Please comment and elaborate if you do. What is the allure? What has your experience in his audience been like?

Hour 1
Segment 1
Cenk hosting today. A military judge has been concluded that Bradley Manning has been illegally punished. The judge will apply his time served to whatever time he eventually gets. Alex Jones’ hilarious appearance on Piers Morgan where he ranted and raved about the 2nd Amendment. He also put out a video after the interview talking about how Bloomberg’s off-duty police officers were casing him. Video of Michael Savage’s radio appearance where he advocated for a new Nationalist Party.

Segment 2
The incredibly unpopular Congress is at 9%. Cenk goes over the many disliked things that are still more popular than Congress. Next up is the unfavorability of the Tea Party and their lack of influence over the past year. Approval ratings for Obama & Boehner in handling the fiscal cliff negotiations. Boehner came out as the loser. Boehner bragged that even though they had no leverage, that they got 99% of the Bush Tax Cuts extended. Video of Sen McConnell declaring that the tax issue is over and its time for them to tackle spending.

Segment 3
AIG, the company that the American people bailed out, is now considering being part of a lawsuit that is suing the government for $25 billion b/c of the terms of the bailout.

Comments

  1. I think Alex Jones is pretty out there, but I appreciate the fact that he’s pretty independent and seems to really believe what he says and stand for it. I get a sense of sadness when I think of how effective he’d be if he didn’t have all that paranoia that seems almost pathological.

    I enjoy his documentaries on 9/11 even though I’m not a truther–they at least point out that as a country we really didn’t ask many questions about the event itself and our consequent disastrous policy actions.

  2. Alex Jones used to appear on Austin’s KLBJ FM** during the morning drive time once a week. Those guys take a comedy cruise each year and they were trying to get him to come one year for a Comedy & Conspiracy Cruise. Alex said he wouldn’t participate because he didn’t want to spend _that_ much time with _his_ listeners.

    **KLBJ AM has a one hour digest of Alex’s show every weekend. Or at least, they used to.

  3. Alex Jones is crazy, but Pierce Morgan is a phone hacking, photo faking, journalist harassing bastard. But no one in the US seems to know that, he was in Britain far too long, you guys can keep him.

  4. I don’t watch Alex Jones. I think Piers Morgan was talking so low to try and subconsiously suggest to Alex Jones that he didn’t need to talk so loud. Have you ever done that? Someone will be sitting right next to you and shouting at you so you talk back quietly to try to emulate the volume the conversation needs to be at for someone who is sitting right next to you! Anyway, it totally failed for poor Piers Morgan.

  5. Alex Jones is the best nut we’ve ever had. He’s the crazy conspiracy theorist people like me need, even if we don’t deserve him.

  6. Alex Jones had Noam Chomsky on his show once, and railed against him as a corporate shill.

    Actually, he was super polite to Chomsky’s face, then when he signed off the show, Jones started ranting against him. Real courage to rant against a college professor in his ’80s behind his back.

    In Jones’ world, 98% of people everywhere are corporate shills. One wonders how the evil giant conspiracy keeps all their shills organized and acting in coordination.

  7. Alex Jones is a psycho, in the immortal words of Mr. Slave: “Jesus Christ”. It seems Alex Jones has no manners, the heck is wrong with him. Btw could he come on TYT and debate Bain on gun violence? I really want to see if he could be liberated of his very limited remaining sanity. Actually no, I don’t want you guys to get shot for my amusement, so better not.

  8. I, like many, watched and enjoyed the Obama Deception. That was around the 08 elections when I was a sophomore in high school and me pretending to be a conservative/republican/libertarian was a knee-jerk response to all the popular kids supporting Obama.

    Then I found out that Republicans are at least 10 times worse than the Democratic party and have kept my finger on the pulse of the issues ever since.

  9. Alex Jones was really my first intro into the police state. I watched his documentaries right after the 08 elections. It was my first time being able to vote and I thought I was helping by voting for Obama. After watching Jones I realized that a lot of what I was told growing up was a bunch of propaganda. I knew things were not right with our political system. I started to understand that Obama was not the answer. Jones “The Obama Deception” was pretty interesting and made me think. It helped me open my mind and think outside of the box…However it didn’t take long for me to realize how depressing and one sided Alex Jones was. EVERYTHING is a conspiracy with that guy. I must admit that I hold one or two conspiracy theories close at heart but Alex Jones really takes the cake. Right around the Health Care Debate I found TYT. I couldn’t take Jone’s rantings and screaming any longer and youtube had a bunch of TYT clips on the sidebar so I just started watching and then I got hooked and broke down and became a member….And I never looked back. So in a way if it wasn’t for Alex Jones, I’m not sure if I would have ever turned to TYT. Hahaha….

  10. I’m glad that he it was determined that he was illegally punished. Maybe if we’re lucky, he’ll see the outside of prison some day. That being said, I think he needs to be released right now. Fuck punishment, he didn’t get the speedy trial he is guaranteed. God damn, I fucking love Alex Jones. He’s one of the funniest people I’ve ever seen. I think it’d be hysterical if Alex Jones truly was the real conspiracy. I loved the popularity of Congress bit.

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    How many members here also follow Alex Jones? Please comment and elaborate if you do. What is the allure? What has your experience in his audience been like?

    1. Don’t follow Alex Jones much at all, but I think his appeal is that because he is so consistently anti-government and anti-big business, he’s bound to hit points that many, inlcuding me, agree with.

      It’s kind of the “broken clock is right twice a day” theory, except Jones is randomly yelling out what time it is. :p

      I also imagine he’s popular for the same reason TYT is; he’s not part of the mainstream bullshit machine. And that’s worth something.

      I disagree with TYT alot of times, but at least I trust you to say what you mean, not what someone else wants you to say.

      1. That’s a problem, it’s oversimplification of nuanced issues, and it’s a wrong-headed version of critical thinking.

        I have a cousin who’s a large Alex Jones kind of guy. We’re technically on the same side on a lot of issues, but I can’t talk with him without him spewing out complete black-and-white answers to complicated problems. While I’ve (through TYT and other sources, like Matt Taibbi and Glenn Greenwald) can spout of off hundreds of factoids about the banking industry, the media, and the growing military state, he’ll just answer things with a large JamesBondian secret society of villains.

        I get the human nature aspect to desire to put a “face” to issues, but I think he’s too busy stockpiling weapons and canned food for a hollywood-like military state rather than actually seeing the problems. He barely knew anything about campaign finance laws, for example.

    2. Greek Alex Jones story. First of all we here in Greece were “fortunate” enough to have Max Keiser appear on some very established news shows on 2011. His line of thought seemed to make some kind of sense at the time, after all he was blogging for the Huffington Post, but then came the Alex Jones show. Alex Jones baptized our occupy movement the revolt against the world bankers and Max Keiser was a LIVE guest from Athens on Syntagma square, yelling through the windows of his extremely expensive hotel room. Our occupy movement’s outrage was actually because of Europe’s memorandum mainly, because it has an article on us not having absolute control of our resources and it is based on English trading law. Other factors that made us revolt were the dramatic decrease in salaries, cutbacks on our insurance system, regressive taxation, sale of public companies etc… But we as people had no idea how the world banking system related to us… They weren’t 100% wrong but they shoved their words to our mouths. Here is the video
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G1Y-w1yUyM&list=PL0EE0708303763C91&index=7

      it’s very complicated and I would need to make a video to explain the whole thing… but you get the drift…

    3. not really….he’s correct on about 30% of what he says, from what I can tell. His presentation is problematic. Most of his audience can’t tell the BS from the dead on stuff…”suicide pills” isn’t a good way to describe the over prescription of neuro-pills, but he’s right about this, as an example of a subject I thinks he’s correct on.

    4. I watch him everyday, I use it as background music for playing Civ V. I dont actually believe what he is saying, but he is sincere and honest which makes him better than 98% of the media

    5. Alex Jones had people literally running for their lives during Y2K. I’m not sure why he wasn’t as disgraced as the man who predicted the rapture, but eh..

      Two things, one, though I’m not exactly a part of their group, I respect the “Zeitgeist movement”, a group of futurists looking forward to planning a moneyless society, recognizing it as the literal root of all evil. That’s all they are, is futurists, philosophizing a different type of society. When the “leader” of the group went on Alex Jones to talk about his views, he was instantly accused of being part of some secret society that’s been plotting to force the world into a communist state, or something like that. Peter Joseph (founder of the movement) was pretty stunned, just saying he came on to have an intelligent discussion about his ideals, but Alex Jones wouldn’t have it, and just kept throwing crazy accusations at him, saying stuff like… his organization’s names, mixed up, resembled secret society codes, or something like that.

      Secondly. Why would people create these huge conspiracies? They do almost everything out in the open, since the mainstream media prevents the majority of Americans from learning about things via information osmosis. I mean, why would Bush have done 9/11, when an insanely simple false-flag conspiracy like Gulf of Tonkin scenario threw us into a devastating war for years?

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