TYT 11.2.12 Hour 1

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Hour 1
Segment 1
Cenk, Michael Shure, and John Iadarola hosting. Jobs numbers are promising from October, but unemployment is up to 7.9%. Shure predicts that Obama will win big on Tuesday, 313-215. Video of Chris Matthews going after climate change deniers by calling them pigs. Michael thinks that Matthews is getting sick of how he’s labeled by Republicans. The Five on Fox are trying to link the gas station lines after Sandy to Obama. They consistently called it “Jimmy Carter-esque.”

Segment 2
Climate Change ad that features Romney making fun of Obama’s pledge to stop the rise of the oceans. A pro-Republican PAC’s ad trying to convince Black Americans that the Republican Party is in favor of them over the Democratic Party. Video of Todd Akin’s ad featuring two women that claim to support him b/c of he’s a great guy. Michael Moore and MoveOn’s ad featuring elderly people cussing about Republicans trying to steal the election.

Comments

  1. You young guys missed the rewriting of history by Fox News. The gas crisis of 1973 was under Nixon, not Carter. I remember it well.
    –Jim Herlihy

    1. Thanks for posting that youtube link, dgreer. It’s long but offers a pretty comprehensive discussion of the back and forth in the discussion. Plus it gives boat loads of evidence.

  2. Anyone thought John was making a pokemon reference in the story on the ad Romney and climate change. “It’s super effective!”

  3. Surprises me that everyone expects Obama to lose Colorado and possibly win Florida instead: check the numbers from 2008, they won’t tread far off (they’ll be worse, not suddenly much worse or better). Obama won Colorado in 2008 by 8.5 pts, and Florida by 2.5 pts. I’d say shave off 3-5 pts and you have your totals for 2012: he wins Colorado with 2-3 pts and loses Florida with 1-2.

  4. It took me a bit of work to figure out how Michael was getting 323, but I see: Obama loses Colorado, but wins Florida. Nate Silver is showing that the reverse is more likely, so I’ll disagree with him there just on the statistics. I think the simple fact that there’s a governor in Florida whose already tried to throw hundreds of thousands of voters off the rolls this year will affect how the state swings. Colorado has marijuana on the ballot this year, full legalization. I have a lot of hope that younger voters will be drawn to vote by it, and thus Obama will maintain a win there, although obviously less than he did in 2008. I would repeat that we should be very glad that Florida doesn’t hold the key to this election no matter what: with this map Obama will win even if he loses Colorado AND Florida. Romney is toast.

  5. I’ll put my own prediction here for posterity: I suspect Florida will go to Romney (there’s funny business going on down there with ballots and I think they’re going to pull another 2000 election). Luckily, it won’t matter this time around: it’s Ohio that will be the deciding state and it is almost guaranteed to go to Obama this time. Colorado will also remain Obama. He will, however, be losing Indiana for sure and likely N.C. compared to 2008, so it won’t be the blow-out of that election.

    Final tally: 303 electoral votes to Obama, 235 to Romney. Obama wins a strong electoral victory, but I believe his popular vote will be weaker than before: maybe 51% but likely just above 50% (where he belongs, since his 4 years have been tepid at best). An interesting prediction though: I think Ohio might actually go harder for Obama this year than in 2008, a reflection of the fact that in this region (my own, actually) he did a lot of good, saving the auto industry. The fact that my home state of Indiana isn’t going to him because of that astounds me: apparently they don’t realize that Romney would have been perfectly content to let the industry collapse, taking with it thousands of jobs in our state.

  6. Awesome show. The electoral college conversation was very informative. Loved the Chris Matthews/Dillan Ratigan piece. Thank you TYT.

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